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Template:Script/Cuneiform works for me, as you can see in this screenshot here:

This is because I have the relevant fonts installed on my device, which allows the parameters |hit= and |7= to respectively display Hittite and Neo-Assyrian cuneiform on my browser.

Would it be possible for you to download the fonts at [1] and [2] and rework the template so that these following parameters render the text in these following fonts:

• |hit= should render cuneiform in the UllikummiA font;
• |6= should render cuneiform in the SantakkuM font (and the title should be changed from "Old Assyrian cuneiform" to "Old Babylonian cuneiform";
• |7= should render cuneiform in the Assurbanipal font;
• |8= should render cuneiform in the Esagil font.

If possible, the use of the template with one of these parameters on a page should also cause a message to display on that page to readers without the relevant font installed telling them to download and install said font, similarly to how the same feature is present on Wiktionary pages containing Hittite cuneiform script. Antiquistik (talk) 19:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not going to download fonts that I will not be using because, as I have said in the past, I know nothing (and don't particularly care to know) about Cuneiform.

I suspect that you can do this work yourself. For example, you might change:

|6 = 'Free Idg Serif',Akkadian,'Noto Sans Cuneiform','Noto Sans Sumero-Akkadian Cuneiform','Segoe UI Historic';" title="Old Assyrian cuneiform"<!-- use Akkadian, Noto, and Segoe as last resort -->

to:

|6 = 'SantakkuM', 'Free Idg Serif',Akkadian,'Noto Sans Cuneiform','Noto Sans Sumero-Akkadian Cuneiform','Segoe UI Historic';" title="Old Assyrian cuneiform"<!-- use Akkadian, Noto, and Segoe as last resort -->

etc.

The 'need to download a font' message is not possible. There is or was a separate template that could be added to article pages when the article text used an uncommon font. I remember seeing this but never needed to touch it so I don't know its name. You'll have to hunt for it. Perhaps the editors at WP:LANGUAGES can help.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have managed to make the parameter |8= render the Esagil font, but the parameter |6= is refusing to render the SantakkuM font even after I changed the code as you suggested. Is there anything I did wrong? Antiquistik (talk) 20:25, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, it works now. Antiquistik (talk) 20:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be possible for me to remove the titles, but without the template stopping to render the fonts as it presently does, though?

Other script templates don't include this title, and when used in articles, the cuneiform title prevents the language title from showing up, which is quite inconvenient. Antiquistik (talk) 21:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've managed to successfully make this change too. Antiquistik (talk) 21:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of the fall-back fonts and labels may not be the best of ideas. Have you achieved consensus somewhere for such drastic changes? Do you know unequivocally that your changes do not break articles that you are not interested in?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:22, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked, and they do not appear to break any articles.

Your concern about the labels is valid though, and I have accordingly restored them in a modified form so they will function similarly to the regular language labels.

Maintaining the back-fonts as well as the coding explaining the font preference seems to cause the template to not render some of the scripts, though, and I haven't been able to prevent this from happening. Unless there is a way to keep these without the template not rendering the script properly, they will unfortunately need to be removed. Antiquistik (talk) 23:29, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The template for uncommon fonts is Template:Contains special characters. Would it be possible to make the use of Template:Script/Cuneiform in a certain page automatically display this template's infoboxes at the top of the page if the parameters to which fonts have already been assigned are used? Antiquistik (talk) 09:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. Each instance of {{Script/Cuneiform}} in an article would render another instance of {{Contains special characters}}. Templates do not know about anything in an article except what is contained between their own opening {{ and closing }} so cannot see that another {{Script/Cuneiform}} exists in an article and has already added {{Contains special characters}}.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. I'll use it as it is.

I also have some issues with Template:lang regarding which I have left a request on its talk page. Can you have a look at it and see if any of these issues can be resolved? Antiquistik (talk) 13:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I expect you remember this recent thread at the Help Desk. Today I saw this diff and edit summary on my watchlist. I had a look at the article, and the revision before the diff displayed the same error messages as mentioned in the thread, the edit cleared them. I then tried renaming the "Publications" sections in Rudolf Roessler and Alexander von Humboldt, and that cleared the error messages. So, something about the presence of a "Publications" section is causing the "Harv error: linked from CITEREF..." orange error messages. I haven't got a clew how your (or anyone's) scripts work, but hope that this information could point you to a solution. All the best, DuncanHill (talk) 21:09, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm having a similar issue at Douglas Murray (author), where it also seems to be caused by the Publications section. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]