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I removed Douglas Adams from the influenced list, because I see no way that he could be, and there is no citation. 1) Douglas Adams was nearly the same exact age as Vonnegut and much of his work was published around the same time, 2) Douglas Adams' humor was Brittish, where as Vonnegut's is American. Adams used humor in an uplifting funny way, where as Vonnegut's humor was bleak, black comedy, and was quite different from Adams.
The only reason I see that Adams was listed as being influenced by Vonnegut was because 1) They both employed humor, 2) Adams is a science-fiction writer and much of Vonnegut's work had a Sci-Fi lean/bent towards it.
Thus why I removed Adams from being influenced by Vonnegut. The Rypcord. 16:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
There's a bit of vandalism on this page, please revert —Preceding unsigned comment added by TehNomad (talk • contribs) 23:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Much of the writing on this page consists of very subjective critiques and summaries. Some of these are general and some very specific, but most are perhaps out-of-bounds in terms of what goes into an encyclopedia. Some exposition and examination of Vonnegut's life and work is appropriate, but currently there is no sense of organization or authority. Would someone with more experience and a better knowledge of Vonnegut than I please bring this issue to her attention? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.130.29.0 (talk) 18:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
The Early Years section makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.Mindian (talk) 14:41, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't Billy Pilgrim meet Vonnegut in the Slaughterhouse-Five book or something? If so, can we add it to the cameo section? Sorry if the request has been raised before. Ryan4314 (talk) 00:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
You may be getting mixed up with 'Breakfast of Champions'. At the end of that Book Kilgor Trout meets with K.V. In 'Happy Birthday Wanda June' K.V. also appears. I think he also appears in 'Between Time and Timbuktu'.Johnwrd (talk) 03:34, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Vonnegut 'sort of' appears in Slaugherhouse 5. There's a scene in which Billy Pilgrim overhears an American in the latrine saying something to the effect that he's excreted everything but his brains. They don't actually meet, IIRC. Sorry, I don't have the novel in front of me, and it would take forever to find the passage anyway. In any case, it probably doesn't belong in the Cameos section, as the rest of the cameos involve KV portraying himself in film or TV. Statyk (talk) 20:00, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Should we add mention of the collection of Vonnegut's works, Armageddon in Retrospect, that is due out April 1 (without any trace of irony for the date choice)? [2] Of course, it should go on the complete list of his works, but should it also be added here? I don't know much about it yet, except that it exists. Edhubbard (talk) 18:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
There is a mistake in "It will be a collection of short stories never before published, including 2BRO2B, and many more." 2BRO2B was published in The Wizards of Odd in 1996. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LenkaSt (talk • contribs) 10:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Mr. Vonnegut's name is given as "Kurt Vonnegut, Jr." at the head of this article. I propose that this article be moved to Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. Any objections?
Webbbbbbber (talk) 21:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Vonnegut did not drop the "Jr." from his name until the 1980s--after the publication of Breakfast of Champions, the cover of which clearly shows his by-line as "Kurt Vonnegut, Jr."72.85.48.36 (talk) 20:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Kurt Vonnegut Jr. dropped the Jr. when his father Kurt Vonnegut Sr. passed away ie. died. This I am 97.3% sure is correct. My source is Kilgor Trout who crashed on my couch, temporarily, after the death of Kurt. This really happened, which eludes to power of Vonnegut's writing, and the abbility of transcendental experience among those readers who came to him by way of Tralfamador.beny (talk) 21:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does this article have too many links to other wikipedia articles? I removed the one to cockroaches, but there are many many more to things that have nothing to do with Kurt Vonnegut. I think that goes against wikipedia's standards. If the readers do not know what cockroaches are, they can find the article themselves later. There are more, linking to suicide, pneumonia, biochemistry, frostbite, public relations, divorce, cancer, psychotic, saint, traumatic, brain injuries, time travel, molecules, melting point, Playboy, excerpt, posthumously, 2004, chimpanzees, race, short story, the Grand Canyon, cameo, rumor, and commencement speech. Not one of these has anything important about Kurt Vonnegut. I vote we delete all these links to articles. ForgetfulDoryFish (talk) 10:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
What exactly is the notability limit for pop culture references? There are some listed that I don't see as needing to be there. What if we were to remove items such as those and then simply place them in their respective articles instead? -- Qaddosh|talk|contribs 05:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
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"Kurt Vonnegut was born to fourth-generation German-American parents (Kurt Vonnegut, Sr., and Edith née Lieber), son and grandson in the Indianapolis firm Vonnegut & Bohn.[3], where he served as assistant managing editor and associate editor for the student newspaper, the Cornell Daily Sun, and majored in Chemistry" well, what is wrong with this? The Cornell Daily Sun is a newspaper at Cornell which is in Ithaca, New York and not Indianapolis and as far as I can tell other than having been born in Indy he didnt have much to do with it. But I guess that is enough to be included in the project indianapolis but more important were his connections to upstate ny, it really should be included in project new york since that is where he went to college, lived in his adult life, and set kilgore trout in (fictional ilium based on the real troy, ny and then later set in the real place of cohoes, ny) 24.182.142.254 (talk) 01:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
But Vonnegut does make frequent reference to being from Indianapolis and being a Hoosier in his essays. He clearly identifies himself with the place. By comparison, David Letterman has been in NY a long time also, but constantly reminds viewers he is from Indiana. Stevewunder (talk) 01:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
In the World War II section, the article cites Slaughterhouse-Five a few sentences before introducing it as a novel detailing Vonnegut's experiences in the war. This citation before introducing the book is unclear because of the lack of a previous general description of it, and it causes the later introduction to seem awkward. The World War II section could be reorganized; maybe it could start with the book as a base for the information.72.66.134.127 (talk) 03:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
I improved the translation, mostly by removing the barbaric word "appropriate." 71.194.38.54 (talk) 09:44, 16 January 2010 (UTC)Larry Siegel
Has anyone else noticed that most of the fictional characters created by kurt vonnegut consist of 12 characters? not counting spaces Mr. Rosewater-12 Billy Pilgrim-12 Monica Pepper-12 Zoltan Pepper-12 Kurt Vonnegut himself-12 Kilgore Trout-12 Dwayne Hoover-12 Wayne Hoogler-12 Dudley Prince-12 Kimberly Wang-12 Julian Castle-12 Philip Castle-12 Claire Minton-12
and more! >_>
This is probably just me being insane as usual, but i had to share what i found O.o
i myself often count characters in phrases and names and 12 is one of my favorite numbers, was this strange 12 letter naming system ever mentioned? This is driving me insane xD —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zackypoohs (talk • contribs) 21:21, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
American Tax Resisters? Really? Maybe I should remove that one until further notice. 74.78.118.77 (talk) 21:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if it's notable or not, but Vonnegut appears (namelessly) in the Niven/Pournelle book "Inferno". http://www.math.nyu.edu/phd_students/campbelm/stuff/mywords/dante.html has more info on it. Rmd1023 (talk) 03:40, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
If you have an opinion, please make it known: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 September 7#Vonnegut.
There is also a related discussion about the disambiguation page: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vonnegut (disambiguation)
Cheers, older ≠ wiser 22:54, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
This is a good speech it tells u some stuff that are true u will miss u friends and your family, for example my grandfather he was like my dad since i didn't have one that speech and song reminds me of him and my friends that had to leave because of the economy. He was one of the greatest man ever to write a speech like this this is almost like Barrack Obama, and if u don't agree its because u haven't though about it so what i would do is think of your parents when they pass away how would u feel good or bad then think of who took care of u most of the time think of what u could have done before some one close to you left like a friend. A friend is like part of your Family. This is the person who you think about and talk about your feelings.Then think what would u do with out those friends to support you to help you through difficult times in your life this a great thing to talk about and to think about Reply me if u ever think this is an idea.
Edgard--------^_^
Link is to the song/speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfq_A8nXMsQ&NR=1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.51.79.172 (talk) 02:39, 2 October 2009 (UTC) Edgard
Sorry I should have given this reference in the beginning. "Maharishi Mahesh Yogi" The Telegraph (February 7, 2008)-- — Kbob • Talk • 18:02, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Would it be poor form to add "So it goes." to the end of the Death section? It's a little un-encyclopedic, but not obtrusively so. I think it would be a nice touch to the article. Goodbye Galaxy (talk) 15:27, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Could somebody clarify this? It could mean either his last novel, that last book published before his death, or the most recent book published posthumously. It's not at all clear. Zazaban (talk) 00:04, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
It's here again. Why get all prissy and delete it? Why not just leave it? What would Kurt say? Give me one good reason why it should not stay. And no crap about how this is Wikipedia, because THIS IS WIKIPEDIA! Fuck Encyclopedia Britannica, this is wikipedia. Gandydancer (talk) 04:49, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Maybe it can be added in by finding some encyclopedic way to add it? As referenced in the Slaughterhouse-Five article.. "The story continually employs the refrain So it goes. when death, dying, and mortality occur, as a narrative transition to another subject, as a memento mori, as comic relief, and to explain the unexplained." Centerone (talk) 02:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't think he should be categorized as German-American by nationality. By ethnicity, yes, but his grandfather was a native-born American, isn't three generations enough to be considered an American, period? Again, I'm not saying he wasn't German in any way, but it's ancestry rather than nationality. --99.249.18.156 (talk) 01:34, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/20/us/20vonnegut.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=a23 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.225.34.159 (talk) 06:29, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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Someone who appears to be Kurt Vonnegut is featured briefly in Bob Dylan's music video "Has Anybody seen My Love?". That can be viewed on Youtube. Can it be confirmed whether or not that's Kurt playing the harmonica for a moment nearly midway through the video? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Wolk (talk • contribs) 01:56, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I believe Kurt Vonnegut appeared in the 2002 or 2003 in a Nissan Murano commercial that aired on Canadian television. The slogan was for your on road adventures. In the commercial a man goes out to the country and stops at a used book store and finds an original edition Breakfast of Champions. While waiting in line he realizes the man in front of him is Kurt Vonnegut who signs the book for him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott Howard 7 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Please mention the "Ambrosia" (band) connection and "Cat's Cradle" and the letter Kurt wrote praising the song "Nice, Nice, Very Nice." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.83.56.110 (talk) 15:59, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
As it stands, the introduction to this article states that Vonnegut was a preeminent humanist; however even the cited NY Times obituary makes no mention of those beliefs...immediate deletion of this part of the intro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.11.54.147 (talk) 16:49, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
He was honorary president of the American Humanist Association... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.183.59.246 (talk) 22:50, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
The section on Vonnegut's WWII experiences states that he was "repatriated" by the Soviet Red Army. Because the verb "repatriate" means "to be returned to one's country of origin" (see http://m-w.com/dictionary/repatriate ) and which in this case is wrong (since he was freed from imprisonment but not sent to the USA by the Soviet Union), I changed this to "liberated." However, my change was undone because it did not adhere to "neutrality in the subject of Kurt Vonnegut." What does that mean? I simply made a better word choice here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexlange (talk • contribs) 00:05, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
A "citation needed" tag appeared after this blurb in the Appearances section: "Vonnegut appeared as part of the Enron 'Why' advertising campaign." I looked for a citation, but only found instances of Vonnegut excoriating Enron--in his Playboy interview, for example. Accordingly, I have removed the unsupported bullet point. It can be added again with a valid citation if one exists--but for now it just looked like the article had been vandalized in detriment to the character of the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pulsadinura (talk • contribs) 23:34, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
This edit summary isn't in line with WP:LEAD. The lead section of an article should serve as a full summary of it and for an established article should likely be several paragraphs long. I'll be re-tagging this. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 08:18, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I just thought this talk about editing Vonnegut suited much better here than at my user talk site. -- Justus Nussbaum (talk) 14:58, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Kurt Vonnegut wrote the following amazing letter. Should this be included? - 114.76.227.0 (talk) 22:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
I remember reading about a reference to GPI or general paralysis of the insane in one of Kurts books. Then after reading about the role of the Substantia Nigra in motor function, and specifically that the Globus Palidus external is involved with involuntary movement and the Globus Palidus internal is involved with voluntary movements. When was this named the GPi and its function understood? Was Kurt aware of this when he wrote, and in fact is GPI a reference to the GPi??
come on wiki, someone out there must have more information ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.101.100.14 (talk) 09:16, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
This 1973 letter by Vonnegut contains some information not in the article:
I don't see any of this mentioned in this Wiki article, so I thought I'd post that here. Softlavender (talk) 17:51, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
It might be wise to list several recurring themes in his books -- most importantly, the recounting of his son's death through decapitation in Sweden after desertion from Vietnam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignatiusantioch (talk • contribs) 6 July 2007
Article stated that both Kurt and the elder Kurt attended Cornell. However, Kurt Sr. was an MIT BS in architecture, class of 1908, as was his father, Bernard Vonnegut Sr.. Kurt Sr. also atteneded the American School in Strasburg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James Russiello (talk • contribs) 28 February 2010
Last night I removed the last paragraph under the religious paragraph. It has since occurred to me that I probably should've discussed the removal here before doing it. So here is a justification of what I did:
The paragraph called Vonnegut's views on religion "unconventional and nuanced" without citation. I know nothing "unconventional" or "nuanced" about secular humanism, atheism, agnosticism, etc. It went on to call him an "ardent admirer" of Jesus. The "ardent" is unnecessary and unsupported, though the "admirer" part holds for certain aspects of Jesus's philosophy, which were cited. This does not suffice to qualify him as an "admirer" of Jesus, but only those statements made on the Sermon on the Mount which were cited. I moved this part to a more appropriate paragraph in the section. The paragraph then said that "while he often identified himself as an agnostic or atheist, he also frequently spoke of God." His atheism and agnosticism were already mentioned several times in the section, so this information was superfluous. Further, his "frequent" speaking of God seems irrelevant, not to mention poorly cited. In fact, the article cited consists of the interviewer asking him about religion; in contributes nothing to the claim that he "frequently spoke of God" himself, though I don't personally deny the claim -- it just doesn't seem appropriate, and is too vague. After all, "God" is one of the most frequently discussed topics by our species. The paragraph continued: "Despite describing freethought, humanism and agnosticism as his "ancestral religion," and despite being a Unitarian, he also spoke of himself as being irreligious." This, too, was redundant information. The very same statements were made only two paragraphs before. Moreover, his being "irreligious" is synonymous with the aforementioned agnosticism, freethinking, etc.
I hope this offers a good justification for the removal of the paragraph and the new placement of the relevant, cited comment about Jesus. Wiki.correct.1 (talk) 22:55, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
The writing career section says that ice nine is a recurring idea. Where does it appear besides in Cat's Cradle? Also the analysis of what ice nine represents is unsourced original research. Ashmoo 13:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
It is claimed that "Report on the Barnhouse Effect" was his first short story published, in 1950. I need to research it, but I'm pretty sure he published in the late 40's. My recollection is that he was able to quit his "nightmare fucking job" (as described in a letter to his father) at GE to make a living as a short story writer, and that by the time Player Piano was published he made less money on it than he had on his first short story. (in the late 40's you could make a very good living publishing short stories in popular magazines -- and I believe this is what Vonnegut did.) Again, I do need to find the citations before I change anything, but if anyone else already knows the relevant sources it would be useful.
Lecturer: I also think it is relevant that Vonnegut spent years on the college lecture circuit. He says somewhere "You can make more money from speaking at a half-broke college than writing the greatest short story in the world." A comparison with his idol Twain could be made in this respect, as Twain made a fortune on the lecture circuit. Stevewunder (talk) 01:02, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
When discussing Harrison Bergeron, egalitarianism seems to be the incorrect description, specifically when this is contrasted with statism, which more correctly describes the story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.112.101.73 (talk) 19:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Egalitarianism, of an extreme sort enforced by a state, seems to be an exactly correct description in regard to Harrison Bergeron. Why else cripple people to deprive them of natural abilities and talent in such specific ways? This story takes egalitarianism beyond the usual meaning of making people equal in legal rights, personal material wealth, and social status to the absurd point of making them literally equal in their persons as well.Jszigeti (talk) 21:30, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Vonnegut's art was extremely important to him, and to how he understood himself even though he was of course known as a writer. The article ought to have a reasonable amount of material on his art and how he viewed it. The paragraph about his exhibition in 1980 is extremely well sourced with 3 separate newspaper accounts, as well as two catalogues of university library document collections.
As to the library collections, although this should hardly matter, it is worth pointing out that I am not making any original claims as to the documents in those collections. I am citing those University libraries' claims about the nature of those documents. In effect, therefore, those catalogues are secondary sources and not primary sources.
Furthermore, even if somehow those were not acceptable sources because someone considers them to be "primary," they are not necessary to any of the content for which they are cited. So why, therefore, would someone delete all the content while complaining that sources which are entirely dispensible are unacceptable sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chicago57th (talk • contribs) 02:28, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
The article states
I don't recall ice-nine being mentioned anywhere except in Cat's Cradle, so I don't think this is right. Herostratus (talk) 03:39, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
The New York Times obituary for Kurt Vonnegut, Novelist Who Caught the Imagination of His Age, Is Dead at 84 from April 12, 2007 contains more than one obituary within the obituary, quoted from Vonnegut's novels, as follow
In the section of the Kurt Vonnegut Wikipedia article that immediately follows the line about his death you can find this line "Vonnegut's well-known phrase "so it goes," used ironically in reference to death, also originated in "Slaughterhouse-Five". "Its combination of simplicity, irony, and rue is very much in the Vonnegut vein." and THAT line is from the Kurt Vonnegut obit from the Boston Globe.
The Kurt Vonnegut Wikipedia article is diminished and flat WITHOUT 'and so it goes' as a comment on his death - and even the manner of his death - it acknowledges the man, his work, and his outlook. It is especially appropriate considering that this author, who surived the fire-bombing of Dresden (as a prisoner of war) in which over 100,000 persons died in a single night - should come to his end as prosaically as falling down the stairs. It occurs to me that a good hook for DYK might be 'Did you know the phrase "and so it goes" is used more than 100 times in the novel "Slaughterhouse-Five" by Kurt Vonnegut (this for the Wikipedia article Slaughterhouse-Five. I really do think the phrase enriches the bio article. Read the two Wikipedia articles Kurt Vonnegut and Slaughterhouse-Five plus the NTY and Boston Globe obits and see if you don't agree. And better yet, read "Slaughterhouse-Five". Neonorange (talk) 21:01, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Recently a lot of stuff was removed, while other things were left, there didn't seem to be much in the way of reasoning why one thing would be important while the other wasn't. I reverted the edit with the thought that this should be discussed and "reformatted" (as suggested) rather than just deleted. I will include the text below, feel free to discuss them entry by entry and suggest ways to re-work the section(s). Centerone (talk) 22:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
From the page:
... Centerone (talk) 22:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
The boxout lists Vonnegut as receiving the Prisoner of War Medal, but I'm not sure that was ever the case. Though he certainly qualifies for a retroactive award, I can't find evidence that he ever applied for it or collected it. The Kurt Vonnegut Memorial Library displays awards that include his Purple Heart and ribbon bar (to be precise, a couple of ribbon bars, some of which show duplicates and so were probably worn at different times) and it doesn't feature the POWM. Can anyone confirm (or deny) the award?
Furthermore, it seems unusual to me that the European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign ribbon displayed in the Library has three service stars, denoting four separate campaigns. As far as I can tell, Vonnegut would've qualified for two or maybe three at most (Ardennes-Alsace, Central Europe and perhaps Rhineland). Could there be an error in the ribbon's presentation, or am I in error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by StoneColdCrazy (talk • contribs) 22:52, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Wasn't there a photo in place before that depicted him as he best known at the peak of his career? What purpose is served by replacing it with a picture taken before he even went to Dresden? I suggest restoring the previous one, unless there were intractable copyright issues, and incorporating others later on in the article as appropriate. Jszigeti (talk) 17:43, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Kurt was from the US. He is not 'american'. 'American' can include Canadians, Guatemalans, Brazilians, Colombians... Isn't it enough to have co-opted the entire western hemisphere? Do you have to steal their national identity as well?
Hi-ho. It occurs to me that the Tributes section is rather bloated with trivial entries, mainly a bunch of references to his work in rock and pop music. I would like to propose that each of these mentions be moved to the individual pages for the specific works referenced for each entry, i.e. if a bunch of post-hardcore bands referenced "The Euphio Question," then that will be mentioned at the Welcome to the Monkey House article, rather than here.
Many of the pages for Vonnegut's individual novels/short stories include a fair amount of such pop culture cruft, and that's fine, I suppose. I can't really see why some references are elevated to being mentioned here at the author's article...
But it would be a fairly major reduction for the section. Here's what I'm thinking could be easily moved:
Anyway, I'd like to hear if there are any objections. I'll go ahead with this in about a week if it doesn't seem too controversial. And, for the record, I wasn't the one to add the "In Popular Culture" problem template, though I do agree with it. Antepenultimate (talk) 03:10, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
This page is under attack by Redanalsword who thinks replacing the photo of Vonnegut with trash is funny. I rolled back five such demonstrations of creativity and put a warning on User_talk:Redanalsword where two previous warnings appeared. Ornithikos (talk) 19:14, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Ceradon, regarding the quote box in the Religion section, could you double-check the "Jesus' " you have? I don't have a copy of the novel, but Todd E. Davis in Kurt Vonnegut's Crusade has it as "Jesus's " in quoting that line. (p. 33)--Wehwalt (talk) 22:56, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
"A writer, painter, and self-identified little sister, she raised three kids and thinks of herself as normal." [3] b. 1957, married since 1982, children: Max, Ezra and Nellie. [4] "Ms. Vonnegut, who has been married to Scott Prior for 30 years."[5], 11/20/12 --87.153.123.164 (talk) 03:01, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Re the recent revert of my edit. It was just that I have never seen a list this long before and found it visually offensive (clutter). Sorry if I over-reacted. But I must admit I hate categories like this: "American male writers". Why it is needed I don't know, other than as a petty male response to feminist arguments about how women writers are neglected. Rwood128 (talk) 20:28, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
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FYI, new 2016 edition of The Vonnegut Encyclopedia by Marc Leeds. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 02:12, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
kurt vonnegut is one of the best american authors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.38.237.34 (talk) 18:46, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Kurt VonnegutJr. died of a traumatic brain injury. After a fall on his new york brownstone ( aka his house ). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexanderctheboss (talk • contribs) 18:53, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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