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Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Elizabeth Holmes, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. I meant to post that comment in the two places that it was relevant. Your edit summary of clean up/fix is an insufficient explanation of why you would remove another editor's comment on a discussion, even if duplicated elsewhere.Peaceray (talk) 04:58, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Peaceray - I am sorry if what I did was out of place. I have no objection to your comments or the reversion you made. My only thought was that you were trying to add a "vote and a comment" to the RFC, and that the RFC is now broken into two sections - the upper part for "vote and a comment"'s and the lower part for general comments. Indeed, it seemed the paragraph you wrote was in a place where it seemed to be responding to the comments just above (pertaining to definition of "fraudster"), whereas it seemed to me you wanted to add your "vote and comment" to the RFC. The list for those is just above the second section labeled "Discussions"; note the bullets. Please do what you think is best to represent your views...but I will just add you have not formally added your "vote and a comment" to the RFC (IMO). Cheers, Bdushaw (talk) 21:49, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, this term has come up again, this time at Talk:Sam Bankman-Fried. Same exact issue, first sentence of the lead section. It's gone on for too long, I don't see any option but another RfC. I was wondering if we might just copy-paste the wording you used for the Holmes RfC. It would be plagiarism, so I wanted to ask your permission. Unless you had another suggestion? -- GreenC01:53, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi GreenC, Sure you can use the same wording - I tried pretty hard to frame it as neutral as possible. "Other suggestions?" I had thought for the SBF article, the EH RfC would be directly applicable, no RfC required. Indeed, I myself eventually removed the "fraudster" word from the SBF article soon after the RfC closed. It seems odd to repeat the same RfC; anyone having a look at it would conclude that another RfC would be pointless. I tried to get some general language developed for the "Biographies of living persons" guidance, but after 6 weeks of trying (and general agreement that it was an important general problem) I was mostly just abused for my efforts. Wikipedia_talk:Biographies_of_living_persons/Archive_53 I agree with you that there is a quite similar pattern to such discussions - both our RfC, the discussion on the Biographies page, and now the SBF article. Not to open old wounds, but I almost replied to one of your later comments that the label was "going to far". We overly discussed the issue, but I thought the label, in that case, was mostly just misleading or not accurate. The issue of labels for biographies is a challenging one - I see the article for Adolf Hitler starts out by labeling him a politician, rather than a mass murderer. After one starts to notice such labels, some of them start to seem quite odd indeed (and don't get me started on the "Lists"). Best regards, Bdushaw (talk) 11:52, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I beg pardon...I was confusing SBF with "Ramesh "Sunny" Balwani". The EH RfC certainly applies to RSB. I would have to think more about SBF and the word "fraudster". Could it not be argued that he did indeed deliberately set out to defraud people, a la Madoff? SBF and fraudster seem less clear. Bdushaw (talk) 13:41, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The word fraud appears 6 times in the lead section. The question is the wording of the first sentence, since he committed multiple crimes including money laundering and conspiracy. The first sentence needs to be high-level so we simply say "felon" or "criminal" which captures all the crimes, then go into more details further down the lead section in chronological order. -- GreenC15:51, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I recently became involved in another phrasing dispute about the phrase "War on Fox", concerning Media Matters for America. This organization had a media watchdog campaign during 2011-2013, with the aim of encouraging advertisers away from Fox News, for example, by issuing fact-checking reports that undermine Fox's credibility of being 'fair and balanced'. It's reached the point of an RfC, as you can see on the talk page, which has the diffs and background. The question, are there any essays, guidelines or policies that might be relevant to this problem of emotive and out of context quotes, not in a BLP context? -- GreenC20:42, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Jeepers! I can't offer any help, knowing not much about such things. I am just a guy who likes things to be written well... Your question might be better addressed to Wikipedia's Village Pump? Best of luck! Bdushaw (talk) 22:45, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This comes comes down to whether NPOV requires that we use the language that sources use, and it does not; it requires us to include the information that sources include, but we are free - and typically encouraged - to use our own language, particularly if the words used by the sources are charged.
Hi. You recently made a number of changes to Neutron that are probably correct but are not backed by references. These kinds of changes make the article more difficult to verify. Johnjbarton (talk) 14:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am away on travel just now and away from my sources, alas. As I mentioned on the talk page, I will embark on a concerted effort to support as much material as I can by citations, but that will be a lengthy process! (Also as I've mentioned before the kind of basic-level statements are difficult to source properly...but citations needed!) Bdushaw (talk) 14:54, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]