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byTom ( 822 ) writes:
the plug-in hybrid version dominated sales.
Because that is what you arrive at if you rationally think things through. My next car will be one as well.
It's a simple logic: Maybe half of my driving is short-distance where a low-capacity battery would suffice, and chances are pretty good that there'll be a charger at my destination.
But now and then I take long-distance trips that would be hell with an EV. My last trip was a bit over 800 km, each way, in winter. With an EV I would have had to stop for extended breaks at least three times, adding at leas
byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
Why would you need to stop three times on an 800km trip? I have an EQA. It doesn’t have the longest range in the world, only 330 miles in the summer, but it can comfortably do 250 miles in the winter. So it could do that trip you describe with one 30 minute stop for a meal and one 15 minute stop for a pee.
Also, what is this weird obsession people have here with not stopping on a very long journey? 800km is more than 7 hours of driving at 70mph. In real world conditions, that’s presubly at least 8 hours, allowing for traffic, roadworks, etc. Don’t you get hungry during 8 hours of driving? Don’t you get tired? Don’t you want to stop for a pee or possibly a dump? I cannot imagine living life this way, racing to a destination for all those hours, stopping for three minutes only to piss quickly, eating shitty sandwiches on the go, arriving knackered, risking the lives of me, my passengers and everyone else I encounter on the road by not stopping for long enough for the fatigue to dissipate.
Here’s what I do when I drive the 260 miles to see my son in Durham where he’s at university. I get in the car in London with a full charge. I drive about 2.5 hours, stop at a service station, plug the car in, go and have lunch or dinner depending on the time of day, get back in the car and drive the remaining 2.5 to 3 hours to Durham. It takes me about 5 to 10 minutes less than if I had an ICE vehicle, because I don’t have the additional step of having to move the car from the restaurant to the service station, stand by the car while it fills up, go inside and pay, and come back out to the car. I don’t bother planning which service station to stop at, because they’ve all got more than enough rapid chargers.
(Also, while this is country-dependent, here in the UK, I have been driving EVs for 10 years and have never once had to wait to use a public charger, holiday period or no holiday period)
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byTom ( 822 ) writes:
Why would you need to stop three times on an 800km trip?
Because I am assuming real-world conditions where you can't be sure to start off at 100%. And in this particular case, I knew there wouldn't be a charger at the destination, so I had to arrive with enough battery to park the car for a week and then drive to wherever the nearest charger was.
Also, what is this weird obsession people have here with not stopping on a very long journey?
It depends. When I'm on a leisure trip I take my time, stop more often for sights, take 2 hour breaks to see something interesting on the way, etc. But sometimes, I need to be somewhere at a given time. Or otherwise don't
byprefect42 ( 141309 ) writes:
I get mildly annoyed at the absence of middling chargers. I want a charger that can add on the range I need while I have lunch, as that goldilocks zone doesn't seem to exist. I end up popping out to unplug the car before I've finished eating, which is obviously the end of the world.
I've definitely been unable to charge at slow 3.5/7kW chargers because they were busy, but then I was on holiday, and wasn't urgently needing a charge, so just plugged in another day.
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