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1 Statement of the dispute  
1 comment  


1.1  Description  





1.2  Evidence of disputed behavior  





1.3  Applicable policies and guidelines  





1.4  Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute  





1.5  Users certifying the basis for this dispute  





1.6  Other users who endorse this summary  







2 Response  





3 Outside view  





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''Users should only edit one summary or view, other than to endorse.''

''Users should only edit one summary or view, other than to endorse.''

==Statement of the dispute==

==Statement of the dispute==

In brief, this user has been on a campaign of what can only be called bullying, for the past few months (since July). [[User:Byrgenwulf]] nominated an article on a "[[Wikipedia:Fringe theories|fringe theory]]" for deletion, and [[User:Asmodeus]] took exception to that. [[User:Byrgenwulf]] has written an account of the ensuing events, which he keeps [[User:Byrgenwulf/CTMU_saga|here]]. [[User:Byrgenwulf]] believes that because he has over 60 references to back up what he wrote, his right to keep these notes falls under [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Iloveminun#Keeping_notes this ArbCom finding]. Asmodeus, however, feels differently, as evidenced by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Byrgenwulf&diff=prev&oldid=78438519] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anville&diff=prev&oldid=78873075] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anville&diff=prev&oldid=80037183]. In particular, he has been harassing [[User:Anville]], trying to bully them into not linking to the document. It is up to the Wikipedia community, however, and not any single individual, to decide whether Asmodeus' ongoing bullying is something we need to tolerate. Hence this RfC.

''This is a summary written by users who dispute this user's conduct. Users signing other sections ("Response" or "Outside views") should not edit the "Statement of the dispute" section.''



=== Description ===

=== Description ===

The most comprehensive description of Asmodeus' conduct can be found [[User:Byrgenwulf/CTMU_saga|here]]. However, because that document is rather long, I shall summarise. Asmodeus has been personally attacking myself and others for months, and it needs to stop. Particularly worrying is the manipulative and deceitful manner in which he conducts himself. No doubt this very RfC is going to be rapidly filled with his polysyllabic screeds, attacking and lying about me and anyone who disagrees with him (but in such a way as though butter wouldn't melt in his mouth).

''{Add summary here, but you must use the section below to certify or endorse it. Users who edit or endorse this summary should not edit the other summaries, other than to endorse them.}''


In short, there is strong evidence that he and another editor have been using Wikipedia as a [[WP:SOAP|soapbox]] to [[shill]] for various things (IQ clubs, fringe theories, etc.). When confronted or challenged about this, they respond by attacking the user who has questioned them, and trying their utmost to discredit that person by means of distortion, deception, misinformation, and sometimes even lies, all wrapped up in sarcasm and passing verbosity. Asmodeus' entire userpage reads like a personal attack on the members of WikiProject Pseudoscience and WikiProject Physics.


Asmodeus' most recent activities have been disrupting the [[Wikipedia:Fringe theories]] policy proposal, and using schoolyard bully tactics to try to suppress [[User:Byrgenwulf/CTMU_saga|the record of his activities]]. This is a final straw, and what has motivated this RfC.



=== Evidence of disputed behavior ===

=== Evidence of disputed behavior ===

* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hillman&diff=prev&oldid=66729350]

(Provide diffs. Links to entire articles aren't helpful unless the editor created the entire article. Edit histories also aren't helpful as they change as new edits are performed.)

* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cognitive-Theoretic_Model_of_the_Universe&diff=63997689&oldid=63997115] (note the edit summary)

:#

* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anville&diff=prev&oldid=78881841] (edit summary, again)

:#

* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cognitive-Theoretic_Model_of_the_Universe&diff=prev&oldid=64193237]


Asmodeus has been blocked before for incivility, but the block seems to have done nothing to abate his behaviour.


Asmodeus also, as looking at his contributions list reveals, has editing only articles (and AfDs, talkpages, etc.) pertaining to his favourite theory, its inventor, its inventor's IQ clubs, and has caused disruption on the [[Wikipedia:Fringe theories]] policy proposal.


Read the document linked to above, and find over 60 references and a description of the full extent of the bad behaviour of this user.



=== Applicable policies and guidelines ===

=== Applicable policies and guidelines ===

:# [[WP:NPA]]

{list the policies and guidelines that apply to the disputed conduct}

:# [[WP:HARASS]]

:#

:# [[WP:CIVILITY]]

:#

:# [[WP:SOAP]]

and possibly

:# [[WP:VAIN]] (read the document)



=== Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute ===

=== Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute ===

:# [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAsmodeus&diff=69290054&oldid=68698082] by {{Userblock|Byrgenwulf}} &mdash; a request for civility

(provide diffs and links)

:# [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAnville&diff=78878508&oldid=78876961] by {{Userblock|Anville}} &mdash; an attempt at compromise

:#

:#



=== Users certifying the basis for this dispute ===

=== Users certifying the basis for this dispute ===

''{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}''

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:# [[User:Byrgenwulf|Byrgenwulf]] 16:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

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Revision as of 16:59, 7 October 2006

In order to remain listed at Wikipedia:Requests for comment, at least two people need to show that they tried to resolve a dispute with this user and have failed. This must involve the same dispute with a single user, not different disputes or multiple users. The persons complaining must provide evidence of their efforts, and each of them must certify it by signing this page with ~~~~. If this does not happen within 48 hours of the creation of this dispute page (which was: 16:56, 7 October 2006 (UTC)), the page will be deleted. The current date and time is: 00:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC).



Users should only edit one summary or view, other than to endorse.

Statement of the dispute

In brief, this user has been on a campaign of what can only be called bullying, for the past few months (since July). User:Byrgenwulf nominated an article on a "fringe theory" for deletion, and User:Asmodeus took exception to that. User:Byrgenwulf has written an account of the ensuing events, which he keeps here. User:Byrgenwulf believes that because he has over 60 references to back up what he wrote, his right to keep these notes falls under this ArbCom finding. Asmodeus, however, feels differently, as evidenced by [1] [2] [3]. In particular, he has been harassing User:Anville, trying to bully them into not linking to the document. It is up to the Wikipedia community, however, and not any single individual, to decide whether Asmodeus' ongoing bullying is something we need to tolerate. Hence this RfC.

Description

The most comprehensive description of Asmodeus' conduct can be found here. However, because that document is rather long, I shall summarise. Asmodeus has been personally attacking myself and others for months, and it needs to stop. Particularly worrying is the manipulative and deceitful manner in which he conducts himself. No doubt this very RfC is going to be rapidly filled with his polysyllabic screeds, attacking and lying about me and anyone who disagrees with him (but in such a way as though butter wouldn't melt in his mouth).

In short, there is strong evidence that he and another editor have been using Wikipedia as a soapboxtoshill for various things (IQ clubs, fringe theories, etc.). When confronted or challenged about this, they respond by attacking the user who has questioned them, and trying their utmost to discredit that person by means of distortion, deception, misinformation, and sometimes even lies, all wrapped up in sarcasm and passing verbosity. Asmodeus' entire userpage reads like a personal attack on the members of WikiProject Pseudoscience and WikiProject Physics.

Asmodeus' most recent activities have been disrupting the Wikipedia:Fringe theories policy proposal, and using schoolyard bully tactics to try to suppress the record of his activities. This is a final straw, and what has motivated this RfC.

Evidence of disputed behavior

Asmodeus has been blocked before for incivility, but the block seems to have done nothing to abate his behaviour.

Asmodeus also, as looking at his contributions list reveals, has editing only articles (and AfDs, talkpages, etc.) pertaining to his favourite theory, its inventor, its inventor's IQ clubs, and has caused disruption on the Wikipedia:Fringe theories policy proposal.

Read the document linked to above, and find over 60 references and a description of the full extent of the bad behaviour of this user.

Applicable policies and guidelines

  1. WP:NPA
  2. WP:HARASS
  3. WP:CIVILITY
  4. WP:SOAP

and possibly

  1. WP:VAIN (read the document)

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

  1. [8]byByrgenwulf (talk · contribs · block log) — a request for civility
  2. [9]byAnville (talk · contribs · block log) — an attempt at compromise

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

  1. Byrgenwulf 16:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other users who endorse this summary

Response

This is a summary written by the user whose conduct is disputed, or by other users who think that the dispute is unjustified and that the above summary is biased or incomplete. Users signing other sections ("Statement of the dispute" and "Outside Views") should not edit the "Response" section.

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Users who endorse this summary:

Outside view

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Discussion

All signed comments and talk not related to an endorsement should be directed to this page's discussion page. Discussion should not be added below. Discussion should be posted on the talk page. Threaded replies to another user's vote, endorsement, evidence, response, or comment should be posted to the talk page. has ongoing problems with incivility and bullying 16:56, 7 October 2006 (UTC)


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