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Russia has problems with doping so several of the medaills will be stripped . A warning is needed close to the table, not in the last section.Xx236 (talk) 06:17, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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If you want to provide facts not opinions, than why this edit returns to the lead mere Zhurova opinion? I also agree with you, that if we want a neutral lead, IOC's assessment of the doping programme should be moved. However, I disagree with you that the evaluation can not be included, it is there to balance all those concerns, which in the lead are included. These are evaluation of journalists, which are very related to the article and to this whole paragraph. Also, if we are going to include independent McLaren Report commissioned by the WADA, we should also mention conclusion of the whole accusation (13 Olympic medals stripped).Jirka.h23 (talk) 10:17, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Why should info on stripped medals not be in the lead? It is a major impact of these issues; they don't just remove medals because they can. There's a reason, it's punishment. ViperSnake151  Talk  23:22, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think that all these doping cases is a complete mess now. IOC intends to appeal the CAS decision, and it's just not clear what's going to happen. We shall wait until they finally decide who won these medals. Speaking of the pre-games concerns and controversies, I think they're not a major part of the games. We can keep them but I really don't think that we need to draw a conclusion in the end based on what Thomas Bach (IOC President) and the CSM had said right after the games. Or we need to specify that the games were seen successful from an organizational standpoint only. But again, better not to mention these controversies and not to draw a conclusion. We unanimously decided to remove the IOC's evaluation of the doping program (worst attack on an integrity of the Olympics in history), then why Thomas Bach's comments dating back to 2014 should be in the lead? As the previous user said, he needed balance to these concerns. I don't think we need a balance. We just shouldn't mention them at all.