Talk:Where No Fan Has Gone Before

As a Welsh speaker, I can tell you that "Dwi wedi meddwi'n llwyr" means "I am completely drunk", not "I am very, very drunk"
That, however, is beside the point, because I'm certain he says "Aye, Dwi wedi meddwi'n chwyl chwil" which is a northern colloquialism for getting very drunk. I think the best translation would be "Yes, I am reeling drunk". I'm not sure that's what the writers wanted him to say, but that's what he does say.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.251.0.53 (talk) 20:51 & :53, 16 November 2006

Lest anyone argue that the match is exact, Takei says "Destruct sequence 1-A-2-B-3" while the original was Captain: "1-1-A"; First Officer: "1-1-A-2-B"; Second Officer: "1-B-2-B-3"; Captain: "0-0-0-Destruct-0." BryanEkers 21:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Also, when he said that, didn't Bender's head explode?Bobo10512 17:20, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Interactions between the cast appear to reference a couple of themes from George Takei’s autobiography To The Stars. Firstly, when Melllvar distributes the scripts of his self-penned episode, he does not have enough copies for the entire cast, forcing Takei and Walter Koenig to share. To me this suggests Takei’s recount of being forced to share a dressing room first with Doohan and then with Koenig, whose arrival Takei initially greeted as an effort to replace him on the show. Secondly, after Takei is offended by Shatner’s suggestion that he perform a karate chop, he asks if Shatner has ever seen him demonstrate karate. Shatner responds that Takei does not speak about himself; Takei moans that Shanter should have asked to speak with him. This is a reoccurring theme throughout Takei’s autobiography: the distance which Shatener appeared to keep himself from getting to know his cast mates despite their best motivations. (207.81.164.238 20:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC))Reply

• There's a couple more references that aren't noted in the article, that Goodman does note in the episode audio commentary. One of them escapes me, but the other is that the opening line "The impossible has happened," said by Shatner, is the same opening line of the very first ST:TOS episodes. He says on the commentary it was a reference so subtle that most people missed it.
  Also, the redshirt phenomenon is in there twice.
  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.222.190 (talk) 20:50, 26 July 2007

  fixed (67.182.10.151 12:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC))Reply

is there reely an episode where spock get high on spores? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by I am Paranoid (talk • contribs) 02:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC).Reply

This Side of Paradise (TOS episode) Stardust8212 02:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Should it be added that there is a look into the future of the end of the series when Bender says, "Another Sci-Fi show cancelled before its time"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.231.129.45 (talk) 05:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC).Reply

Unless the creators themselves have stated that this was their intention then it probably doesn't belong here. I think it has been included before and removed as original research. I agree that that was probably the joke they were going for but at the same time if its an obvious joke there is no reason to explain it here. Stardust8212 12:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

You might consider chacking if this wasn't a Firefly reference. Bezier123 17:54, 27 May 2012 (GMT+1) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.11.254.132 (talk)

Article currently says Melvar "...found the tapes centuries ago." However the exact quote from the show: "Centuries ago the videotaped adventures of the enterprise crew rained down upon my planet..." which does not necessarily signify he is centuries old, rather that he (or others) knew when the tapes fell to the planet. Splitting hairs I know but should be deleted or at least expanded upon. JonBradbury 06:10, 29 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

I agree and removed it. It's a joke and not well defined in th episode itself. Also we don't need any guessing about Earth years vs Energy being years on this page. Stardust8212 12:41, 30 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

So, does he really hate Star Trek? 72.222.129.203 21:45, 19 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Just in case there was something important here that could be tweaked back to the article: --Duke B. Garland 15:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

• A little further detail: DBG removed a solid block of material (good decision!) including the three section headings. I assume the only change he made was the wise subordination of the headings (which had been at the normal biggest-size-but-one level in the article). Usually it is a better idea in such cases to keep those headings out of the talk page's ToC by converting them to non-section headings (the method of suppressing them in the ToC that keeps open the ability to refactor the talk page into a multi-level structure re-grouping related sections as subsections and sub-subsections etc.), but in this case one of the sections is long enuf that the headings are a usability enhancement. If someone uses the material they should probably make their own copy of it and modify it as needed to further enhance usability, but if there is ever extended discussion of it that is on-topic for this page, its current form should be archived, and a copy of the removed material created as the subpage Talk:Where No Fan Has Gone Before/Marked-up version of 2007 "Removed content" so that referring to portions of it would be more practical. But that's probably about an alternate universe where there is a consensus on WP that the material matters, or about some other wiki that would welcome its being transwikied there.
  --Jerzy•t 20:28, 8 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
  
• I'm permitting myself one (non-wiki-)geek comment: could the voluminously contributing author of the removed cultural references have been unaware that "forbidden planet" must be a reference to the 1956 ur-classic Forbidden Planet???
  --Jerzy•t 20:28, 8 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

  I'd say no; the idea of a "forbidden planet" is reasonably common in science fiction, and was used several times in Star Trek. It may even be a trope preceding the 1956 film, in the form of fictional or historical "forbidden islands," e.g., Napoleon's prison on Elba. There is nothing in the episode which textually or visually specifically references the film (which the creators were certainly aware of; I saw Robbie the Robot on a later episode, I think one involving some large massing of various robots). So if it references this film, it only does so indirectly, via the Star Trek referencing thereof.ScottForschler (talk) 17:48, 24 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
  

The central premise of the episode, that in the future Star Trek has become a proscribed religion, so much so that it was forbidden even to speak of it, was contradicted by Hermes in the episode Brannigan Begin Again. In that episode Hermes uses the Federation as an analogy to explain to Fry the concept behind the Democratic Order of Planets (DOOP). It is highly unlikely that Hermes, being both officious and pedantic in the extreme, would commit a crime by casually discussing Star Trek. A possible explanation for Hermes' omission could be found in his extensive exposure to Brain Slugs. However, an even less likely contradiction is found in the episode That's Lobstertainment!, as Star Trek: The Pepsi Generation is nominated for an Oscar for Best Product Placement.

• The ship that jettisons the last Star Trek videotapes to the forbidden planet is an Eagle Transporter from Space: 1999.
• Shatner performs a spoken-word version of "The Real Slim Shady", a reference to his much-maligned album The Transformed Man, in which he performed spoken words of contemporary songs such as "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" and "Mr Tambourine Man."
• Zapp Brannigan was partially inspired by both Kirk and Shatner.
• "Where No Fan Has Gone Before" was the name of a Star Trek fan club in the 1970s founded by Joseph Ames, Jr., then a grammar school student in Maple Grove, MN. The name was taken from a defunct fanzine of the same name listed in a 1974 edition of the "Star Trek Welcommittee Directory".
• Nichelle Nichols' gymnastic attack and battle cry mock that of Xena.
• The sign outside of the Star Trek church reads "The sci-fi religion that doesn't take all your money", a reference to Scientology.
• Doohan's replacement, Welshie, first traveled with the Star Trek cast after his appearance on a Star Trek-themed variety program, a reference to the re-casting of Jan Brady in The Brady Bunch Variety Hour.
• Bender's Line " Another great science fiction show, cancelled before its time" may reference Futurama's own cancellation, as the writers would have known by this time.
• Nimoy's mention of his apartment lease in his farewell to Shatner may be a reference to a Travelocity commercial they both participated in.
• William Shatner sings a pathetically-mild version of Eminem's rap song "The Real Slim Shady".

In the DVD audio commentary the writer for this episode notes his pride in having included a large number of references to the original series, particularly those items which he claims "the people on the internet" had not found on their own. In particular he noted that in "Shatner's Log", a play on the legendary captain's log, the line "The impossible has happened" is the same line given in the opening log in the episode "Where No Man Has Gone Before."^[1] Other references to the Star Trek franchise, in order of appearance in the episode, are as follows:

• The name of the episode is a play on the Star Trek saying, "To boldly go where no man has gone before".
• After the regular Futurama introduction, the Planet Express Ship is shown flying across a backdrop of stars; this is similar to the opening sequence seen at the beginning of each original Star Trek episode. The music being played during this sequence are also similar to the music used for the Original Series opening. This classic Trek star backdrop is used throughout the episode.
• Zapp Brannigan says, "Bring in the accused," a line taken from the end of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.
• Fry enters the courtroom in a robotic wheelchair that emits beeps for communication identical to the one used by Christopher Pike in the episode "The Menagerie."^[2].
• The Planet Express crew is charged with visiting the forbidden planet Omega III, for which the penalty is "twelve concurrent death sentences." Similarly, Talos IV, the planet to which Spock took Christopher Pike in the two-part episode "The Menagerie", is a forbidden planet in the Star Trek universe, punishable by death under Starfleet General Order #7.
• According to the video Nichelle Nichols plays, Star Trek evolved into a religion in the 23rd century; this may be a reference to the fact that the events of Star Trek: The Original Series occurred in the 23rd century.
• A sign in front of the Church of Star Trek: "Ceiling of the Christine Chapel Closed for Renovation", refers to Dr. McCoy's assistant, played by Majel Barrett in addition to being a reference to the Sistine Chapel.
• The Star Trek "priest" orates: "And Scotty beamed them to the Klingon ship, where they would be no tribble at all", referring to the events of "The Trouble With Tribbles." The crowd chants, "All power to the engines!"
• The crowd is dressed in the traditional uniforms of Star Trek: The Original Series.
• Two people in this crowd have the appearance of the black-and-white aliens from "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield."
• The Church's influence caused Germany to be briefly renamed "Nazi Planet Episode Land" (referring to the episode "Patterns of Force"). In reality, because of laws limiting Nazi imagery, that episode is rarely seen in Germany.
• "He's dead, Jim!", one of Leonard McCoy's famous lines, is repeated during a scene when Trekkie virgins are thrown into a volcano.
• This death is described as "the manner most befitting virgins." This may be a reference to the episode "Arena," in which the Metrons tell Kirk that he will settle the conflict between the Enterprise and the Gorn "in the way most suited to your limited mentalities."
• One of the Trekkies being executed is wearing a shirt that reads, "Beam Me Up, Scotty. There's no intelligent life here."
• All the tapes of Star Trek are fired out of a ship on a torpedo, and land on the forbidden planet Omega III, just as Spock's body was ejected onto the Genesis planet at the end of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. Similarly, the Genesis planet became a "galactic controversy" and a forbidden planet by the time of the events of "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock".
• Fry talks to Leonard Nimoy, asking him if he remembered the episode where he "got high on spores and smacked Kirk around" ("This Side of Paradise").
• When Nimoy's head leaves the shelf, Jonathan Frakes' head moves forward to exclaim, "Yes! Front row!" Frakes played William Riker, first officer in Star Trek: The Next Generation.
• Nimoy to Shatner:『Bill, you are, and always shall be… my friend,』a reference to one of Spock's lines to Kirk in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.
• The landscape of Omega III features the mountainous Vasquez Rocks, where the episodes "Shore Leave", "Friday's Child", and most notably "Arena" were filmed, are shown on several occasions throughout the episode.
• Various sets from the series can be seen on Omega III, including (in order of appearance): ""Spectre of the Gun" (incomplete Wild West buildings), "Who Mourns for Adonais?" (Greek ruins), "Bread and Circuses" (TV backdrop of the Colosseum), "The Gamesters of Triskelion" (the three disembodied brains of the Providers), "The Ultimate Computer" (the M5 computer), and "The City on the Edge of Forever" (The Guardian of Forever).
• The Star Trek actors' ship was pulled down to the planet surface, where they were given youthful bodies bodies and everything was provided for them. This is similar to what happened to Zefram Cochrane in "Metamorphosis."
• Fry asks Walter Koenig to repeat something with his Russian accent, and then to say "nuclear wessels," a line from Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.
• Melllvar, the entity on Omega III, resembles the Companion from "Metamorphosis" and the vampire cloud from "Obsession" in appearance and various other energy beings from ST:TOS in its powers.
• Melllvar speaks lines reminiscent of the "God" that resided behind The Great Barrier from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier such as "It is I" and "You doubt me?" (paraphrased as "You doubt my power?").
• The entity zaps Scotty's replacement (named Welshy), who happens to be wearing a red shirt. This is a play on Apollo zapping Scotty in the episode "Who Mourns for Adonais?." It is also similar to events of Star Trek V: The Final Frontier in which "God" zaps those who doubt his power. It also shows the recurring theme of redshirt security guards being killed off.
• Melllvar gives Leonard Nimoy his body back by enveloping him, much in the same way that The Companion rejuvenated Zefram Cochrane in "Metamorphosis".
• Melllvar says he watched the episodes over and over, especially the five with the energy beings. The five episodes he refers to are "The Squire of Gothos," "Metamorphosis," "Obsession," "Day of the Dove," and "The Lights of Zetar".
• During Ambassador Sarek's Trivia Challenge (named for Spock's father Sarek, ambassador from Vulcan) one of the questions asks who Kirk left on Ceti Alpha V (as seen in the episode "Space Seed"). Shatner stands up and screams "KHAAAAAAAAAN!!!" as he did in "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan."
• During the trivia contest, the prize money's unit of currency are Quatloos, the same currency used by the Providers in "The Gamesters of Triskelion."
• One of Kirk's lines in Melllvar's script states that he loves his ship like a woman. This sentiment is taken from the first season episode The Naked Time.
• In one of Spock's lines in Melllvar's script, Leonard Nimoy reads, "Fascinating, Captain, and logical, too," playing off the fact that Spock frequently uses the words "fascinating" and "logical."
• Bender works inside a Jefferies tube on the Planet Express ship with the same camera angle as was often used on Scotty.
• The starship fires down on Melllvar, as the Enterprise did on Apollo's temple in "Who Mourns for Adonais?" and Vaal in "The Apple." As in the original series, the beams are shown leaving the ship in diverging directions, but somewhere in between they converge so that both strike the target at the same time, in the same spot. The music from this scene is a remix of the incidental music from "The Doomsday Machine."
• The consoles on the star ship explode at critical moments, as happens throughout the series and movies.
• The Planet Express ship is pulled by a ray that resembles a giant green hand, much like the giant green hand that grabbed the Enterprise in "Who Mourns for Adonais?".
• In one line, Nichols refers to kissing Shatner in "Plato's Stepchildren" as something "heroic" she had done. While this was meant to be comedic, this actually was mildly heroic, as well as dangerous, as it has a debated claim as the first interracial kiss on TV (see "Plato's Stepchildren").
• Melllvar forces the Planet Express crew to battle the Star Trek cast to see who is better. This is very similar plot-wise to "The Savage Curtain."
• Melllvar and Fry's list of episodes featuring armed combat to the death included 19 (Arena), 46 (The Gamesters of Triskelion), 56 (Spectre of the Gun), 66 (Day of the Dove) and 77 (The Savage Curtain). Interestingly, they do not mention episode 34, "Amok Time," which features one of Star Trek's most famous fights to the death.
• During their fight to the death, the Star Trek cast and the Planet Express crew are only to use "whatever they can find." Kirk and the Gorn were put in a similar situation in "Arena."
• The music during the fight scene resembles that first used during Kirk and Spock's fight in "Amok Time" and reused later for many fight scenes in the series.
• Shatner rips his shirt, as he did in nearly every Kirk fight scene in the original series.
• When discussing their battle plan, Shatner remarks "Wasn't there an episode where I threw my boot at the enemy?" To which Nimoy replies, "You mean Doohan?" This is a reference to rumors that there was friction between William Shatner and James Doohan. However, they had renewed their friendship when Shatner cared for the ailling Doohan, who was dying of Alzheimer's and finally succumbed to it on July 20, 2005.
• Bender finds a Tommy gun similar to those seen in A Piece of the Action."
• Nichelle Nichols distracts Fry and Bender with her famous fan dance as seen in "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier."
• The line, "There's no right way to hit a woman," is from the episode "Charlie X." Shatner's subsequent attack on Leela ("the wrong way") parodies Kirk's often-used but pointlessly acrobatic combat style. During their fight, Leela lifts a large rock over her head to strike Shatner, as Kirk was menaced by Gary Mitchell in "Where No Man has Gone Before."
• Fry strikes Dr. McCoy with a two-fisted punch, used commonly in the series.
• Nimoy attempts to use the Vulcan nerve pinch (unsuccessfully) on Bender. (He should have realized that an attempt to use the nerve pinch on an android would be futile; in the episode "I, Mudd," Spock tries to use it on the android Alice without success.)
• At the climactic moment in the battle, when Leela is holding the rock above Shatner's body, she pauses in the same position in which Spock pauses when he holds the piece of transporter equipment over Kirk during his fight with Kirk in "This Side of Paradise."
• Shatner persuades Leela not to kill him by explaining to her that "this is exactly what Melllvar wants! We're just pawns in his diabolical game of checkers!" This is similar to the moment in "Day of the Dove" when Kirk persuades the Klingon commander Kang to cease the hostilities because they are just pawns in a game being played out by an energy being who feeds off violence. His mixed metaphor is an allusion to the fact that Kirk frequently uses metaphors involving board and card games.
• Fry remarks that Melllvar is "just a child," the same as Spock said of V'GerinStar Trek: The Motion Picture, or Kirk said of Trelane, in the episode "The Squire of Gothos." Melllvar being chastened by his energy-being mother is a parody of the climactic scene of the latter.
• When the battle ends, Shatner and Leela are shown making out, mocking Kirk's many relationships with women.
• When the combined Star Trek Cast/Planet Express ship tries to lift off the planet surface, it is too heavy. This is a reference to the episode "The Galileo 7," in which the damaged shuttlecraft cannot bear the weight of its entire crew.
• A starship that resembles the Romulan Warbird from "Balance of Terror" combined with a Klingon battlecruiser decloaks (using visual effects similar to the decloaking effects on Star Trek) and fires on the Planet Express ship.
• George Takei quotes a self-destruct code, similar to but not exactly matching the "Enterprise" self-destruct sequence seen in the episode "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" as well as in "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". The code causes Bender's head to explode.
• Fry's speech to Melllvar regarding moving out of his mother's basement is a reference to William Shatner's appearance on a Saturday Night Live skit where he tells obsessive fans to "Get a Life" and move out of their parents' basements.
• Kirk's speech "I wonder, my friends, was he really such an evil energy gas?" mimics the musing orations that Kirk gives at the end of many episodes.
• The line, "You and I are of a kind. In a different reality, I could have called you friend," is from the episode "Balance of Terror," which, as Melllvar corrects Fry, was episode nine of the series. Fry thought it was episode ten, which is actually What Are Little Girls Made Of?.
• The last line in the episode (spoken by Shatner) is, "Let's get the hell out of here." This same line was used by Kirk at the end of "The City on the Edge of Forever."
• The ending credits feature a song that musically evokes the Star Trek Fanfare, and plays back images from the episode; the last image is Kif Kroker in a parody of the famous "Balok puppet" from the episode "The Corbomite Maneuver," and whose image was the last seen in the ending credits for the entire second season of The Original Series.

• I really like this list and wish it could have been in the article itself. Not knowing it was here, I just tried to add a reference to the Vasquez Rocks and Omega 3, which was reverted as "unverified," although anyone watching the episode itself can see the obvious resemblance. Plot descriptions generally have no references (and there are none given here), but presumably are put up and left up when anyone who watches the video in question can see its accuracy without need of a secondary source. So I'm a little baffled about why these further points are not included. Is there a WP policy about only including the most important such details, or do they all really need secondary sources--even though for some claims like "the rocks resemble those at Vasquez" no secondary source could possibly be more reliable than simply watching the episode itself? I'm genuinely puzzled here about where the line(s) are being drawn here about what to include, or what to document, or not.ScottForschler (talk) 17:55, 24 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

• They really all need secondary sources. It's not our job to point out what we perceive as similarities, as that would be original research, but rather to point out intended similarities, as supported by reliable sources. Otherwise, how can we know that something we believe to be an intentional reference isn't merely coincidental? DonIago (talk) 01:03, 25 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

It's probably to trivial to go in the article, but it's interesting that they included the late DeForrest Kelly and simply didn't have him speak, but when James Doohan turned it down, they responded by creating a completely new character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daibhid C (talk • contribs) 16:51, 28 May 2008

• IMO of more interest: the article sounds confused, but is correct in calling Welshy an actor not a character. Should be made clearer tho: Welshy is a fictional Star Trek actor, as opposed to some other characters who are fictional versions of real Star Trek actors, and played by the corresponding real actors.
  --Jerzy•t 20:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
  

My survey suggests little basis for either spelling; i doubt IMDb is reliable on char names (presumably often supplied by fans who've heard the name in the work but not seen a full cast list, esp w/ TV), and the start of my Google search

208 for Welshie OR Welshy Futurama OR " Where No Fan Has Gone Before"

starts with abt 30 sites unrated (for security) by Norton... Specific credible sources would be a very good thing.
--Jerzy•t 20:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

He's not a child, he's 34.
that is melllvar's age on his planet, but if that planet can support humans it might be close to earth years.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.152.123.168 (talk) 02:43, 9 March 2009

• Uh, it's a broad parody of a soft-SF show, and you're relying on some unnamed law of nature about how long childhood can last in a species?
  --Jerzy•t 20:28, 8 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
  

Does anyone else see the similarities between Melllvar and Barash from the TNG episode Future Imperfect? -Jaardon (talk) 05:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

I just saw this episode for the first time and as someone with a good memory who has seen all the episodes of the original series, I saw quite the number of references not described in this article. Some were unquestionable, while others were quite questionable and I don't have sources for many of them. I actually think this article takes a good path in listing a lot of the references made, without trying to give an exhaustive list.

However, I feel the article is written as if the given list is exhaustive. Perhaps this article could use some rewriting to make it clearer that the given examples are just that, some examples of references in the episode... My name is Jasper (talk) 02:18, 31 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

This review is transcluded from Talk:Where No Fan Has Gone Before/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Johanna (talk · contribs) 01:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi again! Should review quite soon with the GA Cup starting! Johanna^{(talk to me!)} 01:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Comments

• In the infobox, change "season four" to "season 4"
• I don't think File:Futurama ep65.jpg is necessary. As the design of the Star Trek characters is not a heavy talking point in the article, I would remove it.
• First sentence of second paragraph: either remove the comma after "scrapped" or add an "it was" after "and"
• I would say "to feature the cast of Star Trek to avoid ambiguity.
• Although I think it will be known to most, I would put some indication in the image caption that Shatner's on the left and Nimoy's on the right.
• We can discuss this, but maybe a double image with that and File:David A. Goodman by Gage Skidmore 3.jpg?
• I would pepper ref 2 throughout that first Production paragraph when it is the source.
• The first sentence of the second paragraph, involving the director, got messed up somewhere and is a bit convoluted. Also, I would use another verb than "added" because it makes it sound like it was directly connected to something someone else said.
• "William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy recorded..." later in the sentence, it should be "usually" not "using"
• I would shorten that subsection to just be "cultural references"
• Refs are good per here.

@Miyagawa: Nice work! The only "major" thing for this article is the non-free file up top. Johanna^{(talk to me!)} 03:34, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Johanna: Thanks for the review. The non-free file isn't a big issue for me, it was simply there from prior to my work on this article and I would agree that it isn't a point of discussion so I've removed it. I've made those edits as suggested and pulled apart the director bit into two separate sentences. Thanks for pointing out that other image, as I'd missed that one - I've inserted it now. Miyagawa (talk) 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Miyagawa: Wonderful work! Pass. Johanna^{(talk to me!)} 03:12, 2 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a(prose, spelling, and grammar):  b(MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a(reference section):  b(citations to reliable sources):  c(OR):  d(copyvio and plagiarism):  

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a(major aspects):  b(focused):  

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:  

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:  

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a(images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):  b(appropriate use with suitable captions):  

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:  

This probably applies to a bunch of articles, but I've only seen this here, so far. I was about to correct the episode number, then saw this comment: "Please do not change. Production order, not airing order, is used here."

I'm leaving it alone, but I don't entirely agree with this decision. I know there are complications like broadcast order being different from the order on DVD releases (Firefly comes to mind), but in cases where there aren't discrepancies, intuitively people are going to think this refers to the broadcast order or episode number on the home release. The very next line is the production code, which can be deciphered pretty easily, so it's not like the information would be lost. I think changing the label from "Episode number" to something like "Broadcast order" (but less awkward sounding) is possibly a cleaner solution.

In this case, this is listed as episode 11, but it is the 12th episode on the home release (and I imagine, but don't actually know that it was broadcast 12th). Actually, I might be opening a can of worms with that point. Somebody would have to do the research.. All I'm saying is that the information is misleading as presented. Maybe it's a different label fix, and some of the information in that comment should be shown to the user. I thought it was wrong when I saw it. Thoughts?

...dissimilar username... (talk) 22:01, 4 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Given that this is an issue that would affect every single episode's article, I would recommend discussing the matter here rather than on this page. DonIago (talk) 06:22, 5 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Its romulan, not klingon KhlavKhalash (talk) 20:33, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

It links to an article about Klingon ships. If that article's incorrect, you should probably discuss the matter at the Talk page for it. DonIago (talk) 23:42, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

I believe this was episode 12 2601:547:8100:4FB0:21D5:416A:26F9:D37F (talk) 05:20, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

List of Futurama episodes. DonIago (talk) 06:51, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply