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| ⚫ | == Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 March 2024 == |
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== can someone add missouri to the support list == |
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https://krcgtv.com/news/local/parson-missouri-will-send-national-guard-troops-to-texas-southern-border [[Special:Contributions/2601:87:8300:27F0:BDCC:48F4:F138:15A2|2601:87:8300:27F0:BDCC:48F4:F138:15A2]] ([[User talk:2601:87:8300:27F0:BDCC:48F4:F138:15A2|talk]]) 03:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Add the following, "A base, entitled 'Forward Operating Eagle', has begun being constructed at Eagle Pass, and can house up to 2,300 soldiers." |
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This has been covered in the news, and has warranted a Forbes article. See: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesfarrell/2024/02/16/texas-building-military-base-camp-at-eagle-pass-amid-showdown-with-border-patrol/?sh=59e15dab1a71 [[User:Kingofmapps|Kingofmapps]] ([[User talk:Kingofmapps|talk]]) 18:22, 14 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:There is a article stating that there is more than 25 states on texas side [[Special:Contributions/172.56.51.188|172.56.51.188]] ([[User talk:172.56.51.188|talk]]) 03:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC) |
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::Yes, that information should be added to the page. I just can't understand why nobody here will do so. This is an historical event, and it should be documented accurately. [[Special:Contributions/98.20.148.59|98.20.148.59]] ([[User talk:98.20.148.59|talk]]) 12:13, 21 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:'''Done''', with your wording and I made the link a source. |
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== This needs a separate page about the ongoing internal conflict between the US and Texas == |
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:IMO this article no longer merits EC protection, as the physical standoff is over and mainly involves ongoing litigation. [[User:JohnAdams1800|JohnAdams1800]] ([[User talk:JohnAdams1800|talk]]) 15:15, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Pictogram voting wait.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Already done'''<!-- Template:EEp --> [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 13:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== End date? == |
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[[User:GreatLeader1945|GreatLeader1945]] ([[User talk:GreatLeader1945|talk]]) 14:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC) |
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It seems to me that the end date is a bit inaccurate. While I agree with some other comments of the talk page about it having "fizzled out", it was still ongoing well into January and is atleast technically still ongoing. |
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:that is a fact [[Special:Contributions/172.56.51.188|172.56.51.188]] ([[User talk:172.56.51.188|talk]]) 03:15, 19 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:I agree. I suggested that on January 31st, but my proposal was rejected. |
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:[[Special:PermanentLink/1201477912#Requested move 31 January 2024]] [[Special:Contributions/98.20.148.59|98.20.148.59]] ([[User talk:98.20.148.59|talk]]) 12:12, 21 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Here are some reports from Febuary and one from March: |
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== Someone needs to a seperate page about Senate Bill 1403's Interstate Border Compact == |
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https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/video/eye-on-politics-bipartisan-border-bill-fails-as-standoff-in-eagle-pass-continues/ |
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https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/standoff-eagle-pass |
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https://www.newsweek.com/texas-military-razor-wire-migrant-crisis-greg-abbott-1878647 |
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I would show the date as either 11th of Jan-present for now and then, until it either ends or a proper date for it having "fizzled out" is chosen, switching it for said date. The current set date of the 29th is not really accurate as far as I understand. [[User:Iska-Germany|Iska-Germany]] ([[User talk:Iska-Germany|talk]]) 22:40, 16 March 2024 (UTC) |
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https://www.keranews.org/texas-news/2023-08-31/billions-more-for-border-security-highlight-texas-focus-on-drug-interdiction-immigration |
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:Sounds good, I'll make a change regarding this. [[User:Wikiexplorationandhelping|Wikiexplorationandhelping]] ([[User talk:Wikiexplorationandhelping|talk]]) 15:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC) |
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https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/88R/billtext/html/SB01403F.htm |
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== The extended confirmation protection has been lowered to semi-protection. == |
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[https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-signs-sweeping-package-of-border-security-legislation#:~:text=The%20compact%20will%20allow%20participating,of%20existing%20federal%20border%20policy. https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-signs-sweeping-package-of-border-security-legislation#:~:text=The%20compact%20will%20allow%20participating,of%20existing%20federal%20border%20policy.] |
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I convinced the administrator to lower the protection, as this page has become much less controversial and heavily edited. [[User:JohnAdams1800|JohnAdams1800]] ([[User talk:JohnAdams1800|talk]]) 02:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Merge proposal == |
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== Missouri should be added to the list of states that support Texas == |
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I'd propose that we merge this article with [[Operation Lone Star]], as [[WP:RAPID|now that the news has died down]] the long-term significance of this 'standoff' has turned out to be questionable. See also [[WP:PERSISTENCE]]. [[User:The ed17|Ed]] <sup>[[User talk:The ed17|[talk]]] [[WP:OMT|[OMT]]]</sup> 01:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Yesterday, Missouri governor Mike Parson announced that he is sending National Guardsmen to the southern border.[https://news.yahoo.com/parson-sending-more-missouri-national-033751402.html] This information should be added to the page. [[Special:Contributions/98.20.148.59|98.20.148.59]] ([[User talk:98.20.148.59|talk]]) 12:10, 21 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{u|The ed17}} I agree. This incident was fleeting. I might go further to suggest the article was created on spec that it would become a big shootout with the feds. [[User:Soibangla|soibangla]] ([[User talk:Soibangla|talk]]) 07:24, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Article needs to be updated for February == |
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This article contains no updates for February 2024--I added the banner at the top. Also I support keeping Extended Confirmation Protection for now, but if there continues to be no change in the legal or physical situation, I would support reducing protection to semi-protected because the event will be in retrospect. [[User:JohnAdams1800|JohnAdams1800]] ([[User talk:JohnAdams1800|talk]]) 16:03, 23 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Declare the standoff over (Maybe) == |
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What really has happened since the deadline ran out? I think Biden sanctioned Texas...and then what? Nothing, the Texas border guard has just been doing what it's doing since Abbot gave them the order. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not think this article has been updated (except the Date updates) at all during February. Unless Biden does do something else, I think it should be thought of as over, barring future developments that may occur, in that case, don't consider it such. [[User:BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne|BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne]] ([[User talk:BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne|talk]]) 03:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:And if there have been developments in February, that should be represented in the article. [[User:BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne|BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne]] ([[User talk:BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne|talk]]) 03:10, 25 February 2024 (UTC) |
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::Texas is appealing, but a district court just granted an injunction against the law (SB4) Texas is using to try to take over immigration jurisdiction. https://x.com/chrisgeidner/status/1763283008713625920?s=20 [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:3811:C5C0:FC69:54C6:ED47:ED9E|2600:1700:3811:C5C0:FC69:54C6:ED47:ED9E]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:3811:C5C0:FC69:54C6:ED47:ED9E|talk]]) 23:01, 29 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:This seems to have fizzled out—I'd propose merging it into [[Operation Lone Star]]. [[User:The ed17|Ed]] <sup>[[User talk:The ed17|[talk]]] [[WP:OMT|[OMT]]]</sup> 04:08, 1 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::Yes, I agree, it should be labeled as over, and also, the end date for it should be pushed back to an earlier one. [[User:BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne|BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne]] ([[User talk:BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne|talk]]) 18:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:In my opinion the standoff is over, but litigation over the US-Texas-Mexico border is ongoing, and this article is part of [[Operation Lone Star]]. I support keeping the article, but I agree the standoff is likely over. [[User:JohnAdams1800|JohnAdams1800]] ([[User talk:JohnAdams1800|talk]]) 15:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== add tennessee == |
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tennessee-national-guard-deploying-southern-border-biden-admin-fails-act-gop-gov-says [[Special:Contributions/2601:87:8300:27F0:D540:2413:9B17:13E|2601:87:8300:27F0:D540:2413:9B17:13E]] ([[User talk:2601:87:8300:27F0:D540:2413:9B17:13E|talk]]) 00:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== A federal court has just said the Texas immigration law can go into effect == |
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Add that to the infobox. And to the end of the article. [[User:Com Pinkerton Leter|Com Pinkerton Leter]] ([[User talk:Com Pinkerton Leter|talk]]) 18:14, 4 March 2024 (UTC) |
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I went to the Supreme Court's website, and Justice Alito granted his own administrative stay of the [[5th Circuit Court of Appeals]] administrative stay. I'll add one sentence, but I won't add any outcomes because this is a current event and can change rapidly. [[User:JohnAdams1800|JohnAdams1800]] ([[User talk:JohnAdams1800|talk]]) 03:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC) |
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the standoff is not over. i would also like to add the existing states who have signed bills and sent their national guards in support of Texas. [[User:Thomas2008tw|Thomas2008tw]] ([[User talk:Thomas2008tw|talk]]) 04:31, 12 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:EEp --> [[User:Jamedeus|Jamedeus]] ([[User talk:Jamedeus|talk]]) 18:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC) |
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Add the following, "A base, entitled 'Forward Operating Eagle', has begun being constructed at Eagle Pass, and can house up to 2,300 soldiers."
This has been covered in the news, and has warranted a Forbes article. See: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesfarrell/2024/02/16/texas-building-military-base-camp-at-eagle-pass-amid-showdown-with-border-patrol/?sh=59e15dab1a71 Kingofmapps (talk) 18:22, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Already done M.Bitton (talk) 13:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]It seems to me that the end date is a bit inaccurate. While I agree with some other comments of the talk page about it having "fizzled out", it was still ongoing well into January and is atleast technically still ongoing.
Here are some reports from Febuary and one from March: https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/video/eye-on-politics-bipartisan-border-bill-fails-as-standoff-in-eagle-pass-continues/ https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/standoff-eagle-pass https://www.newsweek.com/texas-military-razor-wire-migrant-crisis-greg-abbott-1878647
I would show the date as either 11th of Jan-present for now and then, until it either ends or a proper date for it having "fizzled out" is chosen, switching it for said date. The current set date of the 29th is not really accurate as far as I understand. Iska-Germany (talk) 22:40, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I convinced the administrator to lower the protection, as this page has become much less controversial and heavily edited. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 02:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd propose that we merge this article with Operation Lone Star, as now that the news has died down the long-term significance of this 'standoff' has turned out to be questionable. See also WP:PERSISTENCE. Ed [talk] [OMT] 01:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
