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The article was '''not promoted''' by [[User:SandyGeorgia|SandyGeorgia]] 18:13, 6 September 2009 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=312222095]. |
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===[[No Line on the Horizon]]=== |
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:<small>''Nominator(s): [[User:MelicansMatkin|MelicansMatkin]] <small>([[User talk:MelicansMatkin|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/MelicansMatkin|contributions]])</small> 16:35, 13 August 2009 (UTC)''</small> |
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::Hmm, looking at it again, it still doesn't look right. Maybe if Promotion was split into a seperate section from Release? That way Release would include the release date, the cover art, and the format, while Promotion would include the brief appearances on TV and radio, and the tour. [[User:MelicansMatkin|MelicansMatkin]] <small>([[User talk:MelicansMatkin|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/MelicansMatkin|contributions]])</small> 17:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC) |
::Hmm, looking at it again, it still doesn't look right. Maybe if Promotion was split into a seperate section from Release? That way Release would include the release date, the cover art, and the format, while Promotion would include the brief appearances on TV and radio, and the tour. [[User:MelicansMatkin|MelicansMatkin]] <small>([[User talk:MelicansMatkin|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/MelicansMatkin|contributions]])</small> 17:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I agree it looks a bit odd as is, and I'd be fine with either your solution or just getting rid of the section header for the tour and making it the third paragraph of the promotion section. There's not a whole lot there, after all, and according to the article, the tour is entirely based around promoting the album. But since I'm fine with either solution, I'll go ahead and '''Support'''. Good work! [[User:TUF-KAT|Tuf-Kat]] ([[User talk:TUF-KAT|talk]]) 00:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC) |
:::I agree it looks a bit odd as is, and I'd be fine with either your solution or just getting rid of the section header for the tour and making it the third paragraph of the promotion section. There's not a whole lot there, after all, and according to the article, the tour is entirely based around promoting the album. But since I'm fine with either solution, I'll go ahead and '''Support'''. Good work! [[User:TUF-KAT|Tuf-Kat]] ([[User talk:TUF-KAT|talk]]) 00:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC) |
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:::: Please have TUF-KAT return and address the outstanding reliable sources issues above vis-a-vis this support. [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy< |
:::: Please have TUF-KAT return and address the outstanding reliable sources issues above vis-a-vis this support. [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy<span style="color:green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 23:45, 21 August 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::[[User:Dabomb87|Dabomb87]] has contacted Tuf-Kat; I've left messages on [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] talk page twice since my last reply on 16 August ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AEaldgyth&diff=308526097&oldid=308506538] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AEaldgyth&diff=308927042&oldid=308925678]), but the user has not yet returned to see if their concerns have been addressed. [[User:MelicansMatkin|MelicansMatkin]] <small>([[User talk:MelicansMatkin|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/MelicansMatkin|contributions]])</small> 00:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC) |
:::::[[User:Dabomb87|Dabomb87]] has contacted Tuf-Kat, and I have sent them an email; I've left messages on [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] talk page twice since my last reply on 16 August ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AEaldgyth&diff=308526097&oldid=308506538] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AEaldgyth&diff=308927042&oldid=308925678]), but the user has not yet returned to see if their concerns have been addressed. [[User:MelicansMatkin|MelicansMatkin]] <small>([[User talk:MelicansMatkin|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/MelicansMatkin|contributions]])</small> 00:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC) |
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::::I've tried the split, and I think it looks a bit better. Cheers! [[User:MelicansMatkin|MelicansMatkin]] <small>([[User talk:MelicansMatkin|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/MelicansMatkin|contributions]])</small> 02:52, 17 August 2009 (UTC) |
::::I've tried the split, and I think it looks a bit better. Cheers! [[User:MelicansMatkin|MelicansMatkin]] <small>([[User talk:MelicansMatkin|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/MelicansMatkin|contributions]])</small> 02:52, 17 August 2009 (UTC) |
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::: I think Mojo should be considered reliable. The nominator has mentioned its a "big" reputed magazine in the UK, as the Rolling Stone is in the US. They print the physical magazine, and additionally have an online version. The print version carries a CD every month. Bands like [[U2]] and [[Red Hot Chili Peppers]] have compiled CD content in the past ([http://www.amazon.com/Red-Hot-Chili-Peppers-Jukebox/dp/B0015GZOHC link] [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:abfexzy5ld0e link] [http://www.discogs.com/Various-Red-Hot-Chili-Peppers-Jukebox/release/373693 link]) Additionally, if you scrolldown on the MOJO website, you'll know it's owned by "Bauer Media" ([http://cover.mojo4music.com/Default.aspx?year=1993 example]). There's an "About" page on their website [http://www.bauermedia.co.uk/about here];『...is a division of the Bauer Publishing Group, Europe’s largest privately owned publishing Group. The Bauer Publishing Group is a worldwide media empire offering over 230 magazines in 15 countries, as well as online, TV and radio stations.』I'd say notable! Also, here's more; the magazine had a radio station (which was shut down some time ago, and had many listeners) [http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/nov/05/bauer-digital-radio link]; "...The station is one of the most high-profile digital radio closures to date..." provides notability. Will that do? [[User:Suede67|Suede67]] ([[User talk:Suede67|talk]]) 15:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC) |
::: I think Mojo should be considered reliable. The nominator has mentioned its a "big" reputed magazine in the UK, as the Rolling Stone is in the US. They print the physical magazine, and additionally have an online version. The print version carries a CD every month. Bands like [[U2]] and [[Red Hot Chili Peppers]] have compiled CD content in the past ([http://www.amazon.com/Red-Hot-Chili-Peppers-Jukebox/dp/B0015GZOHC link] [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:abfexzy5ld0e link] [http://www.discogs.com/Various-Red-Hot-Chili-Peppers-Jukebox/release/373693 link]) Additionally, if you scrolldown on the MOJO website, you'll know it's owned by "Bauer Media" ([http://cover.mojo4music.com/Default.aspx?year=1993 example]). There's an "About" page on their website [http://www.bauermedia.co.uk/about here];『...is a division of the Bauer Publishing Group, Europe’s largest privately owned publishing Group. The Bauer Publishing Group is a worldwide media empire offering over 230 magazines in 15 countries, as well as online, TV and radio stations.』I'd say notable! Also, here's more; the magazine had a radio station (which was shut down some time ago, and had many listeners) [http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/nov/05/bauer-digital-radio link]; "...The station is one of the most high-profile digital radio closures to date..." provides notability. Will that do? [[User:Suede67|Suede67]] ([[User talk:Suede67|talk]]) 15:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Consequence of Sound reference replaced by ''The Times'' (good catch Suede67), all but one U2Gigs reference replaced (to the best of my ability) by ones for the French Radio and TV shows, ''Rolling Stone'', and the BBC. Two of the Mojo references have been changed, but the exclusive interviews (thus the only source for the information) have been kept, though I still feel Mojo in general is a reliable source. [[User:MelicansMatkin|MelicansMatkin]] <small>([[User talk:MelicansMatkin|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/MelicansMatkin|contributions]])</small> 15:42, 23 August 2009 (UTC) |
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'''Comment''': MelicansMatkin just took care of the refs using U2gigs as a source. I have struck it out above (also CoS as it has also been replaced). [[User:Suede67|Suede67]] ([[User talk:Suede67|talk]]) 16:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC) <small>Should only be struck out by the original commenter. [[User:MelicansMatkin|MelicansMatkin]] <small>([[User talk:MelicansMatkin|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/MelicansMatkin|contributions]])</small> 17:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC)</small><small>Oh, sorry. </small>[[User:Suede67|Suede67]] ([[User talk:Suede67|talk]]) 17:47, 23 August 2009 (UTC) |
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'''Note''': I will not have internet access beginning 3 September 2009 as I am moving into a new apartment for the forthcoming school year. Since I won't be able to respond to any queries or concerns that arise within the next week or so (hopefully less), I would appreciate any editor responding to them in the interim. Cheers, [[User:MelicansMatkin|MelicansMatkin]] <small>([[User talk:MelicansMatkin|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/MelicansMatkin|contributions]])</small> 01:31, 2 September 2009 (UTC) |
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*I don't think there's a strong enough rationale for the inclusion of [[:File:U2NoLineRecording.jpg]]. The only real commentary in the article is about how it was a makeshift, open air recording environment, but you can't even tell that from the above shot. It's eye candy. {{doing}} |
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*[[:File:U2nloth.ogg]] and [[:File:U2whiteassnow.ogg]] need more than just boilerplate rationales; ''why'' do these clips significantly increase understanding in compliance with NFCC? ''How much'' has the quality been decreased from the source? Just ''how much'' of the song has been used? |
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::I added more specific rationales and detailed summary, do you find it satisfactory now? [[User:Suede67|Suede67]] ([[User talk:Suede67|talk]]) 09:03, 6 September 2009 (UTC) |
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*Other images are free or have proper information and rationales. |
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--[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup> (<small>[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#993300;">talk</span>]]</small>)</sup> 18:09, 5 September 2009 (UTC) |
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The article was not promotedbySandyGeorgia 18:13, 6 September 2009 [1].
I am nominating No Line on the Horizon for featured article because I believe it meets all of the current FA criteria. A lot of work has been put into this article and I think that shows in the present result. It's been copyedited several times by other users and undergone a peer review which is now archived; all of the concerns raised by the PR, the GA review, and other users have, I believe, been addressed. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 16:35, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Alt text is done; thanks. Alt text is present (thanks) but has some problems.
Eubulides (talk) 06:02, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1. User Axver from U2Gigs has said, plus showed the guidelines of how content makes their website. Personally, I think that is fine.
2. About the site "ConsequenceofSound being reliable, here is the link to the "about us" page; About Most sources that have covered it are notable and reliable, which in turn should make CoS reliable(?) If not, this source, which has the same content cited, can be used. Will it be fine? this one
3. Mojo seems reputed. It also has an article on wiki, which can be found here.
I personally feel this is enough, what do the reviewers think? Suede67 (talk) 14:20, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: MelicansMatkin just took care of the refs using U2gigs as a source. I have struck it out above (also CoS as it has also been replaced). Suede67 (talk) 16:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC) Should only be struck out by the original commenter. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 17:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC)Oh, sorry. Suede67 (talk) 17:47, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I will not have internet access beginning 3 September 2009 as I am moving into a new apartment for the forthcoming school year. Since I won't be able to respond to any queries or concerns that arise within the next week or so (hopefully less), I would appreciate any editor responding to them in the interim. Cheers, MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 01:31, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
--Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 18:09, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]