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I don't see what you mean by "they don't overlap". Obviously, every single person of [[template|Current U.S. Cabinet]] ("CUSC") is in [[Template:Obama cabinet]]; just as, last year, every person in CUSC was in [[Template:GW Bush cabinet]]. I also don't see your point about finding the current cabinet. Finding the CUSC template is no easier than finding [[Template:Obama cabinet]], which is already in every article that contains CUSC. Regarding your case of someone who doesn't know who the POTUS is: For such a reader, a mere name such as "Chu" will be much less helpful than the name and office which [[Template:Obama cabinet]] provides. In conclusion, I am not aware of any case in which CUSC would provide any benefit. — [[User:SebastianHelm|Sebastian]] 07:28, 26 January 2009 (UTC) |
I don't see what you mean by "they don't overlap". Obviously, every single person of [[template|Current U.S. Cabinet]] ("CUSC") is in [[Template:Obama cabinet]]; just as, last year, every person in CUSC was in [[Template:GW Bush cabinet]]. I also don't see your point about finding the current cabinet. Finding the CUSC template is no easier than finding [[Template:Obama cabinet]], which is already in every article that contains CUSC. Regarding your case of someone who doesn't know who the POTUS is: For such a reader, a mere name such as "Chu" will be much less helpful than the name and office which [[Template:Obama cabinet]] provides. In conclusion, I am not aware of any case in which CUSC would provide any benefit. — [[User:SebastianHelm|Sebastian]] 07:28, 26 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Why is Dubya listed as a member of the Cabinet? It's HIS cabinet... POTUS isn't a cabinet-level officer, he's the head dude! Removed. —MicahBrwn (talk) 07:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What's the difference between a "cabinet-level" cabinet position and someone who isn't a cabinet-level, but is in the Cabinet? MicahBrwn (talk) 20:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is a big overlap (at current 100% of the listed people) between this template and the specific current U.S. cabinet template (which is currently Template:Obama cabinet). At first glance, it appears that this template would always only duplicate information that is already in the specific template. The practice to keep both on articles however is not new, as can be seen here. Therequiembellishere argued at Template talk:Obama personnel, Cabinet-level child-template#Proposal in favor of keeping both: "The purpose of Template:Current U.S. Cabinet is transparent. It cuts straight through to show who are incumbent cabinet officials [...]". There may, however, be simpler ways to achieve that without having to add and maintain a whole different template. (One off the cuff idea would be adding "until 200x" to non-current members.) — Sebastian 02:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is, they don't overlap. As shocking as it may seem, not everyone in the world automatically knows who the current POTUS is. If they want to find the current cabinet, this template allows them to find them all without having to blunder around looking for Template:Obama Cabinet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Therequiembellishere (talk • contribs)
I don't see what you mean by "they don't overlap". Obviously, every single person of Current U.S. Cabinet ("CUSC") is in Template:Obama cabinet; just as, last year, every person in CUSC was in Template:GW Bush cabinet. I also don't see your point about finding the current cabinet. Finding the CUSC template is no easier than finding Template:Obama cabinet, which is already in every article that contains CUSC. Regarding your case of someone who doesn't know who the POTUS is: For such a reader, a mere name such as "Chu" will be much less helpful than the name and office which Template:Obama cabinet provides. In conclusion, I am not aware of any case in which CUSC would provide any benefit. — Sebastian 07:28, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]