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I was looking at this, and wondering about having The Masterplan listed as an album. It is not an album in the normal sense, as it is a collection of B-sides. In my mind, this raises questions about whether it should be listed alongside the 6 studio albums, especially when other releases like Familiar to Millions are not. What do other people think? --Apyule 06:38, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I just checked oasisinet, and they list both FTM and Masterplan as albums, so I think that we should too. --Apyule 06:27, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I have changed this to have more catagories, after this editby Painbearer. I'm pretty ambivalent about it, but... --Apyule 30 June 2005 07:25 (UTC)
Latest comment: 18 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
There's an issue as to whether members such as Scott McLeod and Jay Darlington should be included in this template. To fill anyone in who's interested:
Scott McLeod performed on tour with Oasis for a month or so while McGuigan was on a brief hiatus and was filmed with the band in the Wonderwall video.
Jay Darlington has performed on no fewer than 3 world tours with Oasis as keyboardist, and was also involved in the Indianapolis car accident that resulted in the cancellation of 3 shows in August 2002.
I believe they each should be included in some capaticy in the template, at the very least under "related articles". Its incorrect to state that the template is just for "official" members, as Starkey isn't an "official" member yet even, and has performed fewer shows than Darlington.Castlecraver 19:55, 29 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
Yet, again, I thik Starkey's chances of becoming official bandmember are far brighter than Darlington's. I think you should do an additional list of every third session man. You can include also Johhny Marr, Paul Weller, probably even Death in Vegas. Steve White also was in the band while Alan was suffering from tendonitis. I think you should grow up a little bit and start thinking. Elan Morin Tedronai 12:22, 30 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
I'm the one trying to have an honest discussion on the topic... not so sure what you mean by needing to grow up.
You're correct about Starkey's likelihood of becoming an official member. Would it be more acceptable to you to just make a new page titled "musicians who have performed with Oasis," and make it all-inclusive so that we can just include the official and former official members in the template?
Oh, and don't forget Terry Kirkbride. ;-P Castlecraver 13:58, 30 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Regardless of its name, this isn't a live album, it was a demo tape. Maybe it should go under the 'Related Articles' section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.70.23 (talk) 15:47, 29 September 2009 (UTC)Reply
At least you can separate between the previous members and the ones left when they declared they're 'officially disbanded', if that's what you get from those sources. Thks. Christian Liberty (talk) 18:08, 9 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Should Zak Starkey be include in the member section?
It's my opion he should. Though not part of the official Oasis lineup, being more or less a session musician technically, he was a fulltime member of the band from 2004 to 2008. In this period he couldn't sign with the band, cause he had other engagements. In this period he acted as a full band member, playing tours, appearing with the rest of the band on photos en videos and recording Don't Believe the Truth and Dig Out Your Soul. In 2008 he left Oasis for a life as a session musician.
Leaving Starkey out of the members box, would be strange, for a musician who played and recorded for five years with this band. Especially when the alternative is placing him with "related people" like producers and musical friends. An option would be to include a live personnel section, but that also doens't fully catch the role of Starkey in Oasis. Belsen (talk) 18:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
1) Zak Starkey was not a member of Oasis. You don't see Darryl Jones listed as a member of The Rolling Stones, and he's been their bass player since 1993. They have a "collaborators" section. I think that's a nicer way of doing things. It wouldn't be hard. Rename "Related People" "Musical Collaborators" and put any non-members down there. Then move the few non-musical people from there down to related articles 2) How come it lists the band as Noel and Liam? Didn't Oasis make Gem and Andy partners in the band, junior partners? Plus, I believe policy on Wikipedia is to list the last known/active line-up of a band, not the legal posessors of the name - if that were the case Black Sabbath would be listed as Tony Iommi and Ozzy Osbourne, and that'd just be weird. (Chill (talk) 10:13, 7 April 2011 (UTC))Reply
In both cases I think it's the best way to put it. Zak Starkey was more than a related musician or session musician. He acted as a band member, even though he never got up to the point of being an official member in the sense of being part of the Oasis company. If I cite from the Darryl Jones article: "In the manner of other tour and recording sidemen for the band, such as saxophonist Bobby Keys and keyboardist Chuck Leavell, Jones' stage movement and audience interaction is low-key and he generally wears understated apparel on stage." This is clearly different from Starkey's involvement in Oasis, who appeared with the band during press conferences, videos and recordings. About the names of Liam and Noel Gallagher at the top, and the other musicians below. Surely you can put Gem and Andy in the upper section, but should it be those two or Bonehead and Guigsy, who also spent years with the group. How about Tony McCarrol or Alan White... I think it's best to leave it to the Gallaghers in the upper box to leave all other participants equal. Belsen (talk) 18:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)Reply
