:::But we're getting kinda off-topic here, talking about the see-also's on some other article. This section is about the [[WP:MOVE|article move]] without [[WP:CONS|consensus]], for which I raised some objections at the top, along with some search engine counts. I wonder if you could respond to those points? Or, putting it another way: why did you rename the article? [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 03:12, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
:::But we're getting kinda off-topic here, talking about the see-also's on some other article. This section is about the [[WP:MOVE|article move]] without [[WP:CONS|consensus]], for which I raised some objections at the top, along with some search engine counts. I wonder if you could respond to those points? Or, putting it another way: why did you rename the article? [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 03:12, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
::{{replyto|Castncoot}} To repeat, since you didn't respond to my point: '''[[Template:Transgender_sidebar|This is the trans sidebar]]'''. I'm bolding the link not to shout but to bring your attention to it. If you click on the bolded link, you'll see that the sidebar shows an image of the transgender flag and a list of links, including the Trans Day of Remembrance and Trans Day of Visibility (under the "Society and Culture" section heading). The large symbol you've repeatedly inserted on this article does not appear, and I do not see any other trans sidebar template in the [[:Category:LGBT_templates|relevant category]]. So I don't understand what other "trans sidebar" you are referring to. [[User:Funcrunch|Funcrunch]] ([[User talk:Funcrunch|talk]]) 03:17, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
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As written, this makes it appear as if the Rita Hester vigil was the original enactment of a Day of Remembrance, which it was not. It was a local community event. In 1999, Gwen Smith called for an annual remembrance event on the anniversary of the Rita Hester murder. Nancy N (talk) 16:22, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the extensive GLAAD coverage. This falls under the no self-promotion rule. There is no reason why GLAAD's communications regarding TDoR should be highlighted here when innumerable LGBT organizations around the world observe the day annually in similar ways. 69.250.207.88 (talk) 00:29, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The article was renamed from "Transgender Day of Remembrance" to "International Transgender Day of Remembrance" on July 10, here, by a single user without any discussion or claim of consensus.
There are approximately nine times as many google exact-phrase results for the former (223,000) as the later (25,100). If you limit it to results only in the last 12 months, the ratio is 10,300::763; and last 24 months: 16,400::1,250. Among institutions using the shorter name are GLAAD, HRC, The Advocate, Transgender Law Center, Lambda Legal, and NCTE.
It may well be that this is the direction that the reality or the name of this memorial is moving, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a leading indicator; we should follow the preponderance of the sources, and at the moment, this move does not seem justified. It should be reverted. Mathglot (talk) 07:13, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed; I don't understand why this change was made. The day may be observed internationally but "International" is not normally in the title. I also feel the other recent changes made the layout of the article look worse, but as restoring a photo I took myself to a more prominent place might seem self-serving, I'll leave that to other editors to decide. Funcrunch (talk) 14:59, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If it was moved for reasons of parallelism that would be a false consistency, since the usage of the terms in reliable sources would each independently determine their respective common name, as they are two different topics.
I noted the other changes in format and was troubled by those as well. The format changes can more easily be handled by a BRD cycle of which someone already supplied the 'B', so I'll supply the 'R' and let's see if it gets Discussed here. Mathglot (talk) 02:20, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I hope that we will get some discussion regarding this page move. Such discussion should keep in mind the policy on article titles, in particular the part about common name, as well as the list of reasons for moving a page from the how-to guide. If there's no discussion after a reasonable interval, I'll figure out how to get an uninvolved admin to move it back. Mathglot (talk) 03:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Castncoot: Respectfully, I think you're mistaken or confused. First of all, Mathglot was arguing specifically against using parallelism as an argument to move the page title (especially without getting consensus first), and I agree with him. Second of all, the trans sidebar is this template. It has the trans flag, not a symbol. Funcrunch (talk) 06:00, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not confused at all. If you look carefully, this article refers to the other in its See also section, but this article is not being allowed into the other article's See also section. These two days of observance fall under the same sidebar and should be speaking with one Wikivoice. For whatever reason, this other editor is preventing that from happening. Castncoot (talk) 02:24, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)HiCastncoot, thanks for joining in. Just to clarify: I'm arguing neither in favor nor against consistency in article naming, I'm arguing that consistency is irrelevant here. What I'm saying is that guidelines on article titles including WP:COMMONNAME govern what the title of this article (and every article) should be, based on the preponderance of usage in reliable sources in English and on other naming criteria. If there were a naming convention for LGBT organizations we might consider that as well, but there isn't one. So parallelism and consistency are irrelevant to questions of proper article naming in this case. The only governing principles to be considered here are those mentioned at WP:AT and associated guidelines. Hope that makes my position clearer. Mathglot (talk) 02:41, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
But we're getting kinda off-topic here, talking about the see-also's on some other article. This section is about the article move without consensus, for which I raised some objections at the top, along with some search engine counts. I wonder if you could respond to those points? Or, putting it another way: why did you rename the article? Mathglot (talk) 03:12, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Castncoot: To repeat, since you didn't respond to my point: This is the trans sidebar. I'm bolding the link not to shout but to bring your attention to it. If you click on the bolded link, you'll see that the sidebar shows an image of the transgender flag and a list of links, including the Trans Day of Remembrance and Trans Day of Visibility (under the "Society and Culture" section heading). The large symbol you've repeatedly inserted on this article does not appear, and I do not see any other trans sidebar template in the relevant category. So I don't understand what other "trans sidebar" you are referring to. Funcrunch (talk) 03:17, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
