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::::P.S. Some letters in this archive were entertaining. Page 99. Roginski: ''"The only thing I am absolutely sure about is that there was no any Kremlin's conspiracy against OF in this story"''. And he is writing this in a letter to the guy who ''is'' a Kremlin's [[agent of influence]] and did everything he could to discredit OF. This is classic. As [[Stanislav Lunev]] said, "the best spy will be everyone's best friend, not a shadowy figure in the corner." [[User:My very best wishes|My very best wishes]] ([[User talk:My very best wishes|talk]]) 17:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
::::P.S. Some letters in this archive were entertaining. Page 99. Roginski: ''"The only thing I am absolutely sure about is that there was no any Kremlin's conspiracy against OF in this story"''. And he is writing this in a letter to the guy who ''is'' a Kremlin's [[agent of influence]] and did everything he could to discredit OF. This is classic. As [[Stanislav Lunev]] said, "the best spy will be everyone's best friend, not a shadowy figure in the corner." [[User:My very best wishes|My very best wishes]] ([[User talk:My very best wishes|talk]]) 17:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::To be clear, I do not know why this book was not published in Russia, even after looking at this archive. This can be only a guess. If anyone on the "top" in Russia did not like the book (yes, it is offensive for typical former KGB people who rule Russia) and wanted to have it cancelled, they had a lot of ways, through the Dynasty, publishers, reviewers, etc. I can only say, based on the letters and publications, that the Dynasty had no intention to make a quality translation, and Cohen was "on the mission", but this could be just his personal bias, who knows. [[User:My very best wishes|My very best wishes]] ([[User talk:My very best wishes|talk]]) 18:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
::::To be clear, I do not know why this book was not published in Russia, even after looking at this archive. This can be only a guess. If anyone on the "top" in Russia did not like the book (yes, it is offensive for typical former KGB people who rule Russia) and wanted to have it cancelled, they had a lot of ways, through the Dynasty, publishers, reviewers, etc. I can only say, based on the letters and publications, that the Dynasty had no intention to make a quality translation, and Cohen was "on the mission", but this could be just his personal bias, who knows. [[User:My very best wishes|My very best wishes]] ([[User talk:My very best wishes|talk]]) 18:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::I can see what you mean. I don't know anything about Cohen, but it certainly looks from his WP page like he becomes a Kremlin propaganda flack at some point. I don't know if that had already begun at the time of this correspondence or not - the examples on his page start at around 2014 (maybe around the invasion of Crimea?). Fundamentally, I can easily tell myself two stories about the Whisperers publication in Russia: |
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:::::1. Whisperers is good work that faithfully reflects the experience of Soviet citizens crushed under Stalinism, that is scurrilously scuppered by the publishers under Kremlin influence, who hate the project. The difficulty here is Memorial's apparent bona fide role in the cancellation, but maybe the fact check was really the exclusive work of Ostrovskaya, and Figes is correct that she hates him, or maybe Ostrovskaya is even a Kremlin plant for this purpose. |
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:::::2. Whisperers is shoddy work, that falsifies or distorts the stories of individual victims of Stalinism, that the publisher and Memorial cancel because they know that such a book will come under heavy scrutiny in Russia, and they would be dangerously politically exposed if they are careless with this history. |
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:::::I think either story could be consistent with the contents of the archive, but there's no way that you or I could or should make that judgement on wikipedia. [[User:Samuelshraga|Samuelshraga]] ([[User talk:Samuelshraga#top|talk]]) 19:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
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The discussion on the talk page has entered the tl;dr territory. I made already as a diligent work as I could (I am not an expert on this) and explained my edits. So whatever. I would rather do something else. Happy editing, My very best wishes (talk) 21:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]