Talk:Haijin
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Useless image
editI removed the image on the page, as it appears to have no purpose other than showing the Chinese characters, which are already visible in the article. Perhaps an image that shows the actual document in question would be more useful here, if it could be obtained. BogdanM02 03:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Ethnicity
editElaborated on ethnicity - Chinese is not an ethnicity. The dominant ethnic group is the Han. Intranetusa (talk) 02:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- So dominant, in fact, that they are called... Chinese. — LlywelynII 02:15, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Chinese text for insertion
editChinese text to be translated
editOpen ports
editChina was never completely closed. The article should mention the few ports that were open, such as Xiamen and Guangdong and the dates for each. — LlywelynII 02:15, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Dates of Great Clearance
editThe dates of start and end of the Great Clearance (aka. Frontier Shift) given in this article (1655-1684) do not match the ones, more likely, given in the Great Clearance article: 1661-1669. This is also inconsistent with other information given in this Haijin article. I have therefore included "dubious" tags in this article. Please remove them when this issue is solved. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 15:52, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Who was subject to taxation?
editThis quote is cited but the source is offline and the missing word is rather important...
- In 1685 a{{what?|date=January 2015}} were made subject to the ''"Taxation Rules for Sea Trade"'' as drafted by Yiergetu.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Li |first1=Qingxin |last2=Wang |first2=William W |title=Maritime silk road |trans_title=五洲传播出版社, ''Hai shang si chou zhi lu'' |year=2006 |publisher=China Intercontinental Press |location=Beijing, China |language=English|isbn=978-7-5085-0932-7 |oclc=180191537}}</ref>
— LlywelynII 14:41, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Dating relocation
editThis date is much earlier than the other sources. It may be right but the earlier policy was probably fairly limited and should be explained in greater detail to differentiate it from the Kangxi policy:
- From 1652 onwards, the Qing court began ordering populations along the entire southern coast to be forcibly relocated inland, to stop them from giving aid and comfort to the enemy through trade. Faced with an enemy in inaccessible areas along the coast, the Qing chose to take the non-state spaces of the littoral to their logical extreme by creating a sanitary cordon of walls and watchtowers between the people and the sea. All coastal navigation and trade was banned, but the effect of the prohibitions and relocations was simply to make the Zheng base in Xiamen an even bigger centre for smuggling trade, with relocated communities now engaging in overland smuggling to Xiamen in order to sustain themselves.|sign=Yang Shao-yun|source=Water Worlds : Piracy and Littoral Societies as Non-State Spaces in Late Imperial South China<ref>[http://www.chinahistoryinfo.com/index.php?id=37,118,0,0,1,0 Water Worlds : Piracy and Littoral Societies as Non-State Spaces in Late Imperial South China]</ref>
— LlywelynII 14:42, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
North Africa?
editIs the line mentioning "Chinese trade within Asia and North Africa continued." in the Background section correct? 2804:4B0:324:1700:112D:B18C:4ADA:7DCF (talk) 07:38, 17 September 2021 (UTC)