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Does this article benefit in any way from two rather negative reviews from Robert Christgau? I removed one but it was quickly restored. Aside from the multiple Christgau reviews, the "Professional ratings" section contains six other reviews, more than enough in my opinion. Why do we need two almost identical reviews from the same reviewer? One is enough. SolarFlash (talk) 14:16, 22 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
The August 1971 release is supported by the 1994 book The Great Rock Discography. That book is immune to the Woozle effect because it was printed before Wikipedia, and is considered more reliable than modern digital sources.
The very first version of this Wikipedia page was posted in March 2003, and it said August 1971. In June 2005, an IP editor changed August to July without any supporting source.[2] A year later, some dude named ShogunMaximus added "21" to make July 21, 1971, without a supporting source.[3] So the page has been wrong for that length of time.
The Woozle effect is proved by AllMusic who said August 1971[4][5][6][7] up until the second half of 2016 when they changed it to July 21.[8] So AllMusic is shown to contradict itself, and is shown to be unreliable in this case. See WP:CONTEXTMATTERS.
Note that RIAA also says August 1971.[9] (Don't put too much trust in the August 1 specific day, which was a Sunday that year, a day when nobody releases albums.)
So let's not go down the rabbit hole of false dates, and stick with books printed before Wikipedia. Binksternet (talk) 17:01, 26 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Well, if we look at chart data for Billboard, the Master of Reality LP entered the US charts on 4 September 1971, which would mean it took the album a whopping six weeks to even enter the charts. For a band that had its previous album (Paranoid) hit No. 12 in March 1971, that is very unlikely. Looking at the 4 Sept debut date, it is more likely the LP was released in the US some 2 weeks later after its UK release, and certainly not before
Edit warring isn't okay. @Binksternet, FlightTime, N-Devil, and Ray1983a: It's time to discuss the disagreement and try to work things out. If you're unable to come to consensus or find a policy-based compromise about what the article should say, please seek out dispute resolution help. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 04:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply