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User talk:Djsasso

I posted a request for a change just over 3 months ago. The request can be found here. Thanks. — Hucz ^{(talk · contribs)} 04:04, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Took me forever to figure out what you were talking about. But I made the change. -Djsasso (talk) 04:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I was wondering if you could move Wheatley-Southpoint SharkstoWheatley Sharks. They dropped the Southpoint from their name this year and it is already a redirect. I would really appreciate the help. :) DMighton (talk) 06:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. -Djsasso (talk) 13:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More fun... could you restore this picture: File:Hamilton Red Wings.png? I asked the admin who deleted it, but he hasn't responded in at least three days. It was deleted due to a bad edit by an anon that I didn't notice until after the image was already deleted. DMighton (talk) 02:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. -Djsasso (talk) 02:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, your bot has been granted a bot flag at nlwiki. --Erwin(85) 09:53, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Does Mickey Renaud qualify for an article now that there is an OHL award named after him? Catauro (talk) 05:33, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gut reaction would say no. The award itself is notable but he isn't. However I will put this quetion to a wider audience at WT:HOCKEY. -Djsasso (talk) 13:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry man, I thought maybe cuz its like an "international draft" that the accents should be there. Guess not. Thanks for the info, I will stop putting that stuff in now. My bad again.

Bort08 5:07 PM, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Wow, I feel dumb. I guess I only wish I was here two years ago now. Spinach Monster (talk) 14:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

LOL no I just thought it was funny. You can still bring the topic up. Consensus can change. -Djsasso (talk) 14:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why did your SassoBot remove the ru: link from Yuri, that I added manually? --GRuban (talk) 16:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because the english page is a disambiguation page and the russian one is not, or atleast its not marked as one. If it truely is one it needs to be marked as one or bots will continue to remove it. -Djsasso (talk) 16:13, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That seems like a bug in the bot algorithm, then. The RU page is a page about the name, Yuri; it gives a few sentences about the name, then a list of notable Yuris. The EN page is a page that gives a list of notable Yuris. They seem like a match; among other things, you'll note the RU page gives the EN page as equivalent English language link. --GRuban (talk) 17:13, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Basically the bots look for the disambiguation tag. I am not sure what it is on the russian wiki. I will have to go look. -Djsasso (talk) 17:24, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the interwikis for this article are a mess. The problem is that on some wiki's articles about names are different from disambiguation pages about names. So there are alot of wikis that have two interwikis linking to same article which causes havoc. I am going to manually try to clean up this instance. -Djsasso (talk) 17:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - it's appreciated! --GRuban (talk) 19:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You mentioned you had some "histories" of the Canadiens franchise in one of the discussions at WP:HOCKEY today. I was wondering if you could take a look at the history timeline I have on my sandbox and let me know if I am missing any major or interesting points in Canadiens history? I'd like to begin work re-writing that article soon, especially given the relatively poor condition of it to start in the hopes that we can get it on the main page for December 09. thanks! Resolute 00:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look and see if I see anything, just got a brand new Canadiens book for x-mas that I haven't read yet, maybe this will give me an excuse. Its been awhile since I was a "fanatic" of the Canadiens, sort of got swept up in the flames after living there for 9 years. But now that I am on the east coast I will probably see more Canadiens games on TV than flames games so will end up reverting back. -Djsasso (talk) 02:31, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cool thanks... traitor.  ;) Resolute 05:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you redirect Mickey Renaud to this page as discussed in WT: HOCKEY, or perhaps tell me how to do this? Thanks Catauro (talk) 09:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there! Please disable this bot of yours, it removes interwiki links from certain articles (e.g. surnames). Watch your bot, please, and happy editing! KNewman (talk) 07:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. It did [1] when en:Brouwer and de:Brouwer, es:Brouwer, fr:Brouwer, nl:Brouwer and even ja:ブローウェル are very similar pages --Rumping (talk) 01:39, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please add a short summary of whatyour bot is doing, so you'll see it immediately when clicking its talk link. CapnZapp (talk) 19:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As things stand, I still don't know why it removed the fr: link from the The Tortoise and the Hare page. CapnZapp (talk) 19:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It removed it because the page on the french wikipedia is a disambiguation page. And non-disambiguation pages should not interwiki with disambiguation pages. -Djsasso (talk) 19:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why? This seems like a rule that does more harm than good. --GRuban (talk) 01:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please take this rule out now. I have just made ten reverts where your policy is clearly damaging interwiki links.[2] --Rumping (talk) 01:59, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't put the rule in so its not my policy, its in the standard interwiki bot code. I can ask the developers to remove it. Oh and it would be nice if you would remain civil and not shout at me by bolding. -Djsasso (talk) 02:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for stopping the bot while the issue is considered. My apologies for the bold; your bot was repeatedly doing something unhelpful, five days after this issue was raised here. I was trying to attract your attention. --Rumping (talk) 08:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Djsasso,

I noticed that your bot removed several interwiki links from pages whose corresponding article is a disambiguation page (e.g. Brulion/pl:Brulion,^[3] Bruni, Texas/nl:Bruni,^[4] Bruno Arcari/it:Bruno Arcari^[5]). In these examples, the articles corresponding to the ones in English still exist—they just have been moved. Your bot should update these interwiki links accordingly instead of removing them. Thanks, Korg (talk) 02:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the plan was to go through them when my run was done and check the list and if they exist as another name to put the proper link in. You just beat me to them. As far as I know the standard interwiki code isn't smart enough to do it automatically. -Djsasso (talk) 02:59, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That being said I don't think I will remove links anymore, people get too upset too easily about it. -Djsasso (talk) 03:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I tried looking in the code for interwiki.py to see where it deals with disambiguation pages. This link takes you to the code, and then there is a routine called disambigMismatch. It has this comment:

skip is True iff the pages have mismatching statuses and the bot is either in autonomous mode, or the user chose not to use the given page.

If skip is true, it will not remove the links. This makes it sound like it expects the operator to make a human decision when the disambiguation status is different. Perhaps because it is too messy for the bot to decide automatically. The bot operator is just supposed to work around the issue as best they can :-) EdJohnston (talk) 03:41, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't usually let my bot remove links so its not really something I ran into until recently. I don't think I will bother doing it unless I am in manual mode. Too much clean up to do when I get up in the morning now. Thanks for taking a look though! -Djsasso (talk) 03:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This attitude is unhelpful. If you receive complaints, please turn off your bot even if you aren't convinced you and your bot that might be at fault. In fact, if people get upset, chances are you have missed something rather than you being accosted by a group of people whose tendency to get easily upset is statistically improbable.

Again, could you add an immediately visible explanation of your bot and its actions, as well as a emergency shutdown button? Both to be shown directly after clicking the bot link from the pages where it has taken action.

Regards, CapnZapp (talk) 10:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The emergency shut down button that you see on bots is usually just a graphically pretty link to the block button. Its explanation of what its doing is in its edit summary. As far as the statistic improbability, I don't think so. Statistically on a wiki people often get upset before they calmly talk about the situation. So no, I do think I am correct in saying they got upset too easily. -Djsasso (talk) 11:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey DJ. Could you move The Lamoriello TrophytoLamoriello Trophy over the redirect? The article isn't necessary in the title. Thanks! – Nurmsook! ^talk... 15:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done -Djsasso (talk) 15:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your bot now have a bot flag on sr-wiki --Јованвб (talk) 20:37, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]