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I wasn't sure exactly how to alter the page, but Greenland currently has to government structure. As of recently, their government has collapsed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.222.215.92 (talk) 04:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
I didnt mean to reinstate the mistakes, i was trying to change something and it got all screwed up. i got his last name wrong. it's supposed to match Wahbi Al-Hariri. Sorry mate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aiafan (talk • contribs) 17:21, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello...Im sorry for doing that to Sade Adu, that was rude and insensitive. I should have known better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sade'sAMonkey (talk • contribs) 17:36, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Wow, when it comes to archiving you "go big or go home" eh?kelapstick (talk) 02:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I read those, interisting. The little guy liked house hunting, and we found something. Fries I over oysters, the horror, but I think I would have made the same call at that age.kelapstick (talk) 02:23, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
That's great, we got rid of ours when we moved to the US and haven't committed to a new set, it's only been a year...--kelapstick (talk) 02:29, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm so glad we've patched that up. Yeah, I do over-react at times, so it was probably my fault. Looking at your contributions you seem to be a devoted Wikipedian so I'll leave you to it. Peace! --Sky Attacker (talk) 03:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
P.S The name "Legendary" Sky Attacker, is just to be a bit different to everyone else. As for the username, it is possibly misleading. I really do intend the best for Wikipedia, I'm not want to attack it or its users (or the sky, in case your wondering, lol) --Sky Attacker (talk) 03:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
No worries. –Juliancolton | Talk 03:51, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I just thought I'd let you know that your sockpuppeteer attacker appears to have been a group of vandals at a University. That explains the fast vandalising. --Sky Attacker (talk) 06:19, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Drmies, Candlewicke has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
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Thank you very much for your kind comment at my DYK nomination. Much appreciated and it has cheered me up this morning! :) --candle•wicke 11:14, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
As a member of the Bilateral relations task force, you maybe interested in this new page: Wikipedia:WikiProject International relations/Bilateral relations task force/Deletion Ikip (talk) 17:39, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Do you know what's going on with the IP user on the Revision history of Ben Templesmith? I saw that you reverted an edit he made on this page, so when he added the same content again I reverted it back to your revision the first time, and now he has put it back again. I'm bringing this to you so an edit war doesn't need to start. Should I just keep reverting him anyway or is the edit simply constructive? --Sky Attacker (talk) 20:25, 3 May 2009 (UTC) IP=68.205.229.142 --Sky Attacker (talk) 20:29, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, the best way to notify an administrator of a vandal, is to report him at WP:AIV. Thanks for stopping by on my talk page. Until It Sleeps 20:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
"[SPK (band)|SPK]] was an early Industrial music band that helped shape the morbid, quasi journalistic aesthetic of the genre."
Graphic designers have subsequently used this aesthetic. It is seminal art, involving music as well as art, film, etc.. Achmedpurple (talk) 04:57, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I'll find some more refernces for it. I know it is a very sparse article, wish someone else would contribute. Achmedpurple (talk) 05:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Sure, it sounds crazy. Look up autoimmune on wikipedia. Read what I "vandalized". Are you sure? All four bullet points were completely irrational. Calling them bullshit wasn't pretty. Was it wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.156.234.125 (talk) 05:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Do you really think that my use of the passive voice was accidental? Why is it that so many wikipedians have aspergers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.156.234.221 (talk) 14:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I didn't expect my edits to stick. I also didn't know how to properly go about deleting that false and misleading information. I was hoping that the admin who noticed my edit would fix the whole section. My last edit did cite two biology textbooks, even if it wasn't in the appropriate place. I suppose it doesn't matter if wikipedia contains misleading medical advice, because most people will recognize it as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.156.234.221 (talk) 15:02, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Check this out. [[1]]. --Sky Attacker (talk) 06:04, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
IP has been blocked. --Sky Attacker (talk) 06:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Re: John Stuart Mill: Thanks for your input on the edits. I can't seem to get the hyperlink to work properly at the bottom of the page. Can you have a look at them for me?
I might extend the section on economic philosophy a little bit because its a fairly central part of his whole philosophical project, so your edits, input, etc. on that would be great. Sorry for getting stuck into a bit of tug-of-war on those edits, I am a newbie and still getting used to wikipedia. I just hope its clear that I wasn't trying to put in anything that was false, or biased, etc. Stevesawalker (talk) 08:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Now, look at the code: you'll see that a complete template, filled out as much as possible, looks much better as a reference. Look around and you'd have found the date and author at the bottom, for instance. As for that section, there is an issue there, and that's that there is a main article. In the main article on Mill, these sub-sections ought to be brief, and as you can tell from the history, I've tried to economize considerably. So don't expand too much, that's my advice. Perhaps you could try to find a better reference for that flat taxation thing, one whose authority is more clear (for more information, see WP:RS, for instance). Take care, Drmies (talk) 14:16, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
What do you make of this new article? ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:19, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Drmies, and welcome to WikiProject Bilateral relations! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles relevant to the relations between two countries. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We hope you enjoy working on this project. Ikip (talk) 05:13, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
Welcome to the project. Ikip (talk) 05:13, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Please see User_talk:76.185.42.146 to read my response.
While not fluent in German, I'm pretty good at finding sources and have a couple friends fluent in german. Is there any way I could help? Soxwon (talk) 14:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Thats cool, it might just scrape a DYK. I'm afraid the Jesus article will need more in it I think. Dr. Blofeld White cat 17:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Haha that's funny LOL Dr. Blofeld White cat 17:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
How about this source? Dr. Blofeld White cat 17:25, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh yeah I didn't realise you were the one who helped with uliger. Yeah you can see I'm about as exotic and diverse as anybody on english wikipedia with my interests. That's what makes this site so cool. You can start a silent Dutch film one minute, an Argentine lake the next and a Mongolian literature article the next! I'm about to upload some PD early Dutch film images including an image of Mullens so go for it. Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Page numbers should be used for books. See WP:CITE. First source had no page numbers. Regarding the second source I looked at it and could see no mention of a "problem of evil". Of course, almost any source mentioning evil will also discuss problems. Any problem can be seen as evil. But there was no mention of a definition of a specific "problem of evil". If you have a quote, then could you please state it.Ht686rg90 (talk) 22:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
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See ASCII porn ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:56, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
If you were being serious by your edit comment, I think you want Template:Globalize. --Cybercobra (talk) 00:34, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Not as exciting as ASCII porn I admit, but this might also be something for which you have an intimate knowledge and impressive expertise. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:38, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for the support. — BQZip01 — talk 02:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
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In an effort to stop you from completing any work I wonder if I could get you to look at this [3]?ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:00, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
"The End of Baconmania: Our Long Coronary Nightmare Is Almost Over" [4]. Although this story says bacon is kicking butt and taking names on the social media front [5]. I just don't know what to believe any more. Where can I get fair and balanced news coverage??? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:00, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, I decided to move the article to J-D's Down Home Enterprises, I have a bit of history in the sandbox, and if we have multiple editors I want to keep the articles history correct, rather than a cut-paste , there is only one source in the article now, I am putting the others on the talk page. I will leave it in you and CoM's capable hands, and I look forward to its DYK.--kelapstick (talk) 18:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
This article [6] from the New York Times about a restaurant serving a dish termed "the conflicted jew" that involves bacon wrapped chicken livers as well as some other pork jowling fare seems very notable but I'm not sure where to include it. Any suggestions? Happy to see Geo and the Dr. bringing sexy back. If you can get a photo of yourselves wearing a bacon bra that would be a very encyclopedic illustration for our articles. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:42, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I like the J&D's article. I started one on a bacon book of some sort. The book at the bottom of the mania page is also notable I believe. How could it not be? I think this quote sums up my feelings: " I'm very excited at the possibility of the hipsters moving along to the next shiny thing and leaving the bacon where it belongs - in my belly. Nothing to see here, move along. Bacon has always and will always be awesome. Celery is only good for garnish in bacon bloody marys." I say beware of foreign elitists and socialists glomming onto the bacon craze for their hipster commie purposes... ;) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
You already explained on talk, there's no problems. Soxwon (talk) 18:26, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Desperate times, desperate measures... [7]. See also Bacon: A Love Story. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:24, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm hoping to keep the conversation about this article active and avoid the usual fleeing from a topic that takes place after an AfD has closed. There was much talk about merging this article but little agreement on where to merge it to. Therefore I am informing everyone who participated in the debate of the ongoing conversation here in order to bring this matter to a close sometime in our lifetimes. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Congrats on getting the page up to featured status. Now I hope you'll get back to important stuff. Bongomatic 04:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I think it is capable of being a stand alone article, it is the first product produced by J-D's Down Home Enterprises, that launched the company and most of the press centres around it...what do you think?
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Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 17:33, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
LOL and its the main DYK too LOL! Dr. Blofeld White cat 17:43, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Drmies. I hope you don't mind, I'm just testing my new signature to see how it looks. --The Legendary Sky Attacker 01:13, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I did. You can see it on his talk page. If it is still there. Thanks. --The Legendary Sky Attacker 06:44, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm back biatch!!! Get ready to party. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:06, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
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Gatoclass (talk) 12:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Can you check this out and make sure it all looks okay so I can notify some of the non-cabal editors who might want to participate [8]? Feel free to add rules, commentary, formatting, or whatever. It also has an active talk page (but no meta-talk page). Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh and I just stumbled across De Beleefde Big, "star of eponymous program on Flemish broadcaster VTM". Might be an easy translation? Do those count for DYK and the KBC2009? More info available at List of pigs, List of fictional pigs, and Pigs I Have Known. I guess I'm getting a little far afield from bacon. I pledge to refocus. I'm also hoping to get to the to-do list at the bottom of the welcome template when I get a chance, but it keeps updating every time I load my talk page. So much to do, so little time. How's bacon as a hangover remedy? ChildofMidnight (talk) 08:02, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Why am I tempted to add Yngwie Malmsteen to this list?Dr. Blofeld (talk) 08:22, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
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Shubinator (talk) 14:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
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rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 04:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Glad you are having fun. I've done a fair but of work on earlier Argentine films myself, many of them contain notable Argentine tango performers and composers.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 08:21, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
I think there is room for a lot more clean up. In my opinion, he meets notabiity criteria. — ERcheck (talk) 01:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I am packing, I move on Saturday, so I may be off and on...but more off.--kelapstick (talk) 04:55, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
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The bacon crust pizza with bacon and Strasburg pie (both about halfway down the page) could soon be very notable [9]. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
↵Do you think that "when monkeys fly out of my butt" should be added to that article? Bongomatic 03:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Had to start a new section, wouldn't fit on the screen of my iPod. I have been pretty tied up with packing for this Saturdays move. Also working on the bacon challenge, by the way, Bongo what are you going to submit? I see you haven't signed on yet. kelapstick (talk) 05:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Settle down, people. A period may be a small thing to some of you, but to others it is huge--see here, for instance. If this willful vandalism continues, I'll have no choice but to start a talk page for this talk page, and no one wants to see that. K-stick, in case you need any more periods, you can have some of mine: ....................................... Drmies (talk) 16:16, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
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ENT Hospital Kolkata,India.I think this article shuld be tagged for deletion for a number of reasons. What are your thoughts? --The Legendary Sky Attacker 05:58, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
It appears to have gone already, that was FAST! --The Legendary Sky Attacker 05:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, so the Lucifugum page was finally deleted at AfD, after a series of speedies. It was obviously recreated immediately and speedied under G4 and salted. Then an article was created under Lucifugum (band) with the same material, so again speedied and salted. Now yet another single purpose account has been created today and is adding Lucifugum to the black metal page repeatedly. I don't want to get into an edit war over those, so I'm just going to let other editors deal with it this time. My question is a) do you think that the various SPAs involved in Lucifugum related edits are probable socks, and b) is the behaviour sufficiently disruptive to warrant an investigation to confirm that they are (removal of ref/notability/AfD tags, blanking pages, moderately abusive language etc.)? I've never come across a situation like this and am not totally sure how to proceed. The SPAs that basically exclusively use Wikipedia to push Lucifugum are:
There are quite possibly others, including some IPs. What are your thoughts? Blackmetalbaz (talk) 17:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately, my RFA was closed recently with a final tally of 75½/38/10. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your support and I hope I can count on it in the future. Even though it didn't pass, it had a nearly 2 to 1 ratio of support and I am quite encouraged by those results. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral !votes and see what I can do to address those concerns that were brought up and resubmit in a few months. If you would like to assist in my betterment and/or co-nominate me in the future, please let me know on my talk page. Special thanks go to Schmidt, MICHAEL Q., TomStar81, and henrik for their co-nominations and support. — BQZip01 — talk |
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The content keeps getting taken off this webpage by advocates who say that parental alienation doesn't exist. The credentials of Prof. Bala were put on to prevent the previous complaints that newspaper articles aren't sufficient sources or authorities for use on Wikipedia. Thus, I took of the Globe and Mail reference. Do you have any ideas on how to stop those frequent attacks on that page? They have destroyed it over time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JaniceMT (talk • contribs) 04:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Drmies. [[10]] I got my first WikiLove today. --The Legendary Sky Attacker 05:27, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
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Orlady (talk) 23:21, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
why do you think it is vadalism when I support it with references that also get deleted. it my post that phil jackson is ovarrated with reference gets pulled so should the parts about him being the greatest coach. why is it different. He is overrated, I posted a source to back up my claim. someone else thinks he is one of the greatest. I am not vandalizing the section I am adding conflicting info to what someone else may think is true. I have posted a source to back up my claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.172.145.218 (talk • contribs)
http://www.chinmusicpress.com/books/doyouknow/voices/news/2008/11/lae_phil_please_just_shut_up.html
http://www.tickettip.com/blog/phil-jackson-is-an-overrated-coach-agreed/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.172.145.218 (talk) 04:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I feel like I'm really part of the team now. After reverting edits by a vandalism-only account I get [[11]] and [[12]] and finally [[13]]. --The Legendary Sky Attacker 08:53, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
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[14] I didn't say her statment on faith was ambivalent, but her statement regarding adhering to a specific religion that led to the conclusion drawn by the editor to call her a deist was. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:59, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
My pleasure - any time. :-) --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 15:26, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
While you are on the topic what do you think about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Whitebeak, simultaneously up for speedy deletion, I think I could sell 50 copies world wide of albums of me singing...if I tried.--kelapstick (talk) 18:30, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Your user page just got vandalised. A christmas tree is a new one. --The Legendary Sky Attacker 22:01, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I have tried on numerous occasions to reach out to the other party: Sloanlier to discuss the issues involved. Sloanlier continues to ignore my comments and simply undoes my edits. The runoff election is tomorrow, May 19th, and he is trying to slip in edits at the last minute to mislead voters. For the primary election, which was March 3rd, he did the same thing.
Please help.
Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.79.166.64 (talk) 22:09, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
This is Sloanlier:
My edits of today constitute returning language and sources that meet Wikipedia's guidelines.
This language and prior contributions I have made have repeatedly been vandalized.
I don't know what kind of discussion I can have with people who continually violate Wikipedia's guidelines.
Perhaps, if the apparent adherents of Jack Weiss will not follow Wikipedia's guidelines, the article should be removed.
Thank you,
Sloanlier —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sloanlier (talk • contribs) 22:21, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
As an expert on all thing Dutchian, please have a look. ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Also, is this Eckankar related to this hotdish? (Both from Minnesota) ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:43, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Have you ever seen anything like this? [16] There are about fifteen socks on this page. --The Legendary Sky Attacker 20:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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Fabrictramp | talk to me 18:51, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
This is serious business, the Pokemon community is astir, and when are these important questions going to be answered:
Are you going to AfD it? Seriously is it that big a controversy? Can Pokemon be controversial, aside from Drunkachu, Pikachu's alcoholic uncle on his father's side (that nobody talks about, but always gets invited to Thanksgiving dinner).--kelapstick (talk) 22:01, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
[17]. And K-stick has a 3-car garage M.F. That's how he rolls!!! Keepin' it real in the other Sunshine state. And he's getting satellite radio too. So he can get Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter on the commute. Does she have a radio show? No? How about Dennis Miller?Stephen Baldwin? Maybe Dick Cheney will get one. You'd listen right? You Phil Donahue loving M.F. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:53, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Seems to be topic on which you have some expertise, and I noticed they are from your neck of the woods. Are you in Alabama still? I forget. Summer then football. Life is good. Looks like it's going to be another big year for Auburn. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:13, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
No speedy; we have WP:NFT, which I normally put in as a prod. Ironholds (talk) 04:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Whinnegar? Seems a subject that you guys must have expertise on. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:45, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
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In the last 8 days my user page has been vandalized 16 times.--The Legendary Sky Attacker 00:57, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Now 18. +2 vandalisms.--The Legendary Sky Attacker 07:03, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
No problem. I hope Alyssa is over her sadness now and that she only remembers the good times. Rossrs (talk) 01:42, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Having a somewhat minor problem with the Assück page in that SPAs (in this case an IP and a newly created account claiming to be a member of the band) are constantly removing sourced material (genre, obviously... what else?!) from Terrorizer and Maximumrocknroll because they don't like how the journalists have described them. Just a heads-up. The page is something of a headache as it is, as they have no website, no decent biographies exist and I'm struggling to find interviews. Terrorizer and Maximumrocknroll obviously consider them important, so I suspect they pass WP:MUSIC. I've added what I can in terms of sources (even if people do keep removing them) but if you spot anything else let me know. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 11:47, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Cosette Goldstein. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").
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Thanks a lot for opening up discussion. As for your points, I'm uncertain as to what your basis is for "better," but IMO, I think that "Jennie_Garth.jpg" is better because it's more related to her profession, which is what the article primarily discusses. As for being recent, there are only a few months separating the dates that each picture was taken, so it's not really an issue from my viewpoint. -- 4.249.84.8 (talk) 04:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
What about this source [18] that calls Connie Bea and Estelle the "Mobile version of Julia Child and Martha Stewart"??? A long running show, on one of ONLY two channels in the city at that time? Why Doc would you hate on Alabama? ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
More great news. I uncovered this from the article history. Wait until you read about her family connections!!! [19]. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm coming up with hits here as well: Small Town Papers (3 titles) 25 News - The Lamar Democrat and Sulligent News (AL) 19 News - The Tuskegee News (AL) 3 News - The Florala News (AL) 3 But best of all I got you access to her obit and that of her partner in cooking show crime for cheap! See the AfD. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
[21], you put your username instead of the name of the troll--Jac16888Talk 18:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Bernie Madoff is an alumnus? Bwahahahaha!!! I can't wait to hear you explain this one away. GO TIGERS!!!
Hey Genovese said Hank Aaron is related to Estella Payton (Aaron's from Mobile too right?). No word yet on Walter, but he could be a cousin... I'm finding sources left and right. More articles to come on the show and its notable guests. Is it worth upgrading my "discussional indicator of preference" to speedy keep? That food looks awfully good! Thank goodness for the pioneering Southern cooks and fixtures of the area's cuisine who established such wonderful culinary traditions. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Also, Gentleman Jack needs your help (Genovese created it so be nice for a change!). I guess more peeps are needed on new page patrol. I used to help out there before the drain of time in dealing with grotesque policy violators, wikilawyers, harassers, POV pushers, and vandals started distracting me. ;) ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
"Madoff graduated from Far Rockaway High School in 1956 and attended the University of Alabama for one year where he became a brother of the Tau Chapter of the Sigma Alpha Mu". Clearly this was a pivotal time in his life and helped establish his world view and approach to "business". And he's a fellow Democrat is he not? And with an impressive record of major philanthropic gifts? Isn't that just the sort of generous communalism you identify with and support? I mean compared to Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Pelosi, he probably qualifies as a saint. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
The CalCon AfD closed as no consensus? There were no good points on the keep side, just some online forums and the threat of being seen as elitists. kelapstick (talk) 04:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
[22][23] Phil Bridger (talk) 17:39, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
The AFD for Cal Con, which you participated in, was recently closed as no consensus. I have requested a deletion review at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 May 26#Cal Con. -- Whpq (talk) 18:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Cheers, –Juliancolton | Talk 21:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
You seem to have your hands full, but the time has come. Has it not? What happens now? When the clock strikes midnight (wherever Wikipedia's clock happens to be located) can I start moving articles to mainspace? Are you with me? K-Stick appears to be too busy driving around listening to satellite radio, lusting after the power to block me, to be much help. ALL HANDS ON DECK!!! ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:36, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
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--PFHLai (talk) 06:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
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--PFHLai (talk) 05:49, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Regarding the message you left on my talk page, I was only following this Manual of Style guideline. Although it is currently disputed, at the moment it doesn't matter whether the article is written in American English or not. Mm40 (talk) 16:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
This bit- "on essay constructing a guideline" -needs a "tweak" (I might have been the one to mess it up). I liked the age joke, but maybe it's okay to take it out? Sorry about mucking about in your nom statement. I misunderstood the co-nom process. My bad. I see some "to"s and a "that" I want to take out, but I will try to restrain myself. How was your first and second day? MQS and I are discussing a film project that you might be able to fund with your summer haul. All it needs is a script. Life is good! Speaking of which, what's cooking? Best to the girls. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:58, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
No worries! It's hard to keep up with all the edits and who's who on some of the pages. This is just a particularly complicated one because so few of the contributing editors seem to have any idea what they're talking about. ;) Commander Zulu (talk) 01:17, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I put up the BC2009 hooks at DYK under May 27. I was hoping someone else was going to do it but... well... :) Given your extensive expertise at nomming *cough*, I was hoping you'd have a look and fix up anything that looks off. I didn't include anyone except the creator/ expander, but if it's still allowed to include substantial contributors/ editors feel free to adjust. More photos would be cool too. I hope I didn't mess up anything too badly. At one point the entire DYK page ended at the peanut butter banana and bacon sandwich, but Wikipedia appears to still be functioning post my formatting work... I'm going to go pick up my Ferrari from the rental place. So I'll yap at you later. Have a fantastic weekend. And stay out of trouble. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:52, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I just thought I'd let you know that a certain IP address that frequently edits the Daeg Faerch article, is Daeg himself. His edits are not vandalism... why would he vandalize his own page? This has been discussed before.
As for the other IP, I don't know who it is, but I'd call his edits vandalism. I think we should just let Daeg edit the article however he wants and not challenge his edits. PF4Eva (talk) 22:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I hadn't meant to put in the word "biography". I think I was tired. Anyway, this is the cookbook [26] that I believe the other editor is referring to in saying it doesn't mention bacon in the PBBS. It might be nice to mention it in the article to appease them, and to indicate there may be some question about whether bacon included. But I suppose it can be discussed on the article talk page or with the user who was unhappy about the incorporation of the Elvis Sandwich into the PBBBS (two editors I think). As I told the K-man, I think there's some cause for caution and it's best not to present legend as fact, although there is a source that clearly says bacon was part of sandwich. I don't trust it because it doesn't even go with a consistent sliced or mashed banana. Does this make it dubious or am I reading too much into it? When you make your PBBBS do you mash or slice? Does it depend on the ripeness of the banana? Would you ever include honey? I am sooooo tired. G'night!!! ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:50, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
That IP is Daeg himself, actually. Its gone now, but he left me a message on his official MySpace when I was removing the stuff about him being in the Halloween sequel after Rob Zombie took him off. So its not intentional vandalism/disruption, at the very least. That being said, he is adding a bit of unsourced and trivial stuff, and it is getting to be a hassle, so maybe one of us should report him next time he does it? At this point, maybe it would be best if he was prevented from editing the article and cleaning it up from there.--CyberGhostface (talk) 18:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. As you might have noticed I had an impersonator on another Wiki. And my user page vandalism count is up to 20! I must be doing something right.--The Legendary Sky Attacker 01:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
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Dravecky (talk) 02:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Doc, sorry to let you down but I think we will all agree that withdrawing the nom was the best course of action at the time. Looks like I have some work ahead of me but at least I won't be bored. Probably talk to you Monday. I'm going to grab a beer, cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 05:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Drmies. I hope you don't mind me asking but do you two and CoM know each other off-wiki. Just curious.--The Legendary Sky Attacker 05:47, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
I took lots of photos so you and MQS can see what you missed and live vicariously through my adventures. Many of the photos are intended to be encyclopedic, of course, so they don't capture the true drama and excitement of my Art Walk experiences. I will try to upload them to Flickr if I can make room on my PC.
I hit the Miracle Mile and West Hollywood. I think I got hit on twice. Once by a woman and once in West Hollywood. Rock on brother. Nice job on your noms. Thanks for leading the charge on that. Mad respect. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
I noticed your post on Kelapstick's talk page. In the case of the two articles in question, the larger issues are the copyright violations, which is an official Wikipedia policy. By the way, plagiarism is more than just about failing to give proper citations. Plagiarism includes the passing off of others' wording as original. So from the WP guideline on plagiarism: "Plagiarized content can include facts, wording [emphasis mine], ideas, and structure. Even if a source is cited, plagiarism also occurs when text is directly copied without proper attribution." Citations provide proper attribution for when the thoughts and ideas for the text comes from somewhere else. Quotation marks provide proper attribution for when the wording of the text comes from somewhere else. In the two articles that I highlighted, the scant modifications to the source text and the presentation of them without quotation marks represent both a coypright violation (the sources were all copyrighted) and plagiarism (the wording was not properly attributed). Was that helpful? BuddingJournalist 06:18, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
At best, as I have argued, we have improper paraphrasing, and to create a whole bunch of drama at someone's RfA; to say that they don't know the guidelines when the guidelines are admittedly vague or, really, missing (as in the case of WP:Plagiarism); to torpedo an RfA by slapping Copyvio templates on articles where any editor, any editor, could have fixed a perceived problem by inserting a few quotation marks or paraphrasing a word or two, well, that's just beyond my understanding. No need to apologize for hijacking my talk page--though as you can tell, I feel that you have some explaining to do on other issues. (Yes, I did read your explanation above, and I understand your reading of plagiarism, and I don't agree with the conclusions you drew from that interpretation.)
If editors are expected to know all this, it should be clearly spelled out in WP:Plagiarism, so that they don't have to dig it out from Google searches, Signposts, or Hacker's guide--or learn it at their RfA. It's the rhetorical heights the RfA debate was taken to that really bother me, besides the lack of clear policy. Drmies (talk) 15:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::::I feel like we're rat-holing on some of the more gray areas of plagiarism here...however, I take issue your "to torpedo an RfA by slapping Copyvio templates on articles where any editor, any editor, could have fixed a perceived problem by inserting a few quotation marks or paraphrasing a word or two, well, that's just beyond my understanding"...
←Actually, I was referring to Ottava Rima's approach, to raise the issues by opposing the RfA instead of either asking a question in the RfA or addressing it directly with the editor first. Bongomatic 03:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
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