(This isn’t a complaint or proposal, just a question). Nothing about the privileges granted as a page mover seem like they would be particularly hard to undo, and the revoking criteria are very liberal. So why is the standard minimum edit count 6x that for ECP privileges? Mach61 (talk) 00:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PM is a powerful tool, more so than ECP. Move wars can be very disruptive, and aren't always that easy to clean up, as I know from experience as a page mover cleaning up bad moves by non-PMs. Edit warring comes easy to some people, myself included, but as a page mover, I'm every careful not to do so, as required by the criteria. This includes the temptation to revert moves that I know regular users can't revert back. I find the threat of the loss of PM privileges very effective in curbing my natural instincts. So far, I've been successful in resisting those temptations. It isn't always easy for me, but fortunately page moves occur infrequently compared to standard editing. Many ECP users wouldn't be able to resist, however. BilCat (talk) 01:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Personally I think we are far too quick to allow normal page moves to editors, and probably also to grant this right. Johnbod (talk) 01:48, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it can take a while to learn the ins and outs of article titles and moving pages. I had over 10 years of moves and RM discussion experiences before PM became a thing, and I'm glad for that experience. The fact that PM isn't granted automatically, but on a case by case basis, makes me believe our current requirements are probably fine as-is. I don't have a lot of experience moving files, so I've never requested permission for that. BilCat (talk) 02:00, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
thanks - I feel like a consensus has reached everyone has agreed to move the page to Al Jazeera Arabic. no point in waiting more time. Gsgdd (talk) 06:23, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers § Idea to reduce redirect backlog. A proposal has been made that redirects created by page movers when moving pages be automatically marked as reviewed. —a smart kitten[meow] 17:47, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
