Talk:National Sovereignty and Children's Day

I don't understand the second sentence of this article: "It is the only holiday which is devoted to all children of the world by Atatürk". Does this mean:

• It is the only holiday devoted to all children of the world, and it happens to be "by" Atatürk?
• It is the only holiday devoted to all of the children fathered (through adoption or figurative children through nationality) by Atatürk?
• There are other holidays devoted to all children of the world, but they are "by" someone other than Atatürk?
• There are other holidays devoted to some children "by" Atatürk, but in those holidays the devotion doesn't extend to all children of the world?

Ypna (talk) 01:13, 23 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

So I have some clear issues with the sources for starters the article uses only really two both while can be used and are semi-reliable for this subject will non the less provide a warped and biased outlook if you only use them. The two sources are Daily Sabah Turkish nationalist news publication and the others are directly published by the Turkish government. You can clearly see the issue and it becomes clear how a line like "devoted to the children of the world" could ever be added on Wikipedia without immediately being deleted. Here some Government sources can be used but the sources are currently not only terrible they also are warped towards a perspective. If anyone wants to try to add to this article, the best would reliable secondary sources and using neutral provable statement. Instead of stating "Person did X" for some fantastic statement state "Person claimed X". Thanks. Des Vallee (talk) 08:40, 23 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

BSRF Bring it here, for starters this is English Wikipedia, sources in foreign languages aren't ideal and need to be translated, this is basic information on sources Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English_sources. Moreover it still uses government sources as the primary way to build the article. Des Vallee (talk) 18:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

The policy you've mentioned states that "Citations to non-English reliable sources are allowed on the English Wikipedia." Are there any unreliable sources in the article? Encyclopædia Britannica, university journals, major news outlets are cited in the article. Which sources do you think are related to the government?

Does the the article you've cited specifically mention "National Sovereignty and Children's Day" as a propaganda tool? If yes, on which page it does so? You haven't provided the page number. If it doesn't mention this holiday, then your contribution constitutes original research.--BSRF (talk) 07:11, 29 April 2021 (UTC)Reply