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1 Resources  



1.1  "Why MEDRS?" essay  





1.2  What is biomedical information?  





1.3  In a nutshell  





1.4  Tutorial summary  





1.5  From the MEDMOS manual page  



1.5.1  Citing sources (copied across 2018-06-20)  









2 Case 1: Antidepressants  





3 Case 2: Exercise  





4 Case 3: Kava  





5 Case 4: WHO guideline for chiropractic  





6 Case 5: Pancreatic cancer  





7 Case 6: Curcumin  





8 Case 7: Mirtazapine  





9 Case 8: Bacon  





10 Fringe cases  



10.1  Case 9: Emotional Freedom Techniques  





10.2  Case 10: Young blood transfusion  
















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The main purpose of this page is to gather some representative case studies for the way the WP:MEDRS guideline is applied.

The preliminary resources immediately below build up accounts of the normal situation in medical referencing. Case studies should also exhibit edge cases, where they occur, against a realistic background.

Resources[edit]

"Why MEDRS?" essay[edit]

Wikipedia:Why MEDRS? sets out to justify the rigorous nature of the guideline.

What is biomedical information?[edit]

From Wikipedia:Biomedical information, an annexe to MEDRS:

"Biomedical information is information that relates to (or could reasonably be perceived as relating to) human health. Generally speaking, such information should be supported by a reputable biomedical source, such as review articles, higher-level medical textbooks, and professional reference works."

In a nutshell[edit]

The "nutshell summary" for MEDRS is this:

Ideal sources for biomedical material include literature reviews or systematic reviews in reliable, third-party, published secondary sources (such as reputable medical journals), recognised standard textbooks by experts in a field, or medical guidelines and position statements from national or international expert bodies.

Tutorial summary[edit]

There is a quick tutorial Editing Medical Topics. A summary from it is:

Good sources:

From the MEDMOS manual page[edit]

The Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles#Citing sources medical manual of style has these points to make under "citing sources":

Citing sources (copied across 2018-06-20)[edit]

Sources should be used to make verifiable statements, but they should not be discussed by themselves in an article.

Case 1: Antidepressants[edit]

See Talk:Antidepressant/Archive 2#comparative efficacy and tolerability table. The table was criticised as

  1. "Original research" (say breaches of the WP:OR content policy requiring referencing, and possibly WP:SYNTH for aggregation);
  2. Relying on outdated references, see WP:MEDDATE, "In many topics, a review that was conducted more than five or so years ago will have been superseded by more up-to-date ones [...]".

Case 2: Exercise[edit]

See Talk:Exercise. The page is tagged with {{WikiProject Medicine |class=c |importance=High |cardiology=yes |cardiology-imp=low}}, meaning that it comes within the scope of MEDRS. The potential inclusion of material on animal exercise (i.e. for non-humans) has led to dispute on whether and how MEDRS might apply to such material. There is a formal record at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Archive 163#Talk:Exercise.

Case 3: Kava[edit]

See Talk:Kava/Archive 2#What will constitute sufficient evidence that kava helps with anxiety and that it is being investigated for its potential anti-cancer properties?.

This discussion walks through the "health food" or treatment implications of the literature on kava tea. It was argued that:

  1. A "double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study" is to be treated as "a limited short-term study on a small number of subjects", not qualifying for WP:MEDSCI and WP:MEDASSESS.
  2. ACochrane review reference, at that time 14 years old, passed muster.
  3. Some Therapeutic Goods Administration studies were regarded as of "supplement products with no proof of safety or efficacy".

Case 4: WHO guideline for chiropractic[edit]

See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Archive 45#Is WHO guideline a MEDRS.

  1. A WHO guideline from 2005 was stated (in 2014) to be reliable source (provided it is not contradicted by a newer Cochrane review), there being then no newer guideline that applied from the WHO.
  2. The application of this guideline was criticized for use in chiropractic, in alternative medicine, on the basis that it was "written for the WHO by a bunch of industry insiders, largely in response to political pressure".
  3. On the other hand, WP:MEDRS #Medical and scientific organizations specifically mentions the WHO as a reliable source.

The main point at issue was the safety of chiropractic. This paper, a systematic review, was stated to be the only paper on the topic within the five-year limit. It was stated to be inconclusive.

NB There is a long history of contention here. See Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2010-08-23/Chiropractic. But one should note also that MEDRS is not static, and comments there about the "review cycle" are absent from the current version.

Case 5: Pancreatic cancer[edit]

See Talk:Pancreatic cancer/Archive 3#Risk factors: herbicide use. This paper, from 2009, was characterized as "preliminary research", being "a beginning finding from a limited cohort study [...]" on what it had to say to indicate a possible link of herbicidestopancreatic cancer.

Case 6: Curcumin[edit]

See Talk:Curcumin#Recent additions.

  1. A source that was a comment in Nature was rejected under WP:MEDREV.
  2. Other related sources were rejected as "appear to be out-of-date or off-topic", in contrast to a 2017 review article that was in use.
  3. Another reversion of an edit, half "not in the cited source", and half under WP:UNDUE as based on a single study, proved contentious.

Case 7: Mirtazapine[edit]

See Mirtazapine and Talk:Mirtazapine. Mirtazapine (Remeron) is an atypical antidepressant. At the time of this writing, the article itself contains nine uses of the {{unreliable medical source}} template, all dated to October 2011. No talk page discussion of these.

The talk page contains a discussion of the appropriate conclusions to extract, relating to mirtazapine, from a National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) study. It concerns a 2010 follow-up study, one type of longitudinal study. NICE's clinical guidelines pass MEDRS as evidence-based and of high quality. What was cited, it was argued, was (a) not in the NICE conclusions, and (b) subject to WP:MEDDATE.

Case 8: Bacon[edit]

See Talk:Bacon#Health risks. The issue is the due handling of health risk from eating bacon. Points raised:

  1. Specificity: The health risk for bacon should be discussed independently of the risk for processed meat in general.
  2. Type of source: not journalism. At the time of this writing, on the other hand, the article contains a reference to the BBC website, tagged with {{unreliable medical source}}, and dealing with the health risk, that cites the WHO.
  3. Prominence: Does the health risk warrant a mention in the lead section?

A list of English Wikipedia articles containing {{unreliable medical source}} can be generated with this query.

Fringe cases[edit]

Tagging of an article talk page by {{Ds/talk notice|acu}} and/or {{Ds/talk notice|ps}} gives standing to the classification of the topic as alternative and complementary medicineorpseudoscience. (The tagging will be on the actual talk page, and is not applied to archives of talk pages.)

Case 9: Emotional Freedom Techniques[edit]

See Talk:Emotional Freedom Techniques/Archives/2014/November#Horribly_biased. It was argued that a reference to Current Research in Psychology was unreliable, because of the closeness of the author to the treatment, and failed MEDRS because the journal had a predatory publisher.

Sources defining "predatory publishers" include Beall's List.

Case 10: Young blood transfusion[edit]

See Talk:Young blood transfusion.

  1. Science-Based Medicine, which is a blog, is customarily considered a reliable source for matters covered by WP:FRINGE. While blogposts as a general rule are not accepted as reliable sources, the general guideline at WP:RSSELF admits some special cases.

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