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[[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 December 19#Template:Islamophobia]] - result: no consensus. |
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== Removal of media organizations == |
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== add Reclaim Australia == |
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Australia has a noteworthy number of far right anti-islam hate groups, would it be reasonable to add some of them to the list? these four in particular: |
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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reclaim_Australia |
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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_Society_of_Australia |
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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Blue_Crew |
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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Patriots_Front |
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Any thoughts? |
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[[User:Bacondrum|Bacondrum]] ([[User talk:Bacondrum|talk]]) 01:12, 21 February 2018 (UTC) |
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:Four extra Australian organisations might be undue weight on the template - that would bring the number of Australian groups to five out of 18. ([[Australian Defence League is already listed.) With the [[Q Society]] it seems inappropriate, and the template there should be removed - the only Islamophobia mentioned in the article is from a guest speaker a a meeting. [[True Blue Crew]] is called "anti-Islam" in the article, but there is no reference to it being "Islamophobic". '''Disclosure''': I came here after discussions with [[User:Bacondrum]] at [[Talk:Reclaim_Australia]]. [[User:StAnselm|<b>St</b>]][[Special:Contributions/StAnselm|Anselm]] ([[User talk:StAnselm|talk]]) 03:09, 21 February 2018 (UTC) |
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[[User:StAnselm]] If they are Islamophobic then they are Islamophobic, how many of them there are is irrelevant. How is being Anti-Islam any different to being Islamophobic? To be honest I don't trust your intentions, not one little bit. I came here to ask pretty much anyone but you Saint, not to be hounded by your determined efforts to present the far-right in a positive light. I'm sure others here can make their own observations and judgements without you trying to manipulate the presentation of anti-Islam groups. |
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[[User:Bacondrum|Bacondrum]] ([[User talk:Bacondrum|talk]]) 04:57, 21 February 2018 (UTC) |
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Q-Society is Islamophobic in the extreme: https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/inside-the-far-right-q-society-explosive-dinner-where-muslims-are-fair-game-20170210-gu9xo8.html You can't be serious "it seems inappropriate". |
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[[User:Bacondrum|Bacondrum]] ([[User talk:Bacondrum|talk]]) 05:04, 21 February 2018 (UTC) |
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== add Reclaim Australia == |
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Hi {{u|Thismess}}, your recent edit [[Special:Diff/1184227836]] (which I reverted in [[Special:Diff/1190199519]]) removed all media organizations from this template. Your edit was accompanied by your removal of this template from a number of articles about anti-Muslim websites listed in this template, including the following edits: |
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So, I just want to ask again. |
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* [[Special:Diff/1184228528]]: Removal of template from [[Document.no]] article |
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Australia has a noteworthy number of far right anti-islam hate groups, would it be reasonable to add some of them to the list? these four in particular: |
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* [[Special:Diff/1185635572]]: Removal of template from ''[[FrontPage Magazine]]'' article |
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* [[Special:Diff/1185983678]]: Removal of template from [[Jihad Watch]] article |
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While your edit summary in [[Special:Diff/1184227836]] claims that your edits are supported by consensus, it is unclear which discussions that claim is based on. The corresponding template for [[antisemitism]], [[Template:Antisemitism sidebar]], has the sections "Antisemitic publications" and "Antisemitism on the Internet" which contain lists of antisemitic media outlets that are much more comprehensive than the "Media" section of this template is for anti-Muslim websites, so there is clearly no consensus to remove all media organizations from all templates related to discrimination. I have reverted all of the removals per [[WP:BRD]] pending discussion. — '''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 07:49, 19 December 2023 (UTC) |
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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reclaim_Australia |
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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_Society_of_Australia |
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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Blue_Crew |
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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Patriots_Front |
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:I have encountered problems with Thismess's removal's of categories in the past, to do with islamophobia in instances where Thismess has claimed (in edit summaries) that the articles in question don't support the categories. Simple googles searches and the addition of sourced material have indicated that the articles do support said categories. I have thought about leaving warnings on Thismess's page in relation to this but I couldn't be bothered. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 10:51, 6 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Any thoughts?{{ping|Meticulo}}{{ping|Darouet}}{{Ping|Moxy}} |
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::{{bcc|TarnishedPath}}In the spirit of [[WP:BRD]], it would make sense to leave a message on the talk page of the article when these removals are reverted. This provides a record of the reversion that is more easily accessible than the article history, and lets other editors get a better understanding of what the consensus is should the removals be made or proposed again. — '''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 02:17, 7 January 2024 (UTC) |
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[[User:Bacondrum|Bacondrum]] ([[User talk:Bacondrum|talk]]) 00:10, 23 February 2018 (UTC) |
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:::I will do so in future. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 02:29, 7 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 December 19#Template:Islamophobia - result: no consensus.
HiThismess, your recent edit Special:Diff/1184227836 (which I reverted in Special:Diff/1190199519) removed all media organizations from this template. Your edit was accompanied by your removal of this template from a number of articles about anti-Muslim websites listed in this template, including the following edits:
While your edit summary in Special:Diff/1184227836 claims that your edits are supported by consensus, it is unclear which discussions that claim is based on. The corresponding template for antisemitism, Template:Antisemitism sidebar, has the sections "Antisemitic publications" and "Antisemitism on the Internet" which contain lists of antisemitic media outlets that are much more comprehensive than the "Media" section of this template is for anti-Muslim websites, so there is clearly no consensus to remove all media organizations from all templates related to discrimination. I have reverted all of the removals per WP:BRD pending discussion. — Newslinger talk 07:49, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
