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@Rfassbind: I saw this and thought I could write a small helper template, like {{Meanings of minor planet names/Grey}}, that will check the page for a redirect and return the necessary table wikitext to grey it out, and otherwise return normal table wikitext. What do you think?   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  11:55, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi@Tom.Reding:. Sure, go for it! Rfassbind – talk 12:53, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also consider to reuse some of your new code for the templates {{TOC001}} and {{Meanings of minor planet names}}, where automatic #R-detection and greying-out links could be applied as well, I think. Rfassbind – talk 13:08, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, between the helper template & {{LinkCatIfExists2}}, I believe I can cover all cases.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  13:53, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Totally forgot about this, but finally got around to it, via {{MoMP index element}}...   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  22:01, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, would it be possible to turn all the references on the subpages (the lists) to proper references with <ref></ref>. I find it confusing that these pages have a different system and use other symbols. Including other information about the url such as name and archive url also helps the verifiability long term. See also Wikipedia:Bare URLs. Dajasj (talk) 05:56, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. These should be turned into proper citations. Rublamb (talk) 14:42, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think having the partial lists classified as |class=list from inception is the best option (as opposed to |class=redirector|class=<blank>), whether or not they are currently a redirect, or have already been turned into a proper list. 2 reasons for this:

1. the category output of {{WikiProject banner shell}} is the same for both #Rs and for proper lists (easily tested on non-#R & currently-#R examples) due to its redirect-detection
2. using |class=redirector|class=<blank> places the page into 4 unassessed WikiProject categories (list, ast, astro, &ss) once the page becomes a proper list, which adds more work to be done after a page is converted from a redirect, and into ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.› Category:Pages using WikiProject banner shell without a project-independent quality ratingif|class=redirect is used

One of the goals, I think, is to minimize the steps necessary to bring a page out of dormancy as a redirect to a proper list, which |class=list does, with no real downside. Ping to Praemonitus who has done some recent rating here.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  14:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a redirect will automatically override the class setting, so there's no harm in setting it to 'list'. However, the way WP:AST importance ratings are assigned, a redirect has a 'na' importance while a 'list' will have a normal low/med/high/top importance. Praemonitus (talk) 05:00, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Praemonitus: I think it's ok if the temporary #Rs are misclassified as lists for the time they remain #Rs, even if that time is lengthy, since their intended purpose and eventual destination is to be a list. Otherwise it just seems like a distinction without much of a difference. But, if you want to keep track of that, go for it.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  17:24, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]