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Latest comment: 7 years ago by DarthBotto in topic GA Review
 


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This review is transcluded from Talk:Kelli Presley/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: DarthBotto (talk · contribs) 22:36, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply


Greetings; I will be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, to see if it is suitable for promotion at this juncture. Within a few hours' time, I will notifying the nominator about my initial findings. DARTHBOTTO talkcont 22:36, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

I have reviewed the page in its current state. It significantly fails most of the criteria at this stage and I will upgrade it to a C-Class article, but the nominator has the chance to address this page, so I will not call it an immediate failure. DARTHBOTTO talkcont 03:45, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

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1. Well written: The prose describing this character's appearances is unsatisfactory and without flow. The spelling and grammar of the article are dubious, as well, and must be attended to. Additionally, it is impossible for the content to be concise when there is information missing and skirted over in areas like the regards for the alternate ending(s).

2. Verifiable with no original research: While much of the article is verifiable, a large portion of the sources are unreliable, beyond the most glaring ones concerning the databases like IMDb and Fandango. Furthermore, there are portions, specifically in the development section, that are original research and not adequate for inclusion, let alone to describe a process that cannot be inferred from a screenplay.

3. Broad in its coverage: The development section hinders this category, as it immediately runs off on a tangent not related to development and never delivers on the purpose of the section. Without that critical information, this article can serve little more purpose than a regurgitation of the content from the Black Christmas page.

4. Neutral: The page does justice by not leaning one way or another. I would say the editors, specifically the nominator, have done a fine job of keeping the neutrality level.

5. Stable: This is hard to determine, as this article went untouched for years, but then saw a spurt of attention from the nominator. Thankfully, there have been no edit wars to be had.

6. Illustrated: The performer, Katie Cassidy, is shown in an appropriate location, so I feel as though the Good Article criteria is fulfilled in this regard.

@DARTHBOTTO Alright, I've followed your instructions and made the necessary changes to the article. Unfortunately, I couldn't find much information about the development of the character so I renamed the section to simply "Casting and creation" instead. If the article still needs further improvements I'll be happy to do them. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 14:42, 6 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

@PanagiotisZois: You have done very well and you are close. However, you will need to find an alternative to that reference that utilizes the screenplay, as that is original research. If you can find an alternative to that, I'll pass this GAN. DARTHBOTTO talkcont 20:35, 6 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
@DarthBotto: Sadly, I could not find a scource which discusses the script and how it compares to the finished movie. I could just remove it. Unless there's an alternative way to using the script in the article. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 00:20, 7 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
@PanagiotisZois: The issue is that it's you interpreting the final character as she is compared to what's described in the raw script, which is the very definition of original research. Is there not any news source or interview that details how she was originally intended to be, as a character? DARTHBOTTO talkcont 00:25, 7 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
@DarthBotto: None that I could find. To be honest, finding any source of information regarding the development of Black Christmas is pretty hard in general. :/ Maybe in the future, if I buy the DVD and watch the two documentaries that are present there I could cite them, if they offer any information regarding the character's development. Edit: I removed it. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 00:31, 7 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
@PanagiotisZois: Alright. You certainly did choose a difficult page and although it has been an uphill battle, with most everything in shambles at the start, I believe it now has what is necessary to be re-classified as a Good Article. Congratulations; it's a pass:   DARTHBOTTO talkcont 00:43, 7 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

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