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In reading all of the general and more specific articles on DPR of N. Korea, many subjects such as education and literacy do not correspond to independent reports of visitors. IE: close to 100% literacy seems barely possible, article reports of grade attainment and the statement that "English and Russian were required subjects from middle school" is both uncorroborated and inconsistent. A recent book a woman, Suki Kim, who spent two years teaching in an elite secondary school said that "the internet was unknown to these students" which implies that the vast compendium of English language sources would also be unavailable. The is no logic to requiring English comprehension if the state is excercising strict control of information to their population.
Several articles on this subject in Wikipedia seem more like the official line of the DPR, without even a strong caveat that this is the case. An example is the sentence that "heuristic education methods are used." The word sounds like pragmatism but with only a bare sentence as a source, it is meaningless to readers. This line, and others, were from something called "Country Studies" from the Library of Congress, which does not constitute inherently valid reports for this encyclopedia
In a closed society such as DPR of N.K. certain events such as their famines, because of international aid can be researched and reported with confidence of validity. Educational methods, literacy based on internal surveys, and other data that are subjects of propaganda ministries even in democracies should not be presented as factual in the absence of independent validation. Arodb (talk) 17:25, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
With the brouhaha concerning Sony Pictures Entertainment, do we have an article that covers Bureau 121? -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 11:27, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
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I had an Uncle Pvt. Edward Donald Howser born Oct 2, 1931 in Rochester New York and was killed in Action maybe abt July 16, 1950. This is where it gets strange, I just received the org OBIT from a family member, and it says that my Uncle Edward 18 years old at that time was seen 2 days before he went missing in a Associated Press Dispatch participating in a Reconnaissance mission with the US Army Engineers, that would place the date abt July 13 or 14th of July. He was a Dynamite Juggler blowing up bridges along the line of a Red Advance. He had been assigned to the 3rd Armored Division, Corps of Engineers. I need to know how I can get that film, ( Press Dispatch ) does anyone know how I my find it and I have searched all over looking for infor and other soldiers that may have served with Edward, and can't find any infor about this group of Brave young men, please help our family get some answers, we really need to see the Press Release, any help, and infor, would be much loved by the family, please help us! De, please answer to medevil5@yahoo.com Gidget12345 (talk) 19:36, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
On the subject of missing current news articles, someone should write that up. Would make for a nice DYK. It has gained enough notoriety and coverage to be notable. Plus, Category:Scandals in South Korea needs more content... and South Korea is missing entirely from Category:Controversies by country. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:05, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Interested editors may want to expand Draft:Macadamia nuts controversy. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:05, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
I moved it to mainspace and nominated for T:TDYK. While some c/e is still needed (I am a bit unclear about who was fired - attendant, or flight chief? Some sources refer to "purser"...) it is mostly ready. One final to-do: apparently commons:Category:Macadamia nuts as food doesn't have any pictures of Korean macadamia-nuts brands (or any macademia nuts in packs at all). If someone could buy a packet or two, photograph it and upload to Commons, it would be quite helpful in illustrating this. Regarding Heather Cho, Google Images shows some free pictures at [1], but I am nos sure which one is of hers (if any). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:29, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Now also discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Macadamia nuts controversy. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:40, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
As it is a potentially controversial topic, some expansion would be nice. In particular, I focused on the history period, so the information on modern slavery, both in the North and South, could use expansion. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:48, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi all. In early 2014 I uploaded File:Park Geun-hye and South Korean delegation receive Stephen Harper and Canadian delegation on 11 March 2014.jpg. I've identified all the Canadian individuals, but only one of the three South Korean individuals in this photo. If anybody recognizes the two unidentified individuals, could you update the file description. Thank you. Mindmatrix 20:08, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello. There's been a long (and now, kind of hard to follow) discussion in the popular culture working group about the current reliable sources list. There are some concerns that some of the sources probably shouldn't be on the list or, at least, should have limitations appended to them. For instance, MWAVE is published by CJ, which has direct links to many, many singers & kpop groups. This make is unsuitable for establishing notability, but probably fine for general reliability. There are also some that may be a little too tabloid-ish to be on the list. For instance, I can attest that Metro Seoul is a tabloid. It's given away for free in the mornings near subway entrances and is front-to-back gossip. Anyway, we've been trying to have a discussion of it and would like to have it with all of you, too, since you're the ones that drew up the list. :) Instead of trying to navigate the long mess on the popular culture wg page, I'd like to get something going on the reliable sources talk page. Is that okay? Please join in, as I think it's really valuable to get everyone's information and points of view on each source. :) Shinyang-i (talk) 01:40, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
I am often discussing those topics with my students, but despite them being at university, their English is often not good enough for them to understand this. If I could refer them to Korean language sources, it would be very helpful:
I am sure Korean Wikipedia would benefit from having those policies there as well. Thanks! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:37, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
You are invited to participate in a discussion about the best way to describe the nationalities of bi-national group Exo (band). There has been a recent edit war on the subject. Join in here: Talk:Exo (band). Thanks for your input! Shinyang-i (talk) 00:31, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
It's North Korea's recently funded space program. Tetra quark (talk) 17:38, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I ran across a couple of articles that were tagged as high importance for WP Korea. The thing is, they were tagged as such by someone who is, as far as I can tell, not a member of this project (no big deal), but I can't fathom how these could be considered high importance in any project, let alone this one, as the subject matter barely relates to Korea at all. Both articles are about an annual international music festival held that year in South Korea. See ABU TV Song Festival 2012 and ABU Radio Song Festival 2012 Those kind of events are a dime a dozen in Korea. It even had a picture of TVXQ so old the member lineup was definitely not the one that performed at the event. So what is the etiquette in this situation? Can an individual editor like me change the importance (I'd put it as "low" for WP Korea), or should we get a consensus here, or should we just ignore it? I don't know the proper protocol. Thanks for any feedback. Shinyang-i (talk) 11:59, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
This discussion has been sitting around for awhile Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Reliable sources#Korea.com and Mwave forums and I don't know what to do at this point. Can I go ahead and update the sources page as proposed? Barely anyone spoke up, as is usually the case. Can someone provide some guidance? Thanks! Shinyang-i (talk) 03:21, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Please comment at Talk:Kim Chi-ha. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:19, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
See the Talk:Gugija Cha#Requested move 4 March 2015. I think it should change the article's name from "Gugija_Cha" to "Gugijacha" like other articles for korean tea. The proposal was rejected. How shall I do it? Thanks. --Idh0854 (talk) 10:44, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
This disambig is missing a reference to whatever Korean station is using this abbreviation. See File:Choe Kwang-shik (7934136338).jpg (this is a Korean station, right?). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:55, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
I just wanted to mention this discussion taking place about whether 60 or so articles on Korean colleges should be deleted for lack of notability. I am strongly against these proposed deletions and am interested in hearing the opinions of other members of this wikiproject. Rystheguy (talk) 08:41, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
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The Wikiproject North Korea and Wikiproject South Korea pages have been moved back to their original place as working groups of Wikiproject Korea. However...
Thanks! Shinyang-i (talk) 02:40, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Okay, you guys might think I'm dumb, but I had no idea WP:ROK existed. There is an entire other Wikiproject for South Korea (born in 2010), and I only learned this because I saw someone tag a new article with its banner. All of the Korea-related content "infrastructure" is part of this WP, not that one. There are thousands of South Korea-related articles tagged with this project's banner, not that one, but can you imagine seeing an article with both WP KOREA and WP ROK's tags? From an organizational point of view, having both projects seems ... not good. It looks little-used though one editor is actively tagging for it and it has some 500 articles in it. Any comments, insights, etc? Shinyang-i (talk) 05:03, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
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Hi,
I just need to point out that references are needed for notable enlistments (such as Lee Sungmin of Super Junior) in the Conscription in South Korea page.
Thanks!
Tibbydibby (talk) 20:01, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I'm sure that many of you will be interested to express their opinion at User talk:Plumber#North Korea, Talk:Kim Il-sung#Terentii Shtykov - First Leader of North Korea and Talk:List of leaders of North Korea about the claim that a Soviet general, Terentii Shtykov, served as the first Supreme Leader of North Korea. --Sundostund (talk) 13:51, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
In English wikipedia, we just merged category:Troastocategory:Troad, see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_March_18#Category:Troas. I was unable to merge the Wikidata items (Q8873435, Q10099976) because ko wiki still has two categories: ko:분류:트로아스 and ko:분류:트로아드. Unless there is a useful distinction between them, please could someone initiate a merger in ko wiki? – Fayenatic London 15:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
I created a stub about this forgotten Seoul's neighbourhood. Not sure if this shouldn't be moved to Guryong Village, and a disambig created in its place? I think the corresponding ko wiki article is ko:구룡마을. Feel free to expand. Also, commons page commons:구룡마을 should probably be converted into a category. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:09, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
We are going through an overhaul on the No Gun Ri Massacre article, and I would like to include a translation of the name of the event in Korean. I don't speak Korean, nor does anyone else working on the project. Any help is greatly appreciated. Timothyjosephwood (talk) 18:37, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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Last year I wrote Korea Queer Culture Festival. Sadly, the organizers ignored my emails and (during the festival) in-person requests to use CC license for their media. Someone could add some coverage of the recent events (parade banned by police this year), but I am moving on to other topics. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:41, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I am improving The Arabic article of Joseon and I Just miss the sources to write a small paragraph about the Royalty. Could someone please notes some English sources about the royal family, its origin, sub-clans, and General information? Thank you.--Sayom (talk) 20:54, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
{{WikiProject South Korea}} and {{WikiProject North Korea}} project banners still exist, even though the unilateral creation of these projects have been reverted to being taskforces of WPKOREA. Indeed WPNORTHKOREA's banner is broken, since none of the associated article rating categories exist. Can we have a bot replace all instances of these banners with WPKOREA's banner, and delete all the inappropriate article-rating categories? -- 70.51.202.183 (talk) 06:06, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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Hi to all,
Hope you are doing well. I am coming over from No Gun Ri Massacre, where a heated debate has been going for years, on-and-off. In essence, the dispute arises from contradicting sources. If anyone would be so kind as to come over and help me out, particularly through mediating and arbitrating the feud, I would be tremendously appreciative. Experienced dispute resolution mediators are ideal, but any help is great. Also, any volunteers will receive my custom-made No Gun Ri barnstar for their heroic efforts. If you simply wish to watch the argument unfold, that's also fine.
If you want to read up a bit on the event itself, here are a smattering of sources that might help out:
Best,
GeneralizationsAreBad (talk) 17:52, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Could someone who can read the Korean-language sources please give attention to Chunseong, with a view to bringing it to an acceptable standard. Most of the present text is impenetrable. Thanks: Noyster (talk), 13:09, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Why should we bring this article to any standard (apart from standard deletion) ? Pldx1 (talk) 10:11, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
I'll try cleaning it up. Jangdan (talk) 02:24, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
there is currently an RfC at Talk:Joseon#RfC: Joseon Kingdom or Joseon Dynasty?. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 09:27, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#heraldcorp.com. Thank you, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 16:54, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Just a heads up that I updated the Ko-hhrm template to include an optional parameter (links=no) that disables the wikilinks in the template. The lang‑ko template already uses this parameter. It can be useful for articles that use the template multiple times to comply with WP:OLINK. Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 10:13, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
[[McCune–Reischauer|MR]]: {{Hangugeo|||Chosŏn}}
, which displays: MR: {{Hangugeo}} Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 19:59, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
As you probably know, the South Korean government has issued a new romanization system that is, in my opinion, more superior to the old McCune–Reischauer system. McCune–Reischauer is hard to read and write. Extra marks on top of vowels, and apostrophes after strong sounds (like Ch'ungch'ŏngdo (충청도)) distracts fluent reading. RR doesn't have any marks on top of vowels (whatever they're called) and it can be read much more closely to the native Korean pronounciation. Widely used Korean words such as Paektu and Chaebol aren't romanized to the current system. Of course, living in Korea, I see a transition phase, I see these two systems both being used widely, with the state defined Revised Romanization gaining more traction. The English Wikipedia should too, start converting old romanizaitons to newer verisions.
Some points that must be thought through a little more though:
Your thoughts?????
Jangdan (talk) 02:22, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on at Template talk:Hangugeo about whether this template is useful. Any input from Wikiproject Korea members would be appreciated. Thanks! Ry's the Guy (talk|contribs) 10:20, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Hey, the article Hello Ghost is currently up for AfD. I'm finding coverage to show that it looks to be quite notable, but I have a huge language barrier since I don't speak/read Korean and I'm relying on Google Translate. Can anyone help? Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 03:36, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
File:Korean diaspora.png has been nominated for deletion -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 05:50, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Some Wikipedians from abroad are attending it, as are WMF representatives. I'll be there. If anyone else is going, or would just like to catch up for a lunch/dinner, it may be a good idea to chat here. More info: [7]. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:26, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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I recently rescued this article from an inactive user's sandbox. It seems to be an incomplete translation of his Japanese article. It seems he has no bio on Korean Wikipedia (and is likely a controversial figure in Korea?). If anyone provide some useful Korean external links/refs, it would be appreciated. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:25, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
I can't decide: Yong-hun Lee. Feel free to move. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:21, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
See ko:위키백과:오프라인 모임/위키컨퍼런스 서울 2015 for details (in Korean), I am afraid. I will be presenting (in English) about teaching with Wikipedia. Is there any other non-Korean speakers who'll be attending? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:37, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
I investigated the tea (Camellia sinensis i.e. Black teaorGreen tea) production and consumption in South Korea. Some advocate green tea is an inherent culture of Korea. However according to FAOSTAT and other sources, tea production in South Korea began in 1960s and is 20% of Taiwan and 3.5% of Japan. Furthermore, tea consumption per capita in South Korea is one tenth of other East Asian countries. I would like to confirm this analysis is in line with the actual situation in South Korea.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:36, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
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Just an FYI, I just noticed this: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Asian Month -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 07:37, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
I change the Hanja spelling Hanyang University at Ansan Station hanja.
I wrote that Hanja spelling for in website but station have different spelling.
I think website spelling is new spelling so change new spelling is right.
But is make something confuse because spelling is different to station so some people think which spelling is right.
How about thinking this situation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myn727 (talk • contribs) 05:57, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
There is a number of images at commons:Category:Hangang Bridge showing both bridges, but none say which is which (first or second). This makes illustrating the articles a bit problematic; can someone clarify that? Ideally we should have a commons:Category:Hangang Railway Bridge too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
I have concerns about the notability of the subject of this article. While his accomplishments are certainly impressive, that alone is not enough to automatically meet WP:NorWP:ACADEMIC. From my quick searching, the English-language coverage amounts pretty much just to an article when he entered university [8], several blog posts this week about his paper being retracted [9], and a bunch of links to a Korean-language interview [10]. Together these probably do not amount to substantial enough coverage to pass WP:N, and I was considering nominating the article for deletion through WP:AFD.
However, the Korean version of the article (ko:송유근) has a lot more references, so that might be enough to indicate notability. As I don't speak Korean, I can't really evaluate this. Is there someone here who speaks Korean and is familiar enough with AFD to be able to gauge notability here, and advise on whether it would be better to AFD this article or just tag it? Thanks, rʨanaɢ (talk) 10:32, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
{{notability}}
tag. If the topic is not notable, then the article should be tagged for deletion. But leaving a sub-par article un-improved and un-tagged is not a good resolution. rʨanaɢ (talk) 16:56, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi. Someone added succession boxes to all korean monarchs articles. I find very odd the use of the ,,King/Queen of Korea" title and the use of the syntagm ,,Titles in pretence" for kings of pre-Goryeo periods. Does this monarchs realy used and pretended the title King/Queen of Korea, and to pretended rule all the koreans/Korean Peninsula ?! From what I read, I doubt. Shouldn't this be modified? Here are some examples: 1; 2; 3; 4; 5. Or at the Balhae monarchs, do we know for sure that they were Goguryeo claimants and pretended the same King of Korea title? Ex: 1; 2. Could a connoisseur of history check this? --Daduxing (talk) 17:40, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
Busker Busker's Cherry Blossom Ending reached #1 on the K-POP chart (see http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/k-town/1555270/busker-busker-top-k-pop-chart-with-year-old-single ).
Google was a "wall" of mostly-promotional- and fan-pages so I passed on trying to create the article, but I figured someone at either WT:WikiProject KoreaorWT:WikiProject Pop music would like to take a crack at it. I think the topic would make a good Did you know? entry for Wikipedia's Main page. Recommended hook: "Did you know ... that Busker Busker's 2012 song "Cherry Blossom Ending" was #1 on the Korea K-Pop Hot 100 chart a year after its release?" davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:44, 28 November 2015 (UTC)