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Lead mentions it was the largest disturbance, aftermath section mentions it was one of the largest. Background section needs more info about the start of the Russian Revolution - failure in Russo-Japanese war needs to be mentioned in addition to the massacre of 22 January. --Doopdoop (talk) 21:32, 30 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Some more remaining issues. Consider mentioning worsening economic conditions before the insurrection. Casualties of May 1st 1905 demonstration in Łódź might also deserve a mention. Ethnic composition of insurrection casualties is also a relevant detail (Według raportów naczelnika żandarmerii powiatu łódzkiego zabito 151 cywilów - 55 Polaków, 79 Żydów i 17 Niemców ). Russian Duma was established after the events described in the article, yet it is mentioned in the background section.
Abbreviation PPS is not defined.
Aftermath section - consider moving Ostrowiec Republic sentence to the revolution in the Kingdom of Poland (1905-1907) article. May demonstration in Warsaw probably refers to the 1905, but is presented in the aftermath (should be in the background). Not really sure, but the establishment of Duma, boycott of the elections by PPS might be mentioned in the Aftermath section.
Wikipedia:MOSDEF requires an explanation of word "Duma". "Revolution of 1905 in Polish paintings" picture gallery probably belongs to the revolution in the Kingdom of Poland (1905-1907) article. If you leave these paintings here, please add English translations of picture names and for Masłowski painting provide a short description of what is depicted. --Doopdoop (talk) 21:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
One other thing, you may wish to reformat the citations from books to use page #'s, like we did for Battle of Arras (1917) Cheers, and good job on a difficult topic!Cam (Chat) 21:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
I would like to get your comment about those issues that you haven't adressed. I believe Duma was established in late 1905, so according to chronological order it should not be mentioned in the background section. What is your opinion about mentioning ethnic composition of insurgents? Could you check the date of the May demonstrations in Warsaw that are mentioned in the aftermath section (if it is 1905 it should go into background section, not into aftermath). --Doopdoop (talk) 22:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Regarding Duma, I don't have access to Urbankowski right now, but I believe what he meant is that while the Duma might not have yet existed, the plans and demands for it were well known (after all, it's not like it appeared out of thin air surprising everybody with the novelty of the idea in August 1905). Hence, National Democrats supported the idea of Polish representation in the Russian to-be-created parliamentary system, while the nationalist socialists of Piłsudski were much less interested in that idea.
I have no objections if somebody wants to add the ethnic composition of the fatalities, I do remember Davies citing it. That said, I would like to learn what is it based on - I have also seen much less precise estimates (such as the "over 200 fatalities" cited in the current article).
Are you OK with my latest edits? One source for the ethnic composition of the fatalities is [1]. --Doopdoop (talk) 19:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Yes; I am ok with those changes. Btw, I have finished expanding the revolution article, you may want to look over it.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted, as it meets all good article criteria. --Doopdoop (talk) 21:41, 10 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
In September 1905 Juliusz Karol Kunitzer, owner of the Heintzel & Kunitzer firm, was killed by two workers in the streets of Łódź.[1]
The politically-motivated assassination of a leading industrialist is hardly "irrelevant". It was organized by the PPS, obviously part of the insurrection. HerkusMonte (talk) 11:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
He is described as a prototype of a capitalist exploiter, who didn't care much for his employees and always paid less than other industrialists of Łódź did. HerkusMonte (talk) 18:42, 27 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
If we add this information the fact that he was infamous for both oppressive working conditions and cooperating with Russian forces needs to be mentioned as well.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 23:25, 27 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
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COMMENTS
So far I have the following comments. Ajh1492 (talk) 21:52, 14 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
Lede needs to be much more comprehensive wrt the article subject Y
Move the references out of the Lede into the appropriate section of the article Y
Isn't there an appropriate insurrection infobox template? Y
How did the Russo-Japanese War damage the economy of the Kingdom of Poland? Was it from the war itself or the peace that Teddy R. negotiated? [replied below]
Do you have a reference for "In the 19th century, Łódź had been a major Polish industrial center, heavily urbanized and industrialized, and a stronghold of the socialist movement."? Y
need lang-pl tag on "endecja" Y
Do you have any more detail on the murder of Jerzy Grabczyński any why it is considered a potential flashpoint? [replied below]
The picture caption states Anarcho-Communists, any relation to the Chernoe-Znamia groups founded in Bialystok in 1903? [will look into]
What was the affect on the relationship between Piłsudski's PPS and those loyal to Dmowski? [will look into]
Regarding Jerzy Grabczyński, I don't see anything else of any significance in the sources I can find.
Regarding Chernoe-Znamia, there were many groups like that in Poland and really, Europe. We need to improve an article on the anarchism in Poland.
The sources don't really discuss the effect on local groups, but their relation likely deteriorated. This is something better discussed at JP/RD/PPS/ND articles. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
I made some slight modifications with the images, added some links and other tweaks. Otherwise it's "Good". Ajh1492 (talk) 21:07, 29 June 2011 (UTC)Reply