Each dot represents a Category 5 hurricane where it reached Category 5 status. Hurricane Lorenzo (in blue) holds the record for the easternmost Category 5 hurricane since records began.
I made a map of where other hurricanes became category 5
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hurricanes3.png
Link to the data and the code in that submission. Can I add that image to this entry? David Curran —Preceding undated comment added 19:43, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
The map was removed『13:09, 1 October 2019 Jasper Deng talk contribs 14,236 bytes -150 this is an uninformative map, with no lat/lon labels, and is misleading as many Category 5 hurricanes maintained peak intensity in far more than one BT point』The other map on this page also has no Lat/Long labels https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lorenzo_2019_track.png. And this section deals with 'Lorenzo became the easternmost Category 5' not how long the peak intensity was maintained for. Iamreddave (talk) 15:47, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Iamreddave and Jasper Deng: How about using this photo (right)? It doesn't use lat/lon, but it's pretty clear either way without the lines (might I point out that the hurricane track maps also don't have lat/lon). This map doesn't show peak intensity, it shows where each hurricane initially became a Category 5.
Also adding if the peak is downgraded in TCR does that remove the essence of having this page? Or is the ship accident and impacts in Azores still sufficient enough to keep it? --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 16:25, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Most likely, NHC will place the peak intensity at 3z, a nonsynoptic point in between, as it peaked at neither 0z nor 6z. The impacts will likely merit keeping the article and even 135 knots still holds the intensity record at 45 W.—Jasper Deng(talk)19:04, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Buttons0603 and Vladwin: I would really like to know what source is being used to justify the claim that Lorenzo set a size record, and what metric of size you are using, because a bold claim like this can't stand without a source (and unlike many other records, cannot be easily verified with other articles like List of Category 5 Atlantic hurricanes). Absent such sourcing, that claim cannot stay in the article.--Jasper Deng(talk)11:56, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Met Office have referred to it as the biggest ever. (1) This source also refers to it as one of the largest and this was far from its peak size (2) so we may just have to wait for better sources to become available maybe with post-season analysis. There is also this article (3) saying it is one of the largest in the headline, but I can't actually read it cos I'm in Europe Buttons0603 (talk) 12:40, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) "biggest-ever" – sorry, this vague claim is not close to what is being claimed by the text I removed, and Mirror is not known to be a very reliable source. I got access to the Orlando Sentinel article but it too does not support any such claim. What we can say is that Lorenzo was unusually large on account of its gale-force wind radii, which NHC repeatedly emphasized. But there is no record being set here short of a reliable source making that exact claim.--Jasper Deng(talk)12:46, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If we're going by gale diameter, Lorenzo doesn't even make it into the top five since its maximum gale diameter was 610 nautical miles (see forecast advisories 38, 39, 40) which converts to 700 miles (1130 km). ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 12:44, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed with the consensus to mention its size, since it was definitely extraordinary, but to hold out on any record until the TCR comes out. Auree★★18:52, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
