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Thats all I know about the night.. More help is needed! --Irishpunktom\talk 11:21, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The narration that Irishpunktom pasted is not authentic. And the translation of Laylatul Qadr to "the night of power" is not correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shafi3i (talk • contribs) 19:30, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
i wonder why somebody insists on calling it Night of Power. The word " Qadr" has nothing to do with "power". It is very wrong. Qadr might be trasnlated to "destiny" or "Status" 'or "size" depending on where the diacrtic is on each letter in the word. Power is "qudra" or related to "qadara" or "iqtadara" or "aqdara".Shafi3i 22:18, 20 September 2005 (UTC).[reply]
One of the revisions made to this page is that someone has stated that Muslims scholars interpret the night in which God reveals what will happen in the coming year to some of His Angels as the night of Qadr. But this article at a reliable website: http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=IC0409-2468 Quotes a few Hadith in which the Prophet Muhammad stated that this actually occurs within the month of Shabaan. I'm going to go ahead and change it to 'Some Muslim scholars however believe this occurs on the Night of Qadr.' -- M2k41 (talk · contribs)
I have made a few changes to this page. First of all 15th Shabaan is not interpreted as the Night of Power, the Night of Power is universally accepted as the day the Qur'an was first revealed, and this occured in the last ten days of Ramadan, hence the importance of that month. Second the traditional celebration of Shab-e-Br'aat is mainly observed in the Indian subcontinent, it is very rarely celebrated in traditional Arabic countries, so I have changed the line 'All Muslims...' to 'Some Muslims...' M2k41 20:54, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In the Islamic Events part of the Sha'aban page, it uses the other transliteration for this particular night. I've created the link for it, which redirects to the Mid-Sha'ban page, but I wish it were redirected to a more specific section within the page, something like "Night before Mid-Sha'ban" or "Eve of Mid-Sha'ban". Right now, the most suitable place seems to be the "Traditional Observance" section, but doesn't that describe the day-time activities? This is just a thought, I leave it to you to perform any changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fshafique (talk • contribs) 09:34, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Putting SAWS, or "Allah bless him and give him peace", or some other form after the name of the Prophet is unnecessary innovation, is it not? --Bejnar 23:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I must agree. It violates the spirit of objectivity. This whole article seems to do so. The inclusion of an obvious attack on Shia interpretation at the beginning of the article is not helpful.
Paul O —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.142.253.220 (talk) 15:42, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
Paul O. said "The inclusion of an obvious attack on Shia interpretation at the beginning of the article is not helpful." I missed it. Where is this attack? --Bejnar 18:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I added changes using Dr. Jibaly's book. There is an authentic hadeeth talking about the virtues of 15th shab'baan. It has several chains and even if they are weak, the hadeeth would atleast be Hasan. However, the hadeeth only speaks about something that is common for every last third of the night. Perhaps people misundersood the hadeeth and perhaps missed the important part of it: "Allaah forgives all of His creation, except for a mushrik or a quarreler"
Thus, the emphasis should not be on excessive worship or odd celebrations. But rather, we should focus on remove Shirk from our belief and try to make peace and unite with the rest of the Ummah
and Allaah knows best —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.209.149 (talk) 14:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Come on folks. Let's be fair on this topic when we are editing it. Deleting everyone's links other than your own view is totally unacceptable. We know that this night is not a normal like all the other nights. But at the same time, we know that there is no authentic narration about fasting on the 15th of Shaban. We are allowed to increase our worship in this night because it's a special night in which Allah forgives people. The Prophet would spend almost all of nights in extra worship. So there's no harm in increasing our worship on this night because of it being special with the hope that we will be forgiven.
But folks, please let us not be soo biased towards our view that we delete everything else which people have put up. Especially the person who took off all the links and put up only one link to a Brelwi site. That is totally wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacetoall (talk • contribs) 20:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have edited the claims that only the Wahhabi/Salafis deem Shabe Baraah as bid'ah. It is also seen as an innovation according to many subcontinental Hanafi scholars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.178.26 (talk) 22:25, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Muslims in some Islamic countries(Pakistan, India, etc) have been misguided by scholars into believing that night of 15th Shaban is very sacred, and should be given great reverence. They go so far that such false information / claims as below, are openly published by daily newspapers on this day:
1. Allah (s.w.t) descends to a lower heaven, and/or earth. 2. It is the night of forgiveness. 3. Important decisions are made on this night. 4. etc, etc...
The trend, it seems, is to create a competition between the Laila tul Qadr (a night of Ramadan, see ending) and this night of 15th Shaban. Various Sayings of Syedna Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) are cited for their case by some unwise scholars in support of this night.
These misleading arguments in favour of 15th Shaban (which are completely against the essence of Islam and therefore sinful) can be disproved easily as under:
First of all, all qualities attributed to 15th Shaban are those which the Holy Quran strictly says belong to the Laila tul Qadr. There is no room for any doubt, since there is a distinct Chapter (Surah Al Qadr, No.98) specifically revealed to magnify the importance of Laila tul Qadr. It clearly mentions that angels and Gabriel descend with instructions and decisions on "all matters" on this night of Laila tul Qadr.
Secondly, If everything is done on 15th Shaban, then what is the purpose of Laila tul Qadr ?...one may ask.
Thirdly, as Syedna Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) was the most obedient servant of Allah (s.w.t) and also the ultimate teacher of the Holy Quran to mankind and Ummah, how could he create a controversy by declaring the 15th of Shaban equal to Laila tul Qadr ? He could never have ordered equal importance to be given to these two nights, in contrast to his own duties and stature.
PLEADING TO ALL MUSLIMS:
There is no restriction on praying on 15th Shaban, and Muslims are free to do so on this night or any other night, but its totally against the teaching of the Holy Quran and Syedna Prophet Mohammad (pbuh)to assign the qualities and reverence of Laila tul Qadr to any other date. Praying on just one Laila tul Qadr is better then praying for 1000 months (or 83.3 years) !
Laila tul Qadr is a gift from Allah (s.w.t) to mankind. By revealing to us the existence of such a tremendous night, Allah (s.w.t) has bestowed a great great mercy on us all. Please do not waste it or try to diminish it in any way whatsoever.
Laila tul Qadr is the real night of importance in Islam, on which Holy Quran descended, and during which all Muslims must pray and give it its due importance, and not 15th Shaban.
One may pray on 15the Shaban too, but not thinking it is in any way equal to Laila tul Qadr (naoozobillah!). If one wants to celebrate, do so on Laila tul Qadr.
To confirm above please kindly refer to the following sections in the Holy Quran:
a) Surah-98 Al Qadr, b) Surah-2 Al Baqrah (verse 2-185) c) Surah-44 (opening verses).
Wikiuser20000 (talk) 13:59, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I propose to merge Barat Night with this article (Mid-Sha'ban). They are both about 15 Sha'ban, and while I can imagine that one is about the night and the other about the day of 15 Sha'ban, the article texts did not seem to make a clear distinction. Merging will however involve quite alot of work, since both articles include a considerable amount of (non-wikistandard) information.HyperGaruda (talk) 10:31, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree because nobody would search with the term mid-sha'ban however it is being widely searched as Barat Night. In addition it has enough resources and meaning to have separate page. BurstPower (talk) 01:11, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
How many fasting should we keep fasting in the Baraat ?
Nashrin Naseem (talk) 06:34, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Dear User:HyperGaruda & Dear User:BurstPower,
This merge was wrong, because these two were different; Barat Night is celebrated both by Shia and Sunni but Blessed Lailatul Barat it’s mainly celebrated by Sunni Islam, but nime Shaban is mostly celebrated by Shia Islam as birth of their Imam.
Maybe some Shia Muslims and some Sunnis support merge but that’s not in favor of the real information, probably these guys want to hidden the other part,
For example Persians mostly celebrate Nime Shaban (and that’s because of the birth of Mahdi their Imam). But this is not the reason for celebrating of Barat Night, so they are both completely different issues.
It is not like Day of Ashura at all,
Because Day of Ashura subject is the same, it’s about similar story, but Barat Night and Mid-Sha'ban both have different roots.
Sunnis observe Barat Night as a night of worship and salvation. Shia observes mid-Sha'ban as the birthday of their last Imam, Imam Mahdi. KhabarNegar Talk 09:54, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Moved from Mid-Sha'ban
the 2 festival are very different .it is not possible to merge it. the roots are different . the traditions are different. and .... I will explain more ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homaaaa (talk • contribs) 01:16, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
So contrary to what the editors above are saying, these are the exact same thing. Shab-e-Bara(t)/Mid-Sha'ban/Nisfu Sha'ban/Laylatul Bara(t) etc. are all just various names for the same festival. At the moment then, Wikipedia confusingly has two articles for the same thing. The content of the two articles is also strikingly similar.
The reason however why some editors objected to the mergers is that they are confusing the difference in celebration between Sunnis and Shi'ites - Sunni celebrate 15th Sha'ban due to certain traditions in their collections and statements from their jurists emphasising the night, the closeness to God in the night etc. Muslims are spread out throughout the world, hence the difference in customs in celebrating the night (regional variations of the same festival do NOT merit a seperate article contrary to what the editors above opine - they can easily be included in seperate sections and sub-sections of one article).
Shi'a Muslims however have an additional reason to celebrate it - that is that the 12th Imam, Imam Mahdi was born on this night. For Shi'ites then, the night has significance as it relates to their central beliefs in Imamah and Ghaybah that differentiates them from the Sunnis.
This is simply a denominational variation on the reason for the celebration, not unlike the celebration of Ashura which similarly has differing traditions between Sunni and Shi'a. However, again denominational differences do not warrant a seperate article, and making seperate articles simply makes things confusing.
It would be like having multiple articles for Christmas - something we do not do for obvious reasons!
I propose one article, with adequate explanation of the denominational nuances in celebration, as well as room for any regional customs. ParthikS8 (talk) 23:04, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]