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Under "Health effects", it says very little reliable scientific evidence available at this time that drinking red wine, eating grapes, or following the grape diet.
The first two and possibly the third don't seem to have much if anything to do wth grape seed extract. Am I missing something? Chriswaterguy talk 11:52, 30 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
This long-held version states adequately the overall weak research existing on GSE. In this analysis, tables 1 and 3 show the design weaknesses of the underlying research, with high variability in subject numbers, dosing, polyphenol type, and duration. I suggest only a general statement on blood pressure from the original version that "the amounts were small (3–6 mmHg) and occurred only in obese people under age 50 with existing metabolic syndrome" is sufficient. The NIH summary states that research on blood pressure has been "conflicting", which indicates we are in a dubious state for sourcing.
The review on blood lipids is only an abstract, with the NIH summary giving caution that "The individual studies, however, were small in size, which could affect the interpretation of the results."
With only such low-quality research available, we shouldn't overstate and mislead general users about potential effects of GSE on blood pressure and lipids. The original version provided this cautious reflection from the NIH summary. The version revisedbyOmnibus gives a more favorable impression of GSE effects. Stronger WP:MEDASSESS sources would be needed, but do not exist in PubMed searches. Zefr (talk) 15:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply