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I reverted the recent addition of the digital time capsule website as 3 or 4 mentions was excessive and obviously a self-link promo. I was going to remove the whole thing but on further thought it is a valid form of time capsule and will re-add a mention of it in more general terms. -- Stbalbach 01:25, 29 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
Electronic time capsule is a new website that I think shoud be added to the time capsule article. You send text,video,audio messages to a specific person in a specific date in the future. Yes it is a subscription based service but it is one of a kind.This may seem like spam or self promo but the reality is that I believe that this new service deserves to be added to the Time capsule article. www.electronictimecapsule.com The traditional time capsule concept polished up for the 21st century. Tell me what you think and if it should or not be in the Time capsule article. Kanucme 17:42, 12 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
should we add information about Yahoo Time Capsule?? http://timecapsule.yahoo.com
202.154.30.27 - October 11
A dedicated article now exist (created in november) : Yahoo! Time Capsule available through the category. Ultrogothe 09:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
The claim that the first 'modern' timecapsule was laid in 1937 seems wrong. An article in the German Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BCrkenkaserne) on a barracks built in Munich Germany mentions a time capsule buried in its foundations in 1823. Sejtam 14:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
I agree - There was a time capsule buried under Nelsons Column in Trafalgar sq in the early 19th century. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.238.184.177 (talk) 12:24, 7 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
Chem teacher (talk) 17:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC) The reference to the Ozymandias Project was removed because it was “not notable” as no other web pages referenced it. It is actually referenced by http://www.longnow.org/views/links/educational/ which is a page of the Long Now Foundation which is dedicated to instilling long term thinking. If you access the “history of project “ link, you will see that Carl Sagan, the Smithsonian museum, and the museum of Natural History found the project notable enough to consider doing it. Chem teacher (talk) 21:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC)Links to the "History of the project" on the main web page now detail Carl Sagan’s proposal to place the Ozymandias project in earth orbit.Reply
Chem teacher (talk) 00:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
The Ozymandias Project reference was edited out on July 4th for “not addressing the problem of obsolete data formats”Reply
There are, in fact, two forms in the project: In the first all data is recopied every 10 years onto whatever the newest data recording medium is, and this goes on indefinitely, so there can never be an technology obsolescence problem. In the second data is stored for (say) 300,000 years on an imperishable medium with detailed instructions for decoding, presented in a set of universally understandable instructions. This method makes changes in format irrelevant, as it has to, considering its pretty unlikely that the data storage techniques will be identical to ours 300,000 years from now. This is all detailed in the article.
As to “not getting anywhere in 15 years” a project intended to last a million years or so can wait more than 15 to get started, much more.
Chem teacher (talk) 20:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC) The Ozymandias project has been rewritten to make clearer the distinction between two modes one for if civilization persists and one for if it fails. As for imperishable materials :quartz slabs drilled with a laser and filled with a material of a different index of refraction and identical thermal expansion , was one proposal spelled out in detail.Reply
A library of Stone slabs with cartoon instructions for deciphering the actual digital data slabs,is of course, only a general outline. A committee of linguists and anthropologists would probably be needed to work out the full sequence of a credible attempt to communicate from an extinct language to a living one.
I am receiving comments from readers about how to best do this: one cleaver one calls for the use
of a periodic table to serve as one universally recognizable basis for a start. I will include This
and other suggestions in a future addendum.
As , to the issue of whether or not the idea for the project is still active: I am getting constant feedback from readers, and the idea has plenty of time to work its way into the public consciousness.
It is funny that an idea the content of which is to save our works for hundreds of thousands, or millions of years is judged to be inactive if nothing pops within ten years, as if im proposing an idea for a fashion magazine! A little longer perspective is appropriate for something dealing with the slow fall and rise of civilizations.
Chem teacher (talk) 18:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)Reply
Well... syzygy ..your right ...wikipedia should just be for the important and the notable, but you’re off base as to how one should assess those characteristics.
First..what’s important is not confined to what is being talked about a lot ,on the net and otherwise. When Gregor Mendel discovered the laws of inheritance it was not noticed by any major figures in Biology at all, and sat unread in a few copies of a particularly obscure journal.
Darwin not having read it, got into serious trouble, because without it, his evolutionary theory had difficulties and even contradictions. He desperately needed Mendel to complete his theory. It was published but Darwin didn’t know it.
The point here is that Mendel’s ideas were just as important before they were known widely, as after they were “rediscovered”. They didn’t magically become important at the moment somebody in authority accidently picked them up read them, and really thought about them for the first time. They were crucial all along.
As for notability.... well the Museum Of natural History and The Smithsonian thought the project notable enough to think about doing, and Carl Sagan thought it notable enough to propose a variation. That constitutes a reasonable degree of notability.
The main point is that nothing is more appropriate to a Wikipedia article about time capsules than a reference to an idea which addresses all the long term storage problems mentioned in the article, and more, is really an idea for new kind of time capsule altogether, one that’s never been done.(Yet).
re: removal on Jan 19: Removal as “promotional link” is baseless The Ozymandias project is not a commercial enterprise but an idea. It is directly relevant to the issues being discussed in the article. Promoting ideas is what Wikipedia is for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.237.26.75 (talk) 22:24, 3 February 2010 (UTC) Chem teacher (talk) 21:14, 11 February 2010 (UTC)for feb 11 redo: Again this is not a commercial site there is no provision for contributions and none have ever been accepted.Reply
I don't think it's necessary to quote tips from an external website verbatim. Wouldn't a link be sufficient? Please advise. --Syzygy (talk) 12:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
It seemed excessive to me on the International Time Capsule Society wikipedia page, but yes, it's probably exessive here too.Martinlc (talk) 13:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
I would like the editors to consider adding a link to this website www.yorkshiretimecapsule.blogspot.com. the website offers ways to upload files or mail documents as a way of participating in the project and whilst there are products available to buy from here, participation in the project is free as this is a primarily a global social project. I think that the site is worthy of inclusion as, unlike Yahoo Time Capsule, we are currently still accepting contributions and this may be of interest to any members of the public who choose to read the time capsule wiki. Thanks for your time, Sarah (92.0.144.183 (talk) 23:56, 23 August 2010 (UTC))Reply
Chem teacher (talk) 22:45, 11 November 2010 (UTC)For Ozymandias Project:
Syzygy states: “Ozymandias isn't getting any more notable by repeatedly inserting it here...”
As a reason for deleting it.Reply
It does not have to be MORE notable, A project which was commented on favorably
by Carl Sagan, considered for implementation BY the Smithsonian, and considered “visionary” by the director of the Museum of natural History ( all this documented in the history of project link on the Ozymandias web site ) is already sufficiently notable. Of course Syzyrgy might not consider any of the aforementioned sufficiently notable, but this is not a reasonable criteria for notability.
Although the only letter given from the Smithsonian was the one saying that they didn’t have the funds to do it, there were two or three from them preceding it which stated that various departments were considering it, which consideration took more than three months before deciding not to. If a museum considers doing a project for this long it indicates considerably more interest than a “polite no”.
Sagan definitely thought it would be better to put it in space but his statement “I agree that if deep-freezing is inexpensive enough, it's probably a good idea to do it.” Means just what it says. (talk • contribs) 22:43, 11 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
"Notable" is not synonymous with "fame" or "importance," and even organizations that editors personally believe are "important" are only accepted as notable if they can be shown to have attracted notice.
Chem teacher (talk) 21:25, 23 November 2010 (UTC)|talk]]) 21:22, 23 November 2010 (UTC)I agree that at this point it makes sense to get this issue decided by the wikipedia dispute resolution system. Having it decided by a single third party seems too much like flipping a coin to me, if it were twenty editors that might be alright, but one is too arbitrarily.Reply
As soon as I understand the workings of the Wikipedia mechanism better I will submit this issue for resolution.
Chem teacher (talk) 01:35, 2 December 2010 (UTC)I want to send this to the mediation committee which is a step before arbitration ,and is not binding. The third opinion option still seems to random to me, I would prefer editors who do this regularly and are less likely to be partisan either way.Reply
I will fill out the forms and they will look at this discussion page. I will abide by their decision,
In either case, your input was a factor in my reediting my article to be clearer about some things, which is an ongoing process.
Chem teacher (talk) 00:15, 3 December 2010 (UTC) I referred it to the "mediation cabal" which is a step called informal mediation, which they recommend taking before formal mediation. I filled out the form which resulted in the following page being created: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2010-12-02/Time_capsuleReply
It might expedite matters if you sign that page to show you want mediation for this issue, and, of course, you can edit it.
Citation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.93.212.99 (talk) 12:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hello fellow wiki-editors. I'm adding new listings of time capsules to the list page. I'd like to invite more activity to that page for a good reason. I'm leading up a project for a time capsule for next year and one of the items we'd like to put in the time capsule, is a list of other time capsule complete with GPS coordinates and dates they will be opened. This is in the expectation of telling people of the future where other time capsules can be found. Based on the approval of other wikieditors I'd like to head up this directory of time capsules here at wikipedia with the aforementioned article. I welcome your input, with a collaborative effort we may have a more meaningful index to drop into our time capsule next year.--Ourhistory153 (talk) 16:47, 7 July 2012 (UTC)Reply
There has been no meaningful content added to this page since 2009. There have been some edits but no worthwhile contributions and even one of their main references called "Affordable Time Capsules" is a dead link. Not sure that that was about but it seems like a self serving commercial company. But the very scar thing is that this society's mission is to build an index of time capsules through submissions from time capsule planners. But where does that information go? Is it in public domain? Can we be assured it's not just a black hole where the info goes nowhere? I believe if this society is to maintain a presence and gather information there there should be some contributions and current involvement. What's your thought's on this? --Ourhistory153 (talk) 17:02, 29 July 2012 (UTC)Reply
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Nearly the entire article concerns time capsules in the United States. Which is fine, if they are predominantly an American thing, but if so, some mention should be made of that. Otherwise, it would be good to include more international examples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.249.219 (talk) 23:00, 13 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Various documents point to the Jarvis book listed in "Further reading" as saying that this time capsule at the Centennial Exposition was the first planned capsule, but there is no mention in the article or at List of time capsules. Mapsax (talk) 02:00, 2 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
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