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I have started on a massive rewrite and consolidation of Viacom International articles as most information is either out of date or duplicated 3 or 4 times! I will carry this on when I am able over the next few weeks. Please do not revert this change. Mark999 (talk) 00:26, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Agree : Since ViacomCBS was born we know that Viacom International Media Networks has become ViacomCBS Networks International, but since then the title is wrong. This is incredible.--Carlitoscarlos (talk) 17:00, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as proposed. According to the first sentence of the article ("ViacomCBS Networks International, incorporated as ViacomCBS International Media Networks, is the international division of ViacomCBS") both names are correct. No reason for or evidence in support of a move has been presented here. Dekimasuよ!09:13, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agree : Official announcements (including recent shake-ups in the division), gave us the official names. Question - where did you see that it was "incorporated?" Can you provide the source Dekimasu?JWthaMajestic (talk) 15:15, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I simply quoted the article. Part of the point I was trying to make is that comments that say "correct" or "wrong" without pointing to evidence are not sufficient. In the case of your comment, you mention official announcements, but did not link to them, and we also have WP:OFFICIAL. Dekimasuよ!15:26, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Dekimasu. Evidence needs to be provided that the proposed name meets the WP:CRITERIA for page titling, in particular that it is the WP:COMMONNAME for this entity in reliable sources. No evidence has been provided so far. — Amakuru (talk) 22:16, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Dekimasu and concurred in by Amakuru. It seems like this is a case of the nom, in absolutely entirely good faith, trying to drop seemingly extraneous wording from the division name in order to be more concise under the premise that this meets WP:COMMONNAME. The problem with that, though, is it lacks precision. Moreover, shortening the title, even if there is common issue is problematic in terms of search precision and recall as there may be more than one division of a similar name (International is problematic here; there are more than ViacomCBS/Viacom/CBS International divisions). Doug MehusT·C12:18, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. I would normally close as unopposed and move it, but since there is a recent discussion above that came to the opposite conclusion, I do not think that is appropriate. The move request has already been relisted twice. buidhe00:25, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ViacomCBS International Media Networks → ViacomCBS Networks International – The new company has been established for 4 months now and the name "ViacomCBS International Media Networks" not the official name of the division nor was it ever. A Google search for "ViacomCBS Networks International" returns 38,800 results ("ViacomCBS Networks International") whereas a Google search for "ViacomCBS International Media Networks" returns just 22 ("ViacomCBS International Media Networks"). The inconsistency between the article title name is also very confusing. Looking at Google Trends, "ViacomCBS Networks International" is more popular, although there doesn't seem to be enough data for Google to return a proper Google Trends page [1]. In fact, Google Trends shows that no one searches for "ViacomCBS International Media Networks", but the data seems incomplete. Changing the name of the article would also make it constant with the other ViacomCBS international divisions that all follow the format ViacomCBS Networks placename as well as the official name of the division that is used by ViacomCBS. – BrandonXLF (talk) 06:14, 20 April 2020 (UTC) —Relisting.buidhe12:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The new company has been established for 4 months now and the name "ViacomCBS International Media Networks" not the official name of the division nor was it ever. A Google search for "ViacomCBS Networks International" returns 38,800 results ("ViacomCBS Networks International") whereas a Google search for "ViacomCBS International Media Networks" returns just 22 ("ViacomCBS International Media Networks"). The inconsistency between the article title name is also very confusing. Looking at Google Trends, "ViacomCBS Networks International" is more popular, although there doesn't seem to be enough data for Google to return a proper Google Trends page [2]. In fact, Google Trends shows that no one searches for "ViacomCBS International Media Networks", but the data seems incomplete. Changing the name of the article would also make it constant with the other ViacomCBS international divisions that all follow the format ViacomCBS Networks placename as well as the official name of the division that is used by ViacomCBS.
It is obvious that the current name is not correct and I am in favor of renaming the article as I was the previous time it was proposed. --Carlitoscarlos (talk) 06:04, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think I support the move now. Looking around it's clear that the new name is now in use by everyone even if it's maybe not the legal name. The current title of this article is a strange hybrid anyway, because the original title was Viacom International Media Networks without the CBS, and it was moved without discussion on November. — Amakuru (talk) 06:57, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Assuming that because ViacomCBS was rebranded as Paramount Global, all their subsidiaries keep all their same name with just ViacomCBS changing to Paramount is original research.
Some IPs and new editors mass replaced "ViacomCBS" by "Paramount" in a bunch of articles without giving any reliable source, they didn’t account to the fact that there’s already a Paramount Network (without the S), to avoid confusion Paramount Global maybe picked another name, we should wait for reliable sources. Thibaut (talk) 21:16, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As I said in the parent RM: the divisions pages should not be moved until there is some clarity as to their current names. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:22, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I only moved associated Templates as the original articles had already been moved, which I would've thought would have consensus before being moved. I apologise if this was wrong. (GMc) 01:02, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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