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1 Night of Qadr and Shab-e-Br'aat  





2 help  
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3 narration  
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4 Edit as of 21st May 2006  
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5 Shab-e-Br'aat or Shab-e-Barat  





6 SAWS  
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7 Attack on Shia interpretation  
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8 Changes  
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  • Night of Qadr and Shab-e-Br'aat

    One of the revisions made to this page is that someone has stated that Muslims scholars interpret the night in which God reveals what will happen in the coming year to some of His Angels as the night of Qadr. But this article at a reliable website: http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=IC0409-2468 Quotes a few Hadith in which the Prophet Muhammad stated that this actually occurs within the month of Shabaan. I'm going to go ahead and change it to 'Some Muslim scholars however believe this occurs on the Night of Qadr.' -- M2k41 (talk · contribs)


    help

    Thats all I know about the night.. More help is needed! --Irishpunktom\talk 11:21, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

    narration

    The narration that Irishpunktom pasted is not authentic. And the translation of Laylatul Qadr to "the night of power" is not correct.

    i wonder why somebody insists on calling it Night of Power. The word " Qadr" has nothing to do with "power". It is very wrong. Qadr might be trasnlated to "destiny" or "Status" 'or "size" depending on where the diacrtic is on each letter in the word. Power is "qudra" or related to "qadara" or "iqtadara" or "aqdara".Shafi3i 22:18, 20 September 2005 (UTC).[reply]

    As I've stated elsewhere, a significant amount of people refer to it as such, and that is reason enough for it's inclusion. --Irishpunktom\talk 11:52, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]


    Edit as of 21st May 2006

    I have made a few changes to this page. First of all 15th Shabaan is not interpreted as the Night of Power, the Night of Power is universally accepted as the day the Qur'an was first revealed, and this occured in the last ten days of Ramadan, hence the importance of that month. Second the traditional celebration of Shab-e-Br'aat is mainly observed in the Indian subcontinent, it is very rarely celebrated in traditional Arabic countries, so I have changed the line 'All Muslims...' to 'Some Muslims...' M2k41 20:54, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


    Shab-e-Br'aat or Shab-e-Barat

    In the Islamic Events part of the Sha'aban page, it uses the other transliteration for this particular night. I've created the link for it, which redirects to the Mid-Sha'ban page, but I wish it were redirected to a more specific section within the page, something like "Night before Mid-Sha'ban" or "Eve of Mid-Sha'ban". Right now, the most suitable place seems to be the "Traditional Observance" section, but doesn't that describe the day-time activities? This is just a thought, I leave it to you to perform any changes.

    SAWS

    Putting SAWS, or "Allah bless him and give him peace", or some other form after the name of the Prophet is unnecessary innovation, is it not? --Bejnar 23:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I must agree. It violates the spirit of objectivity. This whole article seems to do so. The inclusion of an obvious attack on Shia interpretation at the beginning of the article is not helpful.

    Paul O —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.142.253.220 (talk) 15:42, August 29, 2007 (UTC)


    Attack on Shia interpretation

    Paul O. said "The inclusion of an obvious attack on Shia interpretation at the beginning of the article is not helpful." I missed it. Where is this attack? --Bejnar 18:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Changes

    I added changes using Dr. Jibaly's book. There is an authentic hadeeth talking about the virtues of 15th shab'baan. It has several chains and even if they are weak, the hadeeth would atleast be Hasan. However, the hadeeth only speaks about something that is common for every last third of the night. Perhaps people misundersood the hadeeth and perhaps missed the important part of it: "Allaah forgives all of His creation, except for a mushrik or a quarreler"

    Thus, the emphasis should not be on excessive worship or odd celebrations. But rather, we should focus on remove Shirk from our belief and try to make peace and unite with the rest of the Ummah

    and Allaah knows best —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.209.149 (talk) 14:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Come on folks. Let's be fair on this topic when we are editing it. Deleting everyone's links other than your own view is totally unacceptable. We know that this night is not a normal like all the other nights. But at the same time, we know that there is no authentic narration about fasting on the 15th of Shaban. We are allowed to increase our worship in this night because it's a special night in which Allah forgives people. The Prophet would spend almost all of nights in extra worship. So there's no harm in increasing our worship on this night because of it being special with the hope that we will be forgiven.

    But folks, please let us not be soo biased towards our view that we delete everything else which people have put up. Especially the person who took off all the links and put up only one link to a Brelwi site. That is totally wrong.


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