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from the power-shifting dept.
Porsche made an announcement Friday. In Europe they sold more electrified Porsches last year than pure combustion-engined models, reports Electrek:
in Europe, a majority (57.9%) of Porsche's deliveries were plug-ins, with 1/3 of its European sales being fully electric. For models that have no fully electric version but do have a PHEV (Cayenne and Panamera), the plug-in hybrid version dominated sales.
Of particular note, the Macan sold better with an electric powertrain than it did with a gas one, and was the company's strongest-selling model line and the line with the largest sales growth. The Macan sold 84,328 units globally (up 2% from last year), with 45,367 (53.8%) of those being electric. That 53.8% may seem like a slim majority, but when compared to EV sales globally, it's incredibly high. About a quarter of new cars sold globally were electric in 2025, so Porsche is beating that number with the one model where direct comparisons are available.
And even in the US, about a third of Macans sold were electric. That's notable given the tough year EVs had in the US, with it being the only major car-buying region that experienced a tick down in EV sales... And again, while 1/3 is a minority of Macan sales in the US, it's also well over the US' average ~10% EV sales. So it's clear the EV Macan isn't just performing like an average EV, but well beyond it.
The article adds that "we're quite excited about the Cayenne EV, which will be the most powerful Porsche ever."
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byalvinrod ( 889928 ) writes:
If I were going to buy a Porsche, I'd want a 911. The Taycan is a lot closer to the iconic look, but not quite as cool. Make an electric 911 and it will definitely sell well.
byMr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
911? Why? The bestest, cutest Porsche is the original 356.
byMr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
So it is no worse than a muskpanzer or any other teZla.
byCommunityMember ( 6662188 ) writes:
If I were going to buy a Porsche, I'd want a 911. The Taycan is a lot closer to the iconic look, but not quite as cool. Make an electric 911 and it will definitely sell well.
While the latest 911 Carrera 4S is impressive, 30 years ago I wanted a 959 (not that I could afford it, nor get on the very rarefied list of those who would have been allowed to get on the list of the ~300 cars manufactured).
byLinux Torvalds ( 647197 ) writes:
Make an electric 911 and it will definitely sell well.
Make an electric 911 and you might as well go to Iran and throw a rock at the Ayatollah's porch light.
byViol8 ( 599362 ) writes:
A large part of the 911s appeal is the sound of the flat 6 engine, its not all about outright performance.
byTom ( 822 ) writes:
This. The 911 sells because it promises a "raw driving" experience. It's not a very comfortable car. But it's a "you feel the road, you feel the engine, you feel the speed" thing.
byCommunityMember ( 6662188 ) writes:
I understand the marketing reasoning for the existence of the Macan, but a 4-door Porsche is just so very very wrong.
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byGravis Zero ( 934156 ) writes:
Now I'm very confused because such honest purveyors of truth have told me repeatedly on Slashdot that "NoBoDy WaNtS tO bUy An Ev!"
I ask you friends, how could this possibly happen? I've been this told one thing repeatedly but reality does not appear to reflect what I've been told!
If you had a sound explanation then I beg of you to share it with little ol'e me because I do fear this most incongruous behavior is causing me to come down with a dreadful case of the vapors!
bytrelanexiph ( 605826 ) writes:
Porsche pushed the EV to the exclusion of almost everything else.
The company suffered huge losses. https://www.reuters.com/busine... [reuters.com]
The CEO is gone: https://rennlist.com/articles/... [rennlist.com]
The new CEO is now trying to unwind the EV mess. https://www.reuters.com/busine... [reuters.com]
So to answer your question, Porsche didnâ(TM)t sell more EVâ(TM)s they sold less of everything else. Now they and their parent company, VAG, are broke.
bylarryjoe ( 135075 ) writes:
Porsche is not broke. Its profits plunged from around 4 billion euros to 40 million. However, most of that is due to the 2.7 billion euro charge for bringing back ICE and hybrid cars. That means that the most of the profits will quickly return, since the near loss was largely due the accounting charge. The parts that will continue to struggle relate to China and the US. Chinese sales for Porsche are struggling against extreme price competition, including prices that are likely unsustainable for even the Chinese companies. In the US, tariffs cost Porsche 700 million euros.
Porsche is bringing back ICE and hybrid cars, but they are not abandoning EVs. The CEO is sort of gone. Blume was the CEO of both VW and Porsche. Now, he's just the CEO of VW, but VW owns 75% of Porsche, so in a very real way, he's still the boss of Porsche.
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byGravis Zero ( 934156 ) writes:
So to answer your question, Porsche didn't sell more EVs they sold less of everything else.
That still means that people wanted EVs more than ICEV and that is still in direct contradiction of what people have claimed on Slashdot.
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
There is so much backwards about your argument. People on Slashdot say that EVs are not practical for a normal person. If you are buying a Porsche you are already not interested in practical.
byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
Most Porsches are not 911s. They are SUVs, and as practical as any other SUV.
bythegarbz ( 1787294 ) writes:
The company suffered huge losses. https://www.reuters.com/busine [reuters.com]... [reuters.com]
Every company who invests in something suffers "losses". That's how net profit works. If you reinvest some of your income it ceases being profit. Porches revenue (the actual money they make) is only slightly down from their 2022 record.
byTheMiddleRoad ( 1153113 ) writes:
No one-pedal driving. It's idiotic. For performance driving, getting regen on pedal lift before braking is excellent.
bydunkelfalke ( 91624 ) writes:
I don't get one pedal driving, to be honest. My personal preference is using the adaptive tempomat as much as possible, making it mostly zero pedal driving.
byTheMiddleRoad ( 1153113 ) writes:
It's easier. Smaller foot movement cover ~99% of driving. Speed control is more precise. No coasting wait before braking. In fact, I'd prefer at least the option of one pedal that goes from full acceleration to full braking, not just one pedal that goes from full acceleration to moderate braking.
bydunkelfalke ( 91624 ) writes:
I know perfectly well how it works and my car (Hyundai Inster) does support it, I simply don't see the utility of driving like that. Ultimately it comes down to personal preferences, I guess.
bymisnohmer ( 1636461 ) writes:
Porsche plays exclusivity games by limiting allocations for their cars. I inquired about getting a Macan EV Turbo approximately a year ago, was told no allocations available or on the horizon. I waited nearly 2 years (of active searching) to buy a Taycan CT Turbo, but back then there were not as many EV alternatives available. I don't think I'd wait that long for another one. Macan EV is no 911 GT3 RS, people will inquire about getting one, and if they are told they have to wait months or years, they will m
byTheMiddleRoad ( 1153113 ) writes:
15 Macan EVs on one lot near me. They're not selling all that well as far as I can tell.
Also, a bad review: https://www.edmunds.com/car-ne... [edmunds.com]
So bullet dodged.
I love my i4.
bymisnohmer ( 1636461 ) writes:
While there were no Macan EV Turbos available for sale on the lots near me, it probably would not have mattered. One of the reason I like Porsche is because I can custom build the car I want, only pay for options which are important to me. Apparently my taste varies significantly from the specifications dealer will spec for their cats for the lot, which are generally chosen for most commonly requested features, and include highest profit options (e.g. $2,500 EVSE, or deviated stitching color, or gold colore
byTheMiddleRoad ( 1153113 ) writes:
Chinese buyers of expensive cars are chauffeured anyway. They want huge rear seat access, not performance.
bymisnohmer ( 1636461 ) writes:
Who then used to buy the Porsches in China until recently? People who wanted to get chauffeured in a 911 GT3 RS?
byTom ( 822 ) writes:
the plug-in hybrid version dominated sales.
Because that is what you arrive at if you rationally think things through. My next car will be one as well.
It's a simple logic: Maybe half of my driving is short-distance where a low-capacity battery would suffice, and chances are pretty good that there'll be a charger at my destination.
But now and then I take long-distance trips that would be hell with an EV. My last trip was a bit over 800 km, each way, in winter. With an EV I would have had to stop for extended breaks at least three times, adding at least an additional hour to an already long trip. During holiday travel season, so can't even be sure to find a free charger.
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byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
Why would you need to stop three times on an 800km trip? I have an EQA. It doesn’t have the longest range in the world, only 330 miles in the summer, but it can comfortably do 250 miles in the winter. So it could do that trip you describe with one 30 minute stop for a meal and one 15 minute stop for a pee.
Also, what is this weird obsession people have here with not stopping on a very long journey? 800km is more than 7 hours of driving at 70mph. In real world conditions, that’s presubly at least
byTom ( 822 ) writes:
Why would you need to stop three times on an 800km trip?
Because I am assuming real-world conditions where you can't be sure to start off at 100%. And in this particular case, I knew there wouldn't be a charger at the destination, so I had to arrive with enough battery to park the car for a week and then drive to wherever the nearest charger was.
Also, what is this weird obsession people have here with not stopping on a very long journey?
It depends. When I'm on a leisure trip I take my time, stop more often for sights, take 2 hour breaks to see something interesting on the way, etc. But sometimes, I need to be somewhere at a given time. Or otherwise don't
byprefect42 ( 141309 ) writes:
I get mildly annoyed at the absence of middling chargers. I want a charger that can add on the range I need while I have lunch, as that goldilocks zone doesn't seem to exist. I end up popping out to unplug the car before I've finished eating, which is obviously the end of the world.
I've definitely been unable to charge at slow 3.5/7kW chargers because they were busy, but then I was on holiday, and wasn't urgently needing a charge, so just plugged in another day.
byswillden ( 191260 ) writes:
the plug-in hybrid version dominated sales.
Because that is what you arrive at if you rationally think things through. My next car will be one as well.
It's a simple logic: Maybe half of my driving is short-distance where a low-capacity battery would suffice, and chances are pretty good that there'll be a charger at my destination.
But now and then I take long-distance trips that would be hell with an EV.
I've made a lot of long-distance trips with an EV, and they're really just fine. You do want to have an EV with 300+ miles of range. I did some long-range trips with my 2014 Model S, which had only 200 miles of range, and that was painful, especially since in regions with sparse chargers (like mine) such limited range means you often have to charge the battery to full in order to reach the next charger, and charging to 100% is slow. With a bigger battery you can avoid charging over 70% (except at mealtim
byTom ( 822 ) writes:
Did you try plugging this plan into an EV route planner? What was the actual route?
No, because I don't yet own an EV and it's not like I travel that exact route all the time. It was just an example. And yes, I consider 20 min an extended break. On long drives I take 3-4 breaks of 5-10 min. max. - I'd rather add one or two short breaks then make the breaks longer. From a comfort and relaxing POV, there's no difference between 10 and 20 min. but there is a difference between 2 and 3 breaks. But YMMV.
byswillden ( 191260 ) writes:
Did you try plugging this plan into an EV route planner? What was the actual route?
No, because I don't yet own an EV and it's not like I travel that exact route all the time. It was just an example. And yes, I consider 20 min an extended break. On long drives I take 3-4 breaks of 5-10 min. max. - I'd rather add one or two short breaks then make the breaks longer. From a comfort and relaxing POV, there's no difference between 10 and 20 min. but there is a difference between 2 and 3 breaks. But YMMV.
Try plugging the route in to https://abetterrouteplanner.co... [abetterrouteplanner.com.] It offers a slider that allows you to choose whether you prefer fewer, longer stops or more, shorter stops.
As for more, shorter breaks instead of fewer longer ones, that's actually the right way to minimize total charge time because you take on energy faster during the first minutes of charging, though you do spend a couple of minutes getting from the highway to the chargers, pulling in and hooking up, so there's a point of diminishing return
byTom ( 822 ) writes:
All good points. And two or three years in the future, when it's time for me to look for a new car, that will probably have improved even more.
bybleedingobvious ( 6265230 ) writes:
That's shocking!
Seriously. "Electrified" is *not* the word we were aiming at here.
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
So people who buy Porsches have the money to also own an ICE for real use... This is not a surprise.
byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
Loads of people around my area have a Taycan or a Macan. A few have an ICE second car, but by and large, the second car of choice appears to be an i3. I personally have always thought it was ugly and impractical and preferred my old Zoe as a small car. But people are brand snobs and prefer BMWs to Renaults if they’ve got the money. No judgement — it applies to me too, I traded up to a Mercedes when I could.
byTorp ( 199297 ) writes:
At that end of the price range the 10k premium (which is probably 20k for porsches) for electric is irellevant.
Wake me up when they sell more electric Golfs and Polos than gasoline.
byargStyopa ( 232550 ) writes:
Porsche is already a brand bought only by the wealthy; it's unsurprising that they - who are likely to
1) have alternative transport if they don't feel like waiting for the ev to charge up
2) have almost no consequence for large sums of money 'wasted on a fad' if it turns out to be something that doesn't work for them
bykenh ( 9056 ) writes:
The Macan is an SUV - people DO use them to haul groceries and pick up kids.
I wonder if there are any subsidies for buying EV/Hybrids in Europe? I wonder if that is skewing the numbers?
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bykenh ( 9056 ) writes:
Meant to add - https://www.porsche.com/usa/mo... [porsche.com]
byFirethorn ( 177587 ) writes:
Depends on the country in question, but generally yes.
Denmark - cheaper registration
Netherlands - road tax exemptions
France - purchase bonuses (subsidy), but reduced
Germany - stopped most by 2024, road tax exemptions remain
UK - purchase grants mostly phased out.
Norway - VAT exemptions, reduced tolls
Spain - purchase grants, funding inconsistent
Italy - purchase incentives, but sporadic, funding runs out fast.
That doesn't seem like much to me to be a heavy driver.
bySique ( 173459 ) writes:
Germany - stopped most by 2024, road tax exemptions remain
New subsidies, probably active in May, but retroactively valid for any purchases since Jan 1st 2026. Less than a full BEV (which can fetch up to 6000 EUR, depending on income and number of children), but up to 1500 EUR if the electric range exceeds 80 km (50 mls).
bytoutankh ( 1544253 ) writes:
What exactly do you mean with "skewing"? The point of subsidies is to influence choice to produce certain outcomes that are considered beneficial. If the subsidies produce the outcome they seek, then they work. I don't see how the concept of "skewing" fits in that discussion. What is the unskewed baseline?
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
It's funny how do many people praise capitalism and will defend it to the death. But when socialism comes in that supports something they want to support, they believe in that too.
bytoutankh ( 1544253 ) writes:
I genuinely have no idea who you are targeting with that comment, and based on what. Can you clarify?
bykarmawarrior ( 311177 ) writes:
He means that socialism is when the government does things, and the more things it does the more socialismismism it is.
byswillden ( 191260 ) writes:
What exactly do you mean with "skewing"? The point of subsidies is to influence choice to produce certain outcomes that are considered beneficial. If the subsidies produce the outcome they seek, then they work. I don't see how the concept of "skewing" fits in that discussion. What is the unskewed baseline?
The unskewed baseline would be the market outcome without the subsidy. This seems obvious?
Though it's worth pointing out that absent carbon taxes, fossil fuel-powered vehicles have a rather large implicit subsidy, an uninternalized externality. And there are all kinds of other subsidies and taxes going on, so identifying the true unskewed baseline, i.e. what the open market would do absent any government adjustments, is hard.
bytoutankh ( 1544253 ) writes:
You can take another step back. A society built so that car is the default mode of transportation is skewed towards car usage. Exhibit A: the USA.
What is the value of looking at these things in terms of how skewed they are?
byTom ( 822 ) writes:
I wonder if there are any subsidies for buying EV/Hybrids in Europe?
There are. Details vary by country.
But it's not just subsidies. Increasingly, in the city centers cars are forced out by simply making driving hell, and parking even worse - but you can usually find an EV charging spot where it is legal to stand as long as you are charging. There are also various exceptions - sometimes from road tolls, but in at least one country (Austria) driving an EV means that in some places the speed limit doesn't apply to you (whenever the bureaucratic reason for that speed limit in
bySique ( 173459 ) writes:
You are talking about the IGL speed limit. As I am living near the A12 in Tyrol, I really appreciate the speed limit, as it really has improved air quality. And of course, cars without sooth in the exhaust are exempt from the speed limit, which are right now only hydrogen powered and electric vehicles. (If you were able to get a nuclear powered car street legal, you would be exempt too.)
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
There are often incentives, such as people can get them through their job at a discount, and their employer favours cars that are at least somewhat less stupid and pure fossil burners.
Overall though it is probably just that their electrified models are good.
byMr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
You should try to leave Carizo Springs from time to time and travel a bit, you know. Or get smarter than your king and that Miss North Carolina girl and learn about map projections and stuff.
https://thetruesize.com/ [thetruesize.com]
bygurps_npc ( 621217 ) writes:
There are these things called gas stations, perhaps you have heard of them. The only issue with distance is if you can not fuel up with gas. 2/3 of EVs can use gas in an emergency.
There are 3 kinds of EVs - plug in only (no gas), hybrid with plug in (gas or plug in), and Hybrid without plug in (gas fill up only cannot plug in).
In Europe, those gas stations also have places to plug in, which means even the plug in only EVs can cross all of Europe.
If Texas was smart, they would have plug in gas stations also and you could travel from El Paso to Port Arthur, Texas.
Oh wait, Texas IS smart and you can totally travel from Port Arthur to El Paso:
https://www.plugshare.com/ [plugshare.com]
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bylarryjoe ( 135075 ) writes:
In Europe, those gas stations also have places to plug in, which means even the plug in only EVs can cross all of Europe.
The reason public EV chargers work is that there are so few EVs. If we assume that all cars on the highway could charge from 10% to 80% in 20 minutes and all cars were EV, the number of chargers and parking spaces for cars waiting for those chargers would be staggering. Its simply not practical unless charging times can improve to ICE levels of 3-5 minutes.
The only reason public chargers work is (1) there are so few EVs and (2) 80-90% of EVs are charged at home or work because they are owned by relatively
byTom ( 822 ) writes:
The reason public EV chargers work is that there are so few EVs.
No, the reason they work is because unlike petrol pumps you can put up a charger anywhere. Over here, most supermarkets have EV charging in their parking lot, and if demand goes up they could easily just add a couple more. Same for train station parking and park&ride. Heck, the P&R in my village added solar panel roofs last year so we now have charging and parking in the shade.
Not to mention that as prices for solar continue to fall, more and more people can charge at home for free. And people love free stuff.
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byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
How long do you really think supermarkets are going to keep putting more chargers in the lot? Where I live we have block heaters and lots not only had to be legislated into putting power to each spot but it's not even permanent power-- it cycles on every 10 minutes. If EVs become mainstream there is no way there will ever be a charger at every spot; it's just not workable. The only thing driving them now is virtue signaling, but that has a limit.
byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
It’s a revenue opportunity for the supermarket — it increases dwell time and they get a cut of the charger fees. Which is why more and more supermarkets in Europe are putting in more and more of these. But definitely not at every parking space, because that would massively outstrip demand.
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
You have to PAY to park at a grocery store and use the charger? Lol. As for demand, I was taking about when EVs are mainstream.
byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
You don’t have to pay to park, you do have to pay to charge. Just like, ya know, you pay to refuel at a supermarket, they don’t give the fuel away for free. And supermarkets will still not need to install chargers at every parking space in 25 years when the transition is complete, because that will still mean supply massively outstripping demand.
For the UK
- 34m cars
- 30% can’t be charged at the home, so 10m
- Average time between charges is 10 days
- Therefore, 1m public charges a day
- There
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
Well, remember this conversation when there are no charger spots because someone went into the mall for a day and left their car plugged in there also the thing that you don't realize is by going to a store with chargers you have lost your choice to go to any store you want. There is a good chance you will pay higher costs overall. Same with hotels.
byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
I’ve been driving EVs for the last 10 years. These are things you’re scared of, not me. I’ve never come close to running out of charge in all that time, even back when I had a car that could only do 70 miles in the winter.
Everyone gets to shop and park and charge wherever they like. They may pay a premium for combining those, or they may pay a discount. Depends on how the supermarket and charger companies decide they want to run their businesses.
When I go to see my son in Durham, I have a
bytragedy ( 27079 ) writes:
Well, remember this conversation when there are no charger spots because someone went into the mall for a day and left their car plugged in there also the thing that you don't realize is by going to a store with chargers you have lost your choice to go to any store you want. There is a good chance you will pay higher costs overall. Same with hotels.
What utter drivel. While the typical parking spots would not be pay spots, there absolutely could be extra charges for occupying a charging spot while not charging. Also, it's not like timed parking with a fine if you exceed the time isn't already a thing. That's even if you ignore technology that pretty much already exists. All it takes is a system for the charger to unplug itself when it's done (robotic attendant, scorpion/tentacle arm on the charging cable, wireless charging pad on the underside of the c
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
But it doesn't work that way here.
byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
Lucky I don't live where you live, then
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
That misses the point if the goal is to have EVs usable everywhere globally.
bytragedy ( 27079 ) writes:
I think you may be the one missing the point there. If, as you say, "it doesn't work that way here" but it works that way elsewhere, then what's the reason it can't work that way where you are? Is it an immutable law of nature?
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
Robotic attendant. Lol. And full self driving by 2020.
byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
Ha! I’d love to know which parts of this he considers impossible due to an immutable law of nature in Canada, because this is what he responded to, to say “it doesn’t work that way here”:
“Everyone gets to shop and park and charge wherever they like. They may pay a premium for combining those, or they may pay a discount. Depends on how the supermarket and charger companies decide they want to run their businesses.
When I go to see my son in Durham, I have a choice of a hotel with
bytragedy ( 27079 ) writes:
I think you missed the part about those being potential technological solutions to a non problem. As in, you could technically solve them that way if you had to, but you don't because it isn't really a problem.
As for "full self driving", I clearly never said it. That's just a straw man. What I said was "basic self driving features" As in, enough to move from one parking spot to another. Self driving cars capable of handling all driving situations are a long way off. Self driving cars that can handled the co
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
Where I live they can't even keep parking meters and tire air pumps working due to the weather. Never mind things that have to roll along the ground reliably. First snow that will be done.
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
Lots of options but they are all a pain in the ass.
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
If it's not an immutable law of nature than why isn't it happening?
bytragedy ( 27079 ) writes:
Where I live they can't even keep parking meters and tire air pumps working due to the weather. Never mind things that have to roll along the ground reliably. First snow that will be done.
Talk about things looking for a technological solution. I think someone said you live in Canada. From what I can find, the coldest place in Canada is in Nunavut with average low temperatures in the coldest part of winter at -38.4 C. Let's just say -40 without the degree marker so that if anyone asks if it's F or C, the answer can be "Yes!" and record cold of around -50 C. Chilly and also pretty close to lethal for humans, so I am guessing you might not be going to the mall in that kind of cold. If you do, t
byDrYak ( 748999 ) writes:
If EVs become mainstream there is no way there will ever be a charger at every spot; it's just not workable.
Keep in mind that not every car needs to charge at every single stop along every single travel.
A lot of EV would have been slow charging during the night at home (as in, just plugged to the mains. Not to some exotic ultra-high speed charger) or at work.
When they do short travel (to the mall, commuting between work and home, etc.) they'll just travel without stopping for charging.
It's the same reason gas station work pretty well while only having a couple of pumps in nearly all locations. Because there aren'
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
Well I agree that the ironic thing about EVs is that it is best to just not use them. And yes I have been saying for dinner time that they are now popular in Europe because there are more travel options than here in North America. Not only are there trains, but renting a vehicle at your destination is half the cost than it is here.
byTom ( 822 ) writes:
When they do short travel (to the mall, commuting between work and home, etc.) they'll just travel without stopping for charging.
Exactly. I'd love to have a hybrid because most of my travel (by numbers) I would do within a range where even with no charging at the destination I would be comfortably back home where my solar can top up the car. And the other half (by distance) of travel I'd know it just switches to petrol when the battery is out.
a situation where "just use the train" is the simplest option
We are getting further away from that goal however, not closer. I used to travel a lot by train in Germany. I mean a lot - I was just a bit short of the BahnCard 100 being the commercially best
byTom ( 822 ) writes:
How long do you really think supermarkets are going to keep putting more chargers in the lot?
As long as they have incentives to do so. The incentives can be three types: a) mandated by law, b) requested by customers, c) charger operator pays them a small fee or percentage which means they can monitize space that they already have anyways.
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
That's fine. Most people will wait until those incentives kick in before buying an EV. I don't have confidence the incentives will keep to with demand, because the nature of capitalism is that companies drag their feet until people are screaming and begging and then they move in to profit.
byBeaverCleaver ( 673164 ) writes:
the P&R in my village added solar panel roofs last year so we now have charging and parking in the shade.
I live in a hot climate. I wish there was more of this.
bycoopertempleclause ( 7262286 ) writes:
I love Americans telling us something won't work when it's already working.
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bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
Ain't that America. We've gone from "We can do anything better than you" to "we can't do anything because it's hard and waaaaaaah"
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bytragedy ( 27079 ) writes:
You can drive across each country pretty much in one day. It takes MULTIPLE days to drive across just the state of Texas, and there are 47 others in the continental U.S.
??? Just checked Shreveport, LA to Las Cruces, NM. Twelve and a half hours to cover 867 miles of driving at about 69 mph. Also, the widest path across Texas is apparently about 773 miles. So ultimately less than half a day. France's widest point is about 600 miles. Also, width is not really a great measure since Texas is a fairly irregular shape and France is topologically closer to round. In any case, France is 79% of the size of Texas. Also, if you're cherry picking states for size, why would you choose relatively puny Texas and not Alaska?
Also, Europe is larger in land area than the US, so if Europe isn't that big, then the US is also not that big.
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bykarmawarrior ( 311177 ) writes:
> It takes MULTIPLE days to drive across just the state of Texas,
Yeah I had a car like that once too.
Also you are aware Texas is the second largest state in the US and the vast majority of states are a tiny fraction of the size, right? Texas is very much an outlier.
Also exactly how many Texans commute from one side of the state to the other on a daily basis?
Do you realize how utterly absurd your observation is in terms of relevance to an article about EVs?
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byTom ( 822 ) writes:
You can drive across each country pretty much in one day
That is true.
It takes MULTIPLE days to drive across just the state of Texas,
That's bullshit. An east-west crossing on the I-20 and I-30 takes, according to Google Maps, about 11 hours. That's roughly the same time it would take to cross Germany from north to south.
and there are 47 others
Of which 46 are smaller than Texas, and 45 are less than half the size of Texas.
byDragonslicer ( 991472 ) writes:
and there are 47 others
Of which 46 are smaller than Texas, and 45 are less than half the size of Texas.
47 are smaller than Texas; Alaska isn't part of that group. 45 is correct though; California and Montana are more than half the size of Texas.
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
Interesting that it is 11 hours. Bjorn Nyland does a 1000km test for EVs, which in a benchmark fossil takes about 9 hours. The fastest EVs only take another 30 minutes or so, charging/battery swap adds very little and in practice can be combined with necessary comfort breaks.
So to cross Taxas in an EV, even with the sub-standard infrastructure, it will probably be just as fast as a fossil car if you aren't willing to pee in a bottle in a moving car.
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byswillden ( 191260 ) writes:
Interesting that it is 11 hours. Bjorn Nyland does a 1000km test for EVs, which in a benchmark fossil takes about 9 hours. The fastest EVs only take another 30 minutes or so, charging/battery swap adds very little and in practice can be combined with necessary comfort breaks.
So to cross Taxas in an EV, even with the sub-standard infrastructure, it will probably be just as fast as a fossil car if you aren't willing to pee in a bottle in a moving car.
Infrastructure for driving an EV across Texas isn't bad. I'm not sure what exact route Tom was looking at, but Texarkana to El Paso is 814 miles and Google Maps says it would take 11:51. That's assuming no stops at all, of course. More realistically, even if you're peeing in a bottle you're going to have to stop for gas at least twice, so it's more like 12:15.
According to abetterrouteplanner.com, my Tesla would take 13:36 to drive that same route:
Texarkana to New Salem: 3h 52m, 259 miles, charge for
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
Nyland used to tow a trailer with a Model X, years ago.
byswillden ( 191260 ) writes:
Nyland used to tow a trailer with a Model X, years ago.
Not enough range or towing capacity.
bystrikethree ( 811449 ) writes:
So to cross Taxas in an EV, even with the sub-standard infrastructure, it will probably be just as fast as a fossil car if you aren't willing to pee in a bottle in a moving car.
LOL, do you even drive sir? It takes 10 minutes maximum to walk in, use the restroom, fill the vehicle with gas, and drive off. Electric vehicles do not even come close to that.
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
Sure they do. I was looking at a trip up to Scotland, basically 9-10 hours of driving. The route planner app I use suggested two 10 minute charge stops, and one 20 minute stop. It's not even a super fast charging EV, max is about 145kW.
Realistically I wouldn't be able to stick to that schedule, I'd need longer stops to get coffee and lunch. That's the issue I've found now, it charges so fast and the range is so good (300 miles) that it exceeds my human needs.
bythegarbz ( 1787294 ) writes:
I know America doesn't understand the concept of being able to travel across a country border without ICE shooting you or getting deported to South America, but Europe* is much bigger than Texas and people have no problem driving across Europe in their EVs. You'll probably be amazed to find out you don't even get stopped or asked for a passport when you do.
byAnonymous Coward writes:
You Texans sure do like to overestimate the size of your puny little state. My EV works just fine in my state.
- an Alaskan.
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
It takes multiple days to drive across Europe too, and there is something called the Schengen Zone which is similar to how it works in the US - just drive over the border, no passport checks, live and work in two different states, that kind of thing.
byaepervius ( 535155 ) writes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/texas... [reddit.com]
Texas is about the same size of France maybe about 30% more due to geometry. It does not takes multiple days to drive through France if you drive through the express ways, unless you use exclusively the very small roads. Texas in width and height is roughly 800 miles, Highway in Texas are 95 mph , so if you manage to only use highway Texas traveling is not DAYS, but rather half a day.
byaepervius ( 535155 ) writes:
I typoed on highway speed in Texas
byTorp ( 199297 ) writes:
Texas has shit highways?
bydjgl ( 6202552 ) writes:
Texas is barely larger than France.
byLDA6502 ( 7474138 ) writes:
You can drive across Texas on I-10 from Orange to El Paso (852 mi / 1371 km) in 17 hours 20 minutes using a Chevy Bolt EUV or in 14 hours 10 minutes using a Lucid Air, with all other BEVs with DC fast charging support falling somewhere between.
I've driven from coast to coast across the USA a couple of times in a PHEV and it never took longer than 3 days (~15 hours max per day). Using a sufficiently fast charging BEV and charging overnight at hotels, it might add half a day.
byArchieBunker ( 132337 ) writes:
While hauling a 1/16 scale model of a clipper ship uphill both ways.
byMr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
I get closer to childhood with every year that passes, you insensitive clod.
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