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Pilot error
Martinevans123 has removed "pilot error" from the infobox, suggesting it's a "joke". Pilot error is part of the official version of the incident, though it has been disputed by the Soviet government and others. It has been part of the infobox for about a year (and possibly before that). I'm not sure if it should remain there, but we should have a clearer discussion of the pros and cons.--Jack Upland (talk) 22:02, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Creeperbrine360 had added it here as "Pilot Error due to Navigation", but without any edit summary. The relevant material in the article is at "Initial ICAO investigation (1983)" as follows: "This was later deemed to be caused by a "lack of situational awareness and flight deck coordination". But I don't see pilot error anywhere in the article at present. Happy to have that discussion. Sorry if I was misled, by the pattern of this editor's edits, to think it was "a joke". Martinevans123 (talk) 22:08, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Soviet denial?
The lead says: "The Soviet Union initially denied knowledge of the incident". This isn't true: according to the section "Initial Soviet denial", 12 hours afterwards, TASS reported an incident, but didn't say the aircraft was shot down. In addition, putting this in the lead seems to be undue weight, as does the section "Initial Soviet denial". The effect is that the article makes a big deal about the few days that the Soviet government took to come out with a full account of the incident and acknowledge the shoot down. There is no section devoted to the full Soviet version, rather it is scattered in different places over the article. The overall effect is very misleading.--Jack Upland (talk) 22:25, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The "Search for KAL 007 in international waters" section has this sentence:
On the same day as the shootdown, Rear Admiral William A. Cockell, Commander, Task Force 71, and a skeleton staff, taken by helicopter from Japan, embarked in USS Badger (stationed off Vladivostok at time of the flight)[64] on September 9 for further transfer to the destroyer USS Elliot to assume duties as Officer in Tactical Command (OTC) of the Search and Rescue (SAR) effort. [emphasis mine]
It's unclear which of the events described in this sentence took place on September 1 and which on September 9. The citation is to a book which does not appear to be online. Anyone have easy access to it, or other sources, which would clear that up? Chuck (talk) 21:54, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
