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Greetings, there is a calculation error regarding the age of Augustus when he died or an error as to when he was born and/or died, because the page specifies he was born in 63 BC and that he died in 14 AD, and the page specifies he died at the age of 75, but 63+14=77, and so there is factual error on this page, because the stated age of death does not correspond to the states dates of birth and death, and thus must be researched and edited to reconcile this clear discrepancy. 2600:1700:EAE0:D780:BEDC:B968:A04A:A2CF (talk) 10:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
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98.228.137.44 (talk) 17:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Ifly6: You reverted an edit by User:GraziePrego that added archives to references, stating please don't archive sources for live links. it clutters the editor and makes long articles like these difficult to read
. I think the clutter description is subjective and I would strongly disagree, and regardless the utility gained by adding those links far outweighs any convenience gained by having less content in the editor. It also doesn't make the article difficult to read as it has no effect on the prose whatsoever. Even though the links are currently live, that often changes and often without being noticed even on FAs, creating a disservice for readers who wish to verify content or perhaps read more about the content and are unable to do so. There is a reason that templates like Template:Cite web have a parameter specifically for this, because adding archive links to sources is and should be encouraged per WP:ARCHIVEEARLY. I think the archives should be reinstated unless there is a compelling reason to omit them. While article size can become an issue, this article is nowhere near that point and the 6,435 bytes added by those links is not an issue in that regard. - Aoidh (talk) 23:47, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
WP:ARCHIVEEARLY is a how-to guide, not a recommendationI would say the wording there (
please consider pre-emptively adding...) is pretty solidly in recommendation territory, and though it is not a P&G page documents reflected usage of citations on Wikipedia that is itself cited in the Wikipedia:Citing sources guideline at WP:DEADREF. - Aoidh (talk) 22:19, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
archive dates postdating the access datesis not an error, it would be erroneous for them to suggest they match when no archive snapshot actually matches. That you see no benefit is a personal opinion and far from a consensus view on preemptive archival links on Wikipedia, something common enough that there is an entire parameter on every citation template specifically to facilitate their usage. If there are issues with individual citations those can be addressed, but that is not the concern you raised nor is it a surmountable problem, certainly not for the reasons given here. Do you have a policy or guideline-based reason for reverting the edit, or is it now merely an issue with the JSTOR and similar archival links that you're specifically seeing issues with, issues that can be fixed by simply omitting them when the edit is restored? - Aoidh (talk) 06:58, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply