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I have reviewed this work, and would like to begin the discussion on a rework of the article. I would like to hear anyones thoughts on this matter prior to my editing or overhauling. I will wait 7 days for discussion before making any edits. please discussIlliniGradResearch (talk) 15:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
Thesis: serious scholarship produces something of value which those who have not engaged in it in some cases cannot properly appreciate. Their failure to appreciate it is what makes so many CrankS.
Why should we care about idiosyncratic views of someone from the outside looking in? Usually, no matter how intelligent and wide-ranging one's experience, if one has not done serious study of the subject, one is bound to sound like a crank, and one will simply annoy and turn away serious students of the subject and those who value serious scholarship. And by "serious scholarship" that I do not mean university study--university study is only one, certainly not infallible, way to engage in serious study.
What, then, does serious study of a subject require? It requires, first, acknowledging that you don't know very much about the subject. Second, it requires reading many books and (for academic and most professional disciplines) journal articles, until one is familiar with the leading theories, concepts, jargon, people, and historical trends that are recognized by experts in the field.
Serious study of a subject does not--emphatically not--require that one buy into any particular current theories.
-- Larry Sanger 22:01, 6 February 2001
Of course SeriousScholarship is important. But equally important is to avoid AcademicElitism.
--Jimbo Wales 22:37, 6 February 2001
I agree with that. LS ---- 22:48, 6 February 2001
And what about a discipline like Pure Mathematics? To begin with people with a serious interest in Mathematics DO NOT READ Mathematics books.
And then there is Language study - Again this is hardly a question of READING books.
I don't find this description of scholarship very comprehensive...I believe that each discipline has its own requirements for scholarship and expertise. RoseParks
This page seems to attract more than a few external links, since ennumerable scholarships exist. I propose limiting the links to (free) scholarship information and (free) scholarship searching tools, and among those, limiting it to a few of the best. I am going to go ahead and remove a link to help a student since it seems at present to be a single scholarship. Thoughts? --Hansnesse 01:22, 15 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
The link http://www.earnscholarships.com was posted to the article. It does not seem like a comprehensive resource (and in my browser, it appears poorly formatted), and I removed it. Since it is back, I have moved it here for further discussion. Thoughts? --TeaDrinker 08:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
I always want to create a sort of... "wikipedia scholarship portal" which contains a list of scholarship providers etc and categorized it by ... let say... geographic area, nature, etc.
Too bad... I do not know how to do it
AdityaLesmana 02:12, 26 April 2006
What about a wikibook on the subject? It would focus on the history of scholarships, how they are organized, how to get them and also a directory of web sources. Also, are there not enough articles on scholarships to warrent a portal to organize them? I'm not suggesting an organization of every scholarship, but just those wich warrent an encyclopedia article and are culturally significant. Tmchk | Talk 10:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
The three types listed currently are merit-based, need-based, and ethnicity-based. Maybe this should be expanded or looked at a bit differently. For instance the America's Junior Miss scholarship is for females only, so where does it fit in? Maybe ethnicity could be expanded to include genetic qualifiers (race, sex, etc.) and another category could be added for others such as scholarships that require having worked at a particular place?
--Gordaen 16:57, 8 November 2006
Can y'all take a look at College Scholarship Penalty? Can this information be sourced? Merged? ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
This article is focused only on scholarships within the USA, although it admits that some minority based scholarships may be available outside of it. The types section appears to be the worst - indicating that merit based scholarships are only granted as a result of American tests, and that only US institutions and companies offer other types of scholarships. --92.27.207.93 (talk) 21:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
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Merging this with bursary might eliminate some of these issues. Chamberlian (talk) 18:48, 25 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
Our oldest son is currently applying to universities. This week, he received his first "academic, merit-based" scholarship OFFER. I emphasize the word offer because the form that he must sign and return includes two choices:
We can't imagine why anyone would decline a merit-based scholarship, so we came to this Wikipedia page, looking for information on "responses to a scholarship offer". As expected (unfortunately), the article does not include such information.
I'm "old school". From my perspective, there's only one proper response to a scholarship offer--"Thanks". However, the world seems to have developed into a place where everything is negotiable. Our son's first scholarship offer is a "partial fee remission". Maybe we could decline the award as a step in the negotiation process because we, of course, would prefer a full fee remission. That behavior seems inappropriate and ungrateful to me, though.
In conclusion, I am requesting addition of a new section to this article on the topic "Responses to a Scholarship Offer".
ProResearcher (talk) 01:58, 11 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
This section is very informative, but I believe additions to the athletic scholarship portion should be expanded.(SmoothGenau (talk) 02:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC))Reply
Why no numbers? How much does an American grad-student get and how much do grad-students in England get etc.? Is it enough to make a living? Were scholarship higher or lower during the 1950s, 60s etc. (in comparison to other incomes, of course)? --193.175.206.234 (talk) 16:14, 2 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
An unregistered editor left the following comment in the article: "(Random individual) I'm pretty certain this article needs far more information in regards to controversy and percentages of what students receive aid. I know it's obvious, but this stuff sounds a little 'incomplete.'" ElKevbo (talk) 18:16, 24 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Scholarship may refer to the concrete noun meaning a bursary or alternatively to an abstract noun meaning the process or result of learning. The discussion here refers to the former definition. Bruce Graham (talk) 05:59, 19 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
This is copied from the Talk page of User:Dilby:
deisenbe (talk) 22:28, 17 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
I'm going to copy this to the talk page of the article. deisenbe (talk) 13:18, 18 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
I don't care to spend a lot of time on an article when everything I do (about 2500 characters this time) is reverted by @Bilby. I think some of his reversions are just plain wrong. (I have 7 years full-time experience in college financial aid in the United States.) I hope it's obvious, if you review the exchanges on this page and his reversions, that I know a lot more about the topic than he does. I'm not going to go finding references just to satisfy him (or anybody else). What I did was taken out, in my opinion making the article less clear and less informative than before, but keep it the way you want it. Won't inconvenience me.
If you'd like to see the article as I left it, before his reversions, here is the link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scholarship&oldid=705610607
deisenbe (talk) 21:28, 18 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
That would end this dispute. Almost all of the article, save one paragraph, deals with the United States. It isn't at present an article about scholarships worldwide. Someone else could write "Scholarships in Australia", or whatever country s/he has expertise in. Once these articles about other countries have been written, we could consider merging them. There is already an article on Scholarships in Korea.
Anyone object? deisenbe (talk) 00:46, 19 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Bilby, I would be remiss, even though I'm not planning anything, if I did not tell you that the article Scholarships as it now stands is almost entirely about scholarships in the United States, not scholarships in other countries. It's misleading and unhelpful. deisenbe (talk)
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− It has become more prevalent today that scholarships are misconceived[by whom?] to have a discriminatory quality to them. For example, as demonstrated by student-specific scholarships, minorities are thought to have a priority over Caucasian students when it comes to receiving these[which?] scholarships.[citation needed]
− − These beliefs are known to come from college students themselves who have been affected by their failures at obtaining adequate financial aid.[citation needed] Mark Kantrowitz, author of "Secrets to Winning a Scholarship", explains that the average family tends to overestimate its student's eligibility for merit-based awards and underestimate its eligibility for need-based awards. In turn, the most persistent target of this disapproval tends to be high-profile, minority-based scholarships.[citation needed]
− − Most scholarships are based on merit or talent, without considering economic need or ethnicity. Since the economically privileged usually have better schools and more access to other educational resources, merit-based awards favor the economically privileged. While Caucasians account for 62% of full-time college students in America,[1] they receive 76% of all scholarships.[2] deisenbe (talk) 16:13, 31 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
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I have added a list of notable scholarships. All items have their own Wikipedia page but do add more if I have missed any. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pug of the day (talk • contribs) 14:50, 5 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
This section clearly uses unsourced alt right rhetoric and far right views. The fact that there are no citations to back up this individuals outlandish claims is really quite telling. Can I take it out and replace it with an objective look on the purposes that scholarships serve in society.Pug of the day (talk) 14:56, 5 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
June 17 2019:
The assistantships seem to be missing from the talk. These are types of scholarships but one has to work. I don't have time now, but could perhaps someone check on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esnascosta (talk • contribs) 18:44, 17 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
The term "open scholarship" is used in mutliple biographical articles throughout Wikipedia. Does that term need to be defined here? How is an "open" scholarship more open than a "scholarship"? Also, the term "open scholarship" is also used in the context of Open Science, where it means "open access to scholarship" in the form of written research papers. Sfjohna (talk) 12:54, 11 July 2023 (UTC)Reply