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Non-notable footballer who fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Argyle 4 Life^talk 11:51, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Argyle 4 Life^talk 11:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom, fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 12:29, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Really? None-notable? He was in the news quite a lot recently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShadowTerror10 (talk • contribs)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 23:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.78.226.138 (talk) 20:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think Notable Been often linked to many of the best teams, playing for the Brazil youth teams. He will obviously be a star so why delete the article and have to re-do it in the future, pointless.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamietullett (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 10:03, 1 July 2011 (UTC).[reply]

• "He will obviously be a star" is WP:CRYSTAL. A few years ago a guy called Jamie Richards was linked to a whole host of top clubs, including Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur, and he received the same sort of tabloid coverage. Should he get an article based on that? Of course not. Argyle 4 Life^talk 14:52, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notable I would argue that he passes WP:GNG due to extent of coverage in mainstream press in UK, Brazil and elsewhere. WP:Footy expressly allows youth players that meet wider WP:GNG criteria. Deserter1 (talk) 13:33, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• WP:ROUTINE coverage like this doesn't make someone notable. What is achieved in their youth doesn't make them notable and neither does being compared to someone else by journalists who has actually played at a fully professional level. Argyle 4 Life^talk 14:52, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are non-routine examples too:[1],[2],[3]. Being called "one of Brazil's best young footballers" in a national broadsheet is surely notable? Deserter1 (talk) 15:03, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I agree that the sources used in the article are ROUTINE, but the sources shown by Deserter1 are significant and reliable which allows this article to pass GNG. Oonissie (talk) 17:44, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]