Mellk

Hello. Could you please look at this article and the currently ongoing edit war? 212.3.130.232 (talk) 20:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

This editor has for a long time been making unsourced and disruptive changes. If it continues and they do not respond on their talk page, please raise this on WP:ANI. Mellk (talk) 16:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

While I agree with the removal of Volodymyr from the category (the Principality of Volhynia isn't exactly "Ukraine"), I don't see why Chyhyryn, Baturyn, and Hlukhiv should be removed. They were all capitals of the Cossack Hetmanate, which can be considered the first Ukrainian state. In some documents of the period (such as the Constitution of Pylyp Orlyk) the Hetmanate is actually called Ukraine. Shwabb1 (talk) 15:23, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

From my understanding, this category is a subcat of Category:Former national capitals which is intended for former capitals of modern nations. The first bulletpoint for not included in the criteria says:

• Former capitals of countries that no longer exist (see Category:Capitals of former nations), unless they were also capitals of yet-existing countries.

Since the Hetmanate went out of existence and those capitals did not become capitals of Ukraine later, I am not sure if they should be included. But the criteria is not as clear as I would like. Perhaps we can include those cities in Category:Capitals of former nations instead? Mellk (talk) 16:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, the criteria are somewhat ambiguous. Looking at the other "Former capitals" categories, I see that some of them include cities that don't even exist anymore (e.g., Tigranocerta from 1st century BC for Armenia). And Category:Former capital cities in India includes over 200 pages!

Including the capitals of the Hetmanate in Category:Capitals of former nations makes sense, but applying the same to all the other categories might take a while... Shwabb1 (talk) 17:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I am not opposed to including them again to Category:Former capitals of Ukraine (if we want to have a loose definition of "country") since it is not applied evenly but we would just need to include a hatnote explaining this (e.g. "this category is for former capitals of Ukraine since the establishment of the Cossack Hetmanate"). At least until someone sorts out the parent category. Mellk (talk) 17:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm fine with either option (Category:Capitals of former nationsorCategory:Former capitals of Ukraine+hatnote), as long as these three cities are presented as former capitals somewhere. Everything considered, I'm not certain which choice is better. Shwabb1 (talk) 17:34, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

[1] and Talk:Crimea#Many_more_pro-Russian_protesters. Rsk6400 (talk) 13:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

You wrote in the edit summary: "Removing the misleading first sentence: Occupation was not caused by protests". But, the text does not say this. Therefore, you were reverted for using a misleading edit summary. Mellk (talk) 13:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Respectfully, what in God's name made you think to remove all the information about participants in the Russian Civil War from the wikibox? It's good and useful information, especially with the links to other pages. You should really stop this. Koss1919 (talk) 18:13, 4 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

There was a RfC on the talk page that just ended. Here is what the closer wrote: The outcome of this RfC is that editors may put in option B, and after they have done so, may further edit option B to reduce the bloat. Editors are asked please not to restore option A or make edits that increase the rendered size or byte count of the infobox. We are not supposed to restore option A or add to the infobox because it was bloated. Mellk (talk) 18:15, 4 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did with this edittoName of Ukraine and this edittoIryna Farion, you may be blocked from editing. TheWestBelongsToUkraine (talk) 21:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oh, then what? Mellk (talk) 21:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

He must be blocked Marcus Master (talk) 16:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yes, they were blocked. Mellk (talk) 16:16, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

First of all, my updates were much more relevant to scientific point of view, you better leave comment why there is ignorant and propagandistic part of wiki could be left this way instead of using more objective and more scientific points. We can discuss via email, or add your comment what should be proved with link or so Marcus Master (talk) 16:10, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I would suggest to check the WP policies first. You keep making unsourced changes. See WP:V. Mellk (talk) 16:11, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

You already received several warnings for this as well, with the relevant links for guidance, but you are still repeating this behavior. Mellk (talk) 16:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)Reply