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Latest comment: 3 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion
Nobel Prize's website says individuals connected to an organization awarded the Nobel Prize cannot claim to have personally won it. Is it then appropriate to say on this page that she's a Nobel laureate as a member on the panel?
It would seem that currently we say that She jointly received the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007 as a member of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which seems fine to me? It may be appropriate to move it farther down in the lead. signed, Rosguilltalk23:55, 9 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
She is definitely not a Nobel Prize winner, although her contributions to the IPCC can be mentioned. The IPCC has made this perfectly clear. [1] See the phrasing for Michael E. Mann, to whom this statement was apparently directed. -ProhibitOnions(T)07:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, it would be more accurate to say that I personally think the above, and would agree to use "Jewish person" over "Jew" signed, Rosguilltalk22:40, 4 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
@El C: Yes, it is what I said. The opposite of "awkward" in this context is "natural". I'm not going to revert again, because I don't know what the local rules are, but if you don't care, you should let someone change it back. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds01:46, 5 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 6 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Are there any people out there with sufficient interest, command of English, and, perhaps, understanding of Mexican culture and politics to take on the task of editing this article? Some of the sentences are quite unclear due to problems with grammar and construction. Ms. Sheinbaum is a very important figure now in the leadup to Mexican elections, but I simply don't have enough understanding of many of the events discussed to do effective editing in many places. Thanks! Hanamizu (talk) 19:03, 7 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
The AP source has los funcionarios encargados de demoler la barda también destruyeron parte de la estructura de la capilla. Thanks. I'll change the wording to that. Moscow Mule (talk) 03:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Here's the vote count. Yes, she looks unstoppable, but only 2% of the ballots have been counted. The electoral authorities haven't given any statements yet, and I've not seen any news outlets calling it. Moscow Mule (talk) 03:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
It looks like people are jumping the gun and going off the preliminary results:
Perhaps this was a correct objection at the time, but as of this writing RS appear to be reporting that she has indeed been elected president, and by a rather decisive margin too.[1]Not donesigned, Rosguilltalk12:50, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 1 month ago3 comments3 people in discussion
As Bulgaria did not join Triple Alliance before May 1941 and did not take part in the Holocaust after that until the End of WWII there is no basis for the phrasing that the family "escaped" the Holocaust. Her mother was already born in June 1941 in Mexico. All the links lead to just one article in a dubious jewish homepage that does not deliver any quotable source. And even that source talks of "persecution of Jews" and not "the Holocaust". 93.240.133.2 (talk) 07:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
They left the country so as to not become victims of the Holocaust and persecution. Its not a hard concept to grasp. The war was ongoing and it was not a safe time for Jewish people in Europe. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Here's a synopsis of what Wikipedia says in The Holocaust in Bulgaria: Bulgaria administered the deportation of over 15,000 Jews in areas it occupied; all but a handful were murdered by Germany at Treblinka. Jews in Bulgaria itself were saved from that fate due to internal opposition. They were still subject to economic and social restrictions, then forcibly confined in ghettos and labor camps, with their possessions seized. To say that Bulgaria "did not take part in the Holocaust" is quite wrong. Yitz711 (talk) 12:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
The article on him doesn't really say anything about his or his parents being Jewish, perhaps it's an area that should be expanded? It's hard to know without more data or references on this whether this is a technicality that he just used to gain the European citizenship after genealogical research on his family's history, or if it was always a known thing in his family. I think there is a difference between a "background" that might be several generations back and not known, and someone who actively has identified and grown up with that identity or familial history. There are plenty of people that have different cultural, religious, or ethnic backgrounds many generations back in their families of one type or another. Centerone (talk) 17:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 1 month ago2 comments2 people in discussion
The fact that she has a Jewish heritage seems to be overemphasized in the article. Is it relevant? Was it edited in by conspiracy theorists, (or by those who are uncomfortably Jew-focused given the recent middle east war), over time? Perhaps it deserves mentioning once in one sentence, or not at all. Unless it can be explained to me that it is relevant (for example was it a central part of her campaign that she herself emphasized this, and it is her ongoing emphasis as well)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newacademic90291 (talk • contribs) 05:55, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Maybe it was different at the time of your writing, but right now I only see four uses of the word "Jewish" in the body text. The first is at the end of the lead that she will be the first Jewish president of Mexico (valid use, "firsts" are almost always considered significant). The next two are about her Jewish heritage in the Early life section. The last is about her being the first Jewish Head of Government of Mexico City (again, significant per above). Even by the numbers I don't see any excessive emphasis, and the four uses all seem valid to me. Liu1126 (talk) 12:09, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 1 month ago6 comments5 people in discussion
Israel of course. Mexico now and Spain soon in 2026. Murcia city has a leaving politician who is going national .he's Jewish but not immigrant mhesfrom Jews in Spain for generations . 84.126.83.173 (talk) 13:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I consider her religion to be irrelevant when saying that she is the first Jew to be president, it is as if I were saying "Biden is the second Catholic president of the United States." Rafaelosornio (talk) 18:23, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Mexico is 90% Christian. Less than 1% of their population is Jewish. The US? Approximately 75% of the population is Christian (and in the statistics, who knows how many of the people who are tallied as atheists or agnostics or unaffiliated are for lack of a better term 'recovering Christians' or 'former Christians'.) Approximately 2% of the US population is Jewish. It's more notable and worthy of note within this context. Similarly, the cultural situation at the time when JFK was elected made him being the first Catholic was of note, however, the culture has changed and so nowadays it's not the same situation where Biden being Catholic is not as big of a deal as it was in JFK's time. Centerone (talk) 18:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I see your point, there seems to be an emphasis on Judaism and Jews with the war in the middle east going on that doesn't seem relevant. It should be included if you give more context to her Judaism. She has distanced her from her judaism seemingly not having any connections or relationships with the Jewish community in Mexico. Her distancing from the Jewish community, for personal gain, avoidance of a controversial issue, or any other reason could be an interesting article section worthy of being in her biography. That being said, it is difficult to find any resources on these topics, either because not a lot exist, or there has been a lot of work done to cover it up. MoisesM12 (talk) 00:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 1 month ago1 comment1 person in discussion
in the sections of early political career and head of government of Mexico City there seems to be an immense focus on the positive achievements of Sheinbaum and there hardly any mentions of controversies or mistakes. No candidate for Presidential elections reaches that point without a controversy. One example not mentioned is her support of AMLO in getting rid of the National Electoral Institute (INE) an institute independent of parties and government that ensures fair elections. MoisesM12 (talk) 00:27, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply