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The chronology features links to ebooks... why are there no links to wikipedia articles on specific novels? Applebizzy (talk) 20:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
I was hoping for a lot more from this article. Specifically, was HR Haggard successful as a novelist in his time? What was his relationship with his work? I am impressed by how he manages to create what feel like very real fictional places, but to what extent are his places based on real sites that he visited while in Africa? He describes lots of fever, did he suffer from malaria? Cherrywood (talk)
This author has been suggested for inclusion in Category:Science fiction writers: which of his books gave rise to this suggestion? --Phil | Talk 08:32, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)
Haggard wrote a significant work on agriculture (agricultural economics). he was even knighted for his work on agriculture. In the Great Soviet Encyclopeida, this is what is covered in the article on him. Lenin mentioned his work. Something of this needs to be put into the article.Kdammers 10:19, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
In the "Chronology of works", "Montezuma's Daughter" is listed twice with different years (1893, 1899). Is that correct?
There is no mention of the version this man is best known as - except under his portrait. And there "H. Rider Haggard" is called his pseudonym. If you look at the Wik discussion of that word, you'll see that it isn't really an appropriate label in this case. Let's fix this up. Kdammers 09:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
HRH was important in popularizing lost worlds, but he was not the first to write of these, e.g., if I'm not mistaken, E. A. Poe preceded him. Kdammers 02:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
The wording used for what school he went to as a child is sort of... Odd. Did he go to the private school or the public one? I can't tell. ElectricTurahk 20:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
This article claims that a contrary example to colonialism in Haggard's writing is: "Having developed an intense mutual friendship with the three Englishmen who help him regain his throne, [the African king] accepts their advice and abolishes witch-hunts and arbitrary capital punishment." But that is precisely a colonialist stereotype and goal: the "enlightened" white men to whom the "native" becomes sycophantic by adopting their Western mores. This appears to be using an idiosyncratic, personal definition of "colonialism" and/or one that selectively chooses particular Western mores as inherently positive and arbitrarily non-colonialist. "Heroic" is not an antonym of "colonialist stereotype." None of the discussion about colonialism has any inline citations. Such references are necessary to establish the validity of this analysis, which currently reads like a personal essay, original research and/or an apologia for someone's favorite author. 76.23.157.102 (talk) 17:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
I suggest that this page be moved to H. Rider Haggard, the name by which he was known professionally. I see that there was brief discussion of this issue more than 2 years ago, and the page history indicates an attempt to move the page in the past, which led to an admin. protecting the page. The page move makes sense and is in keeping with Wiki policy and precedent. Any thoughts? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 16:14, 24 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
What's happened to the chronolgy of works - has it been deleted?
Restore please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.104.73 (talk) 20:15, 26 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
Haggard is cited as an influence on Burroughs. Where is the evidence for this? Others have suggested the more credible 'Gulliver on Mars' tale as a direct influence but as far as I can see there was no evidence that Burroughs even read Haggard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.233.30.229 (talk) 08:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
I have rehidden the see-also names, without context they are worthless. Why am I clicking on Alexandre Dumas, père? did he influence H. Rider Haggard? was H. Rider Haggard influenced by him? Then add them to the proper place in the infobox. Are they similar writers somehow? That is why we have categories. Without any context it is just a random list. I have no idea why I am going to Alexandre Dumas, père from this article. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:37, 25 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
The cache shows the novel "Brethren" (1904) was mentioned along with the appropriate link - as it should be in an encyclopaedic entry - and now it's nowhere to be found. What's going on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.182.153.107 (talk) 21:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)Reply
My Haggard biography has been out of print for many years but is now available on Kindle - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0053TRHOA. As the Product Description states: 'In this is new, revised and updated edition of his comprehensive biography of Rider Haggard, D.S. Higgins uses both the mass of previously unpublished material he unearthed and the evidence contained in Haggard’s sixty-nine novels to show that the best-selling author left much more for posterity than he would knowingly have revealed to his millions of readers. Sydney Higgins discovered the identity of the woman with whom Haggard fell in love when he was a teenager. Although the affair was unconsummated and both married other partners, he believed that their love was eternal and they would be reunited after death. This love that haunted Haggard throughout his life, combined with feelings of guilt and disgust at his early sexual encounters, led him to believe that it was the fire of sex that destroyed the otherwise untarnished beauty of pure love. It is this belief that powered his vivid description of the transformation scene in She where the ‘most beautiful woman in the world’ who had lived for an eternity withers and dies in the flames immediately prior to marrying the man she had always loved. Haggard, the ill-educated younger son of a blustering Norfolk Squire, was inspired by these secret inner feelings to write, in a golden five-year period that started when he was twenty-nine, five books that were the sensation of his age – King Solomon’s Mines, Allan Quatermain, Jess, She and Cleopatra. The last, he dedicated to his mother whom he always loved deeply and appears to have written to please her. Shortly after Cleopatra was published, she died. A few weeks later, Haggard finished Nada the Lily and that too was justifiably a great success. He was at the height of his success and at an age when many writers had just begun their careers but with his mother’s death he seemed to lose his inspiration and his obsession to write. He did not start another book for sixteen months. During the next twelve years, he did write another twenty-five novels but much time and effort were spent producing non-fiction books that are now all but forgotten although one at least, A Farmer’s Year is a charming and illuminating literary gem. For the rest of his life, writing novels became a way of earning money and his interests and quest for success were concentrated on agricultural research, politics, business and public service." With just over 150,000 words, this is a very comprehensive biography that I hope you will enjoy. D.S.Higgins. Framlingham (talk) 16:04, 5 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
This paragraph is at best only tangentially defensible, as nothing in it directly cites established belief that *Haggard* directly contributed to children's literature. I would suggest it is a combination of unsubstantiated personal opinion and original research. It is also (for the value it delivers) long-winded and convoluted.
One thing that is simply out and out wrong, however, is the opening sentence: "Before the 19th century, children’s literature did not exist". The recently featured article on Sarah Trimmer discusses a reviewer of children's literature in the 18th century; the Wikipedia page on children's literature suggests the 16th century as the starting point for the genre. Winterbadger (talk) 14:06, 8 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
Haggard is also the author of "A history of the Transvaal": https://archive.org/details/historyoftransva00hagguoft --197.228.55.161 (talk) 10:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
OnRider Haggard's bibliography page, he's described as being "an adjutant of the Pretoria Horse". I've never heard the term, and an internet search just throws up a diversity of South African riding stables. The reference appears to be from his obituary in The Times of London, published the day after his death: does anyone have access to a copy of this, or to a version archived online, to see if there's any detail as to what this role entailed? Alternatively, does anyone have the foggiest idea what a "Pretoria Horse" actually is? ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 20:00, 7 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
There are several articles linking on "H._Rider_Haggard#Ayesha_series" which someone has melted into the general article without fixing the links. IMHO that series actually might be worth its own passage and subtitle, yet currently the discussion of Haggard's actual work has been cut so short that there is no place for it. Anyway, the link situation could be improved. --Oop (talk) 13:06, 18 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
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The biography of Edgar Rice Burroughs by John Taliaferro says Burroughs' character of La in the 1913 novel The Return of Tarzan, is very similar to the titualr heroine of Haggard's 1887 novel She: A History of Adventure:
"Fairest of all is La, the high priestess, who is clearly derivative of Ayesha, the femme fatale of H. Rider Haggard's She. "
(Quoted in John Taliaferro, Tarzan forever : the life of Edgar Rice Burroughs, creator of Tarzan. New York : Scribner, 1999. (p.95) ISBN 9780684833590 ). So while I'm not aware of any direct link, the characters are quite similar. While there would have been a few "white queen of a lost civilisation" novels published between 1887 and 1913, Haggard's novel was a worldwide bestseller and seems like the most likely influence on the Burroughs character. That said, if anyone knows of another possible source for the ERB character than Haggard, it would interesting to read about it.
As for Haggard influencing Robert E. Howard, REH biographer Rusty Burke has pointed out that Howard owned three of Haggard's books, and also referred to to Haggard in a 1932 letter to H. P. Lovecraft as "one of my favourite writers". [1]. 188.141.25.160 (talk) 19:45, 1 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
Something should be said about his friendship with Kipling. They seem to have been thought of as a pair. There was a witty poem by, I think, JK Stephen, looking forward to a time
"When the Rudyards cease from kipling
And the Haggards ride no more."
Kipling told Haggard that they would long be haunted by this. I'll try to solidify this note. Seadowns (talk) 00:13, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
@The Nineteenth Century: two points. a) I entirely agree with the substance of this latest edit. Guess what, this is exactly how we address such multi-facetted issues on WP - we summarize published sources that make conflicting statements, and present them in a duly balanced manner. Now we have verifiable information on both interpretations; all good. b) If you consider your mission here to be upholding or embellishing a reputation, or the memory of a "great man", please think again. WP is not the place for this activity, and editing with this type of agenda calls into question your capacity for contributing to a neutral encyclopedic work. This is not the place for hagiography, and railing against wokeness or "disrespect" is not going to make anyone trust your edits. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@JohnMizuki: please discuss these things on the article's talk page, not on editor's talk pages; and don't just revert without discussion.
Copied from my talk page:
I saw you removed part of the text quoting Rider Haggard on the topic of race. It's not "original research" nor my own opinion: it is the author himself talking on the topic of hierarchies among races or cultures. I only cited one paragraph but he makes the same point several times in the same book. "No original research" is to be used for "facts, allegations, and ideas for which no reliable, published source exists". The book written by the very author the article is about should be considered, without doubt, a valid source. ( JohnMizuki (talk) 12:47, 12 June 2024 (UTC) )Reply