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!Cyrillic¹

!Cyrillic¹

|А||Б||style="color:red"|В|| ||Г||Д||Е||Ё|| ||Ж||З|| ||И||Й||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѳ|| || ||К||Л||М||style="color:red"|Н||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѯ||О||П||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ҁ||style="color:red"|Р||style="color:red"|С||Т||У|| || || ||Ф||style="color:red"|Х||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѱ||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѡ||Ц||Ч||Ш||Щ||Ъ||Ы||Ь||Э||Ю||Я

|А||Б||style="color:red"|В|| ||Г||Д||Е||Ё|| ||Ж||З||style="color:skyblue;|Һ||И||Й||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѳ||style="color:skyblue;|І||style="color:skyblue;|Ј||К||Л||М||style="color:red"|Н||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѯ||О||П||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ҁ||style="color:red"|Р||style="color:red"|С||Т||У|| ||style="color:skyblue;|Ԝ||style="color:skyblue;|Ү||Ф||style="color:red"|Х||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѱ||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѡ||Ц||Ч||Ш||Щ||Ъ||Ы||Ь||Э||Ю||Я

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!Greek²

!Greek²

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!Cyrillic¹

|А||Б||style="background:lightyellow;color:red"|В|| ||Г||Д||Е||Ё||Ж||З|| ||style="background:lightyellow;"|И||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѳ||style="background:lightyellow;"|Й||К||Л||М||style="color:red"|Н||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѯ||О||П||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ҁ||style="color:red"|Р||style="color:red"|С||Т||У|| || ||style="background:lightyellow;"|Ф||style="color:red"|Х||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѱ||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѡ||Ц||Ч||Ш||Щ||Ъ||Ы||Ь||Э||Ю||Я

|А||Б||style="background:lightyellow;color:red"|В|| ||Г||Д||Е||Ё||Ж||З||style="color:skyblue;|Һ||style="background:lightyellow;"|И||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѳ||style="background:lightyellow;"|Й||К||Л||М||style="color:red"|Н||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѯ||О||П||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ҁ||style="color:red"|Р||style="color:red"|С||Т||У||style="color:skyblue;|Ԝ||style="color:skyblue;|Ү||style="background:lightyellow;"|Ф||style="color:red"|Х||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѱ||style="color:lightgreen;"|Ѡ||Ц||Ч||Ш||Щ||Ъ||Ы||Ь||Э||Ю||Я

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:¹) 33 character Russian alphabet; historical cyrillic characters added that match with Greek

:¹) 33 character Russian alphabet; historical and non-Russian cyrillic characters added that match with Greek or Latin

:²) 24 character Greek alphabet; historical characters added that match with Cyrillic and Latin

:²) 24 character Greek alphabet; historical characters added that match with Cyrillic or Latin

:³) 26 character Basic Latin alphabet; re-ordered to match with Greek and Cyrillic

:³) 26 character Basic Latin alphabet; re-ordered to match with Greek and Cyrillic



Color coding:

Color coding:



* <span style="color:lightgreen;">Obsolete character (for comparison)</span>

* <span style="color:lightgreen;">Obsolete character</span> (for comparison)

* <span style="color:skyblue;">Non-Russian cyrillic character</span> (for comparision)

* <span style="color:red;">False friends</span>, i.e. glyphs are often similar to that of unrelated characters

* <span style="color:red;">False friends</span>, i.e. glyphs are often similar to that of unrelated characters




Revision as of 05:25, 22 November 2022

Common glyphs of three alphabets (including false friends, of course)

Some thoughts about File:Venn diagram gr la ru.svg

Above diagram only matches glyph shapes, but not how the characters match functionally. To draw a Venn diagram that shows which characters the alphabets have in common, there needs to be an agreement first, which characters match. While it is obvious for certain characters, it is more vague for others.

Matching Cyrillic and Greek characters is pretty straightforward (except for У/Υ – should the match or not?):

Cyrillic (ru) А Б В Г Д Е Ё Ж З И Й К Л М Н О П Р С Т У Ф Х Ц Ч Ш Щ Ъ Ы Ь Э Ю Я
Greek Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ Η Θ Ι Κ Λ Μ Ν Ξ Ο Π Ρ Σ Τ Υ Φ Χ Ψ Ω

With Latin characters added, it becomes more complicated, as there are several ways to match them with Greek and Cyrillic:

Cyrillic¹ А Б В Г Д Е Ё Ж З Һ И Й Ѳ І Ј К Л М Н Ѯ О П Ҁ Р С Т У Ԝ Ү Ф Х Ѱ Ѡ Ц Ч Ш Щ Ъ Ы Ь Э Ю Я
Greek² Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ϝ Ζ Η Θ Ι Κ Λ Μ Ν Ξ Ο Π Ϙ Ρ Σ Τ Υ Φ Χ Ψ Ω
Latin³ A B C G D E F Z H I J K L M N X O P Q R S T U V W Y

Alternatives:

Cyrillic¹ А Б В Г Д Е Ё Ж З Һ И Ѳ Й К Л М Н Ѯ О П Ҁ Р С Т У Ԝ Ү Ф Х Ѱ Ѡ Ц Ч Ш Щ Ъ Ы Ь Э Ю Я
Greek² Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ Η Θ Ι Κ Λ Μ Ν Ξ Ο Π Ϙ Ρ Σ Τ Υ Φ Χ Ψ Ω
Latin³ A B V C G D E Z H I J K L M N X O P Q R S T U W Y F
¹) 33 character Russian alphabet; historical and non-Russian cyrillic characters added that match with Greek or Latin
²) 24 character Greek alphabet; historical characters added that match with Cyrillic or Latin
³) 26 character Basic Latin alphabet; re-ordered to match with Greek and Cyrillic

Color coding:


Latin transliteration systems (for comparision):

Cyrillic (ru) А Б В Г Д Е Ё Ж З И Й К Л М Н О П Р С Т У Ф Х Ц Ч Ш Щ Ъ Ы Ь Э Ю Я
Greek Α Β Γ Δ Ε Ζ Η Θ Ι Κ Λ Μ Ν Ξ Ο Π Ρ Σ Τ Υ Φ Χ Ψ Ω
ISO 9 A B V G D E Ë Ž Z I J K L M N O P R S T U F H C Č Š Ŝ ʺ Y ʹ È Û Â
ISO 843 A V G D E Z Ī TH I K L M N X O P R S T Y F CH PS Ō
Russian morse A B W G D E V Z I J K L M N O P R S T U F H C Ö CH Q Ñ Y X É Ü Ä
Greek morse A B G D E Z H C I K L M N X O P R S T Y F CH Q W

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