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Social justice warrior is currently a Culture, sociology and psychology good article nominee. Nominated by — Cirt (talk) at 13:17, 7 April 2016 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria. Further reviews are welcome from any editor who has not contributed significantly to this article (or nominated it), and can be added to the review page, but the decision whether or not to list the article as a good article should be left to the first reviewer.

Article milestones Date Process Result October 4, 2014 Proposed deletion Kept October 5, 2014 Proposed deletion Deleted November 28, 2014 Articles for deletion Merged January 28, 2016 Articles for deletion Kept April 7, 2016 WikiProject approved revision Diff to current version Afact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 7, 2016. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that in August 2015, the term "social justice warrior" was one of several new words and phrases added to Oxford Dictionaries?

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This article was nominated for deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination: Keep, 20 January 2016, see discussion. Merge to Social justice, 18 November 2014, see discussion.

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This article makes it seem that all social justice warriors are saints persecuted by heathen misogynist trolls. This article should provide a balanced view of the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagicatthemovieS (talk • contribs)

It appears above claims by this user are not backed up by sources. — Cirt (talk) 19:52, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Further, the language chosen by the above complainant in order to complain quote; "This article makes it seem that all social justice warriors are saints persecuted by heathen misogynist trolls." -- appears to betray that particular user's POV about the subject matter. My belief is this article should reflect reliable secondary sources on the topic. — Cirt (talk) 20:43, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. WP:WEIGHT. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 22:37, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with EvergreenFir, thank you. The complainant user has again refused to engage in talk page discussion. I note I've attributed the source directly to the person who said it themselves. — Cirt (talk) 22:44, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As someone who is socially progressive myself and has no time for sexism, racism or any similar prejudices, nevertheless I agree with the first person - this article is strongly biased. The narrative of this article is more or less what the first complainant stated. In actual fact, while it's true that SJW is sometimes used to slur anyone advocating progressive views, it's not the only use. The term covers a spectrum, with some people reserving its usage for those who advocate extreme positions, e.g. the idea that a white guy dressing up in a Mariachi costume on Halloween is 'cultural appropriation that mocks a marginalized, oppressed ethnic group purely for the amusement of priviledged white people'. We've all seen this kind of mindset expressing itself around the net, so don't pretend it doesn't exist. 95.149.93.114 (talk) 01:38, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

IP above makes good points. I also noticed a disturbing slant in the way the article is focused on and written from one particular point of view.  InsertCleverPhraseHere  10:39, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Having read the article it seems to include a lot of definitions of the term, which are in agreement with what the IP is saying. So I'm not seeing the issue at all. Brustopher (talk) 11:44, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with EvergreenFir and Brustopher. Above complainants have failed to present reliable secondary sources to back up their spurious arguments. — Cirt (talk) 23:41, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks to Brustopher (talk · contribs) for splitting off material into new subsection.

I tweaked the sub sect title to "Reappropriation" as that's the main topic for the corresponding Wikipedia article on the concept.

Great idea for new sub section by Brustopher (talk · contribs) !

Thank you,

— Cirt (talk) 23:41, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Aw thanks m8! Brustopher (talk) 23:51, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You're most welcome, — Cirt (talk) 23:56, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've archived some resolved threads to focus on further quality improvement efforts.

These include for example move discussion since closed, discussions resolved with amicable resolutions to all parties involved, compromises with zero further complaints raised, etc.

Archived discussions to date may be seen at:

1. Talk:Social justice warrior/Archive 1
2. Talk:Social justice warrior/Archive 2

Thank you,

— Cirt (talk) 00:04, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

FAQ page might be needed soon for this talk page.

More info at Template:FAQ page.

Basically the purpose of this is to avoid tired and circular arguments previously historically raised in the past in talk page discussion -- or complaints that have zero basis in Wikipedia site policy.

Will examine this a bit further first.

Thank you,

— Cirt (talk) 00:06, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]