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In Legal resistance section, should be mentioned how techniques used to avoid paying VAT / Sales tax, import tariffs ? This is might be original research but: Norwegians shopping in Sweden (avoid tariffs on food imports). Lithuanians shopping for food and petrol in Poland. Food VAT are 21% in Lithuania and 5% for basic items in Poland. Swiss, Denmark residents shopping in Germany. Ordering children's clothing in GB located internet store (0VAT%) vs 21% in LV, LT , 20% in EE. I suspect that similar approach is used USA, by people living close to state boundaries with different sales/excise taxes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlV (talk • contribs) 21:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
1. User user:Karmafist deleted "Arab" qualifer from "Palestinian town of [[Beit Sahour]..." The qualifier is necessary to distinguish between Jewish Palestinians, and Arab Palestinians.
2. User user:Karmafist deleted "More recently, some foes of abortion and/or capital punishment have become tax resisters, refusing to pay taxes that are going to support those practices." Clearly, people who resist paying taxes that go towards abortion services are tax resisters. To delete this reference is puzzling and odd.
I would defend those edits on these grounds: 1) "Arab" seems to be an ethnic qualifier and I haven't seen evidence that the tax resistance in Beit Sahour was done only by Arab residents. 2) While people who resist taxes that pay for abortion certainly qualify as tax resisters, there was no citation on this description and I'm not sure any such tax resisters exist except in conjecture. -Moorlock 00:02, 30 December 2005 (UTC)Reply
This article is clearly biased. There are no arguments for tax resistance. --Dissipate 05:16, 28 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
How can quotes count as an argument? I don't get it. --Dissipate 05:23, 28 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps that is the way you see it, but I see it as an article that has a section with 'arguments' (although I wouldn't call those arguments) against but no section for. --Dissipate 05:57, 28 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
The article talks about resisting the telephone excise tax, which is part of the phone bill. Underpaying the bill is likely to result in disconnection of service. If this is really done, there should be a reference discussing it, and I see nothing in the refs cited. Robert A.West (Talk) 02:58, 29 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
First, I apologize for not noticing I was not signed in when added links and other info. Have made a note on the user page. User:208.59.123.46
Anyway, added two links to NWTRCC and Peace Tax Fund at bottom because didn't notice they were in the top right box. Sorry, box must have looked like an advert. Also added a description of Peace Tax Fund which was not on the page at the time. User:Carolmooredc Carol Moore 15:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Tax resistance → Tax resistance in the United States This article deals almost exclusively about this phenomenon in the United States. Please discuss at Talk:Tax protester#Requested move. — AjaxSmack 06:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
There is explicit mentioning of tax resistance in the outstanding international "Manifesto against conscription and the military system" (with an updated list of all signatories from 1993 to 2007), official websites http://home.snafu.de/mkgandhi/manifest.htm - http://www.themanifesto.info - why not adding it? Chrbartolf 12:08, 11 January 2007 (UTC)ChrbartolfReply
Tax Slavery is the absolute legal ownership of the ruler over a person's labor or income.
It describes a system in which a person's property rights are subordinated to the decisions or laws of the ruling class. It is a concept originating in the last days of the Roman Empire, when the jurisprudential concept of property of Ulpian, Mucius Scaevola et al. was substituted by the concept of property as a privilege, subject to revocation by edict of the emperor or his representatives.
Diocletian's institution of the death penalty for those that defied imperial price controls on oil and cloth were decried by Lactantius as slavery, since what differentiated a paterfamilias from a servant was his control over property. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flix2000 (talk • contribs) 17:43, 6 February 2007 (UTC).Reply
A section like this could go on and on as people add their favorites. I've replaced it with a link to the Category:Tax resisters page for now, but maybe it could be replaced by short summaries of a few particularly prominent resisters. -Moorlock 16:33, 18 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Tax protester does a good job of defining what a tax protester is and shows that it is not a result of original research. This article should do the same; it should reference Blacks Law Dictionary or some peer-reviewed academic article in the opening line of this article.EECavazos (talk) 20:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Dear editors: The following were added to the article by another editor as being examples of arguments in favor of tax resistance:
I removed the verbiage, but I want to explain why. These are really, strictly speaking, Tax protester arguments, not tax resistance arguments. That is, these are legally incorrect, legally frivolous statements. This kind of material is already covered in the Wikipedia articles on tax protesters.
By contrast, tax resistance arguments seem to relate more to overall ideology or policy arguments by those who resist taxes.
See the distinction in the first two paragraphs of this article -- regarding the difference between tax protesters and tax resisters.
Also, this article is on tax resistance in general, and is not limited to the United States – while the two tax protester arguments that I removed really relate specifically and only to frivolous litigation involving the U.S. federal income tax.
By the way, Bill Conklin is well-known as a tax protester among people who study this kind of thing in depth.
And, just for the record, while it is indeed correct to say that "all information given to the IRS is done so voluntarily and they [the IRS] may use any or all information within your return against you in a court of law", it is blatantly incorrect to say that there is "no way to file a tax return without voluntarily waiving one's Fifth Amendment right not to be compelled to bear witness against oneself." Indeed, there is a very specific rule under something called the Garner Doctrine about how to file a U.S. federal income tax return, fully reporting all income that should be included, and yet without waiving one's Fifth Amendment right not to be compelled, etc. In fact, it's very easy to do, if you have a good tax lawyer or CPA advising you. Yours, Famspear (talk) 18:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
What government evil would it take for you to stop paying taxes in disgust?
1. Govt. take your money and uses it to lock up innocent people.
2. The govt. uses your money to lock up black people.
3. The govt. uses your money to murder brown people.
4. the govt. gives your tax money to their friends.
5. the govt. wastes your money on something stupid, or maybe just burns it.
6. the govt. spend your money on propaganda for higher taxes.
7. The govt. spends your money on brainwashing babies to torture puppies.
8. The govt. spends your money on researching about how the money really belongs to them.
9. The govt. "invests" your money in a ponzi scheme.
10. What taxes? I don't pay any taxes!
11. I own a bank, the govt. pays ME taxes.
12. The govt. can do no evil, by definition all it does is good.
13. I'm too scared not to obey, the govt. has the biggest guns.
14. I can't help it, they are in cahoots with my employer and withold it.
15. I work for the govt. Taxes are the price you pay for civilization.
16. Didn't Jesus say I always had to pay taxes?
17. I'll keep paying, but vote for whoever promises to do less evil.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.199.122.25 (talk • contribs) on 10 November 2008.
Actually, this probably does not belong on the talk page; another editor might remove it. The purpose of this talk page is to discuss ways to improve the article, not to discuss the evils or benefits of taxation, etc., etc. Famspear (talk) 15:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
I remember reading a story about a man in New Brunwick who had refused to pay taxes because of his political beliefs against abortion, which is publicly funded in many parts of the world. There could maybe additional information about such cases, where political activists refuse to pay taxes not because they don't agree with the idea of taxes, but because they are opposed to certain controversial government programs that involve terminating unwanted members of society, like fetuses or embryos, handicapped people and elderly people. ADM (talk) 23:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
Shouldn't Tax revolt be merged into Tax Resistance? AshcroftIleum (talk) 02:03, 23 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
Taxes are illegal and -the gov- says its illegal to evade? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.131.141.255 (talk) 21:05, 3 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
At the moment the article mixes war Tax Resistance and general Tax Resistance together throughout the article. Maybe it would be better to have section on War Tax Resistance. Jonpatterns (talk) 22:25, 20 June 2014 (UTC)Reply
Haven't got any sources, read this around 1990. A major comparance had been made between Brazil and South Korea. The nations were on the same level of development in 1960, both countries had a low level of democracy and edjucation. But one factor separated them. Taxes in general. While Brazil was and continued to be a low tax country, South Korea constituted its opposite in this specific matter. 25 Years later, around 1985, had South Korea better national finances (dispite far less natural resources) , next to zero unemployment figures, no ghettos with armed youths, in all common parameters South Korea had come far ahead of Brazil. Also the beginning of South Korean engeneering had started to become obvious etc. Helthcare and higher edjucation was available for everyone. In every comparacy South Korea had surpassed Brazil and they had done so by the use of progressive taxation, introduction of VAT and special taxes on certain products. I can't recall any figures but South Korea was concidered an example of "high tax" country and Brazil the opposite. Only the top 0,1 % (or so) richest people had much more money in Brazil. If a country is supposed to do the best for each and everyone, extreme low taxation appear to be the wrong way to achieve this goal, I remember I thought. To that I can add that the country I live in was known for extremely high taxation some 40 years ago, but the society worked fine. Today the taxes are much lower, but the general problems has increased. And only very few has benefitted from the lower taxes. There are of cource other parameters than taxes only, however they appear to be essential everywhere. Boeing720 (talk) 22:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
What does this article really cover ? The history of people that for different reasons objected to pay taxes, like Gahndi. (Who didn't want to pay taxes to the colonial occupants) Or is it about a political belief, intended for modern and developed nations ? The latter is (if a such -"ism" grows) directly harmful for its society, and if ever introduced, some kind of anarchy would replace the modern and developed state. Nobody likes to pay taxes, but everyone would like their children to get education, don't they ? And is the police not needed anylonger ? Boeing720 (talk) 03:58, 24 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
Discussion on tax protester talkpage.Jonpatterns (talk) 09:49, 7 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
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