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It has been requested that I review the assessments of this article. First, I am going to maintain the article's existing high importance rating for WikiProject Schools, an argument could even be made for Top importance though I will leave that to a separate discussion. This article merits at least a C-class, so I will not demote it, however will compare it against the B-class criteria to see if it merits B-class:

• Criterion 1: Article has lots of references and uses inline citations, but there are noticeable gaps in the references. There appear to be a few gaps in the History section for example of historical claims that will need full sourcing, but currently appear to have no refs. There are big gaps in the Westminster Jargon and Houses section. Also, too many alumni claims have no refs to support them. Lack of use of citation templates while not needed for B-class/GA also bring down the quality of the article.
• Criterion 2: Enough for B-class, though one noticeable omission is the lack of info on academics and curriculum. See WP:WPSCH/AG for help.
• Criterion 3: The article is well structured, the lead section needs to be a lot bigger for an article of this size and should summarise the entire article, see WP:LEAD for help, but this is not a problem for B-class.
• Criterion 4: No serious issues with article flow, though for GA some WP:MOS issues will need to be corrected. Full stops should be before references, and images should be laid out per WP:MOSIMAGE e.g. not having text sandwiched between images. Also, bold should not be used to make article headings as done here to explain jargon.
• Criterion 5: Has enough pictures and a school logo.
• Criterion 6: Technical terms are explained.

So the article currently passes criteria 2,3,4,5 and 6, but fails criterion 1, and articles need to pass all these criteria to get B-class. So while nearly B-class, I am assessing the article as C-class for now.

Oh yes and an opinion was requested on the length of the article, the article is 58KB in total so it is not in danger zone yet and only readable prose counts at WP:SIZERULE and after a test I found the readable prose for this article is under 30KB. One easy way of reducing article size is to move all the alumni list into the former pupils sub-article and just have a brief prose summary in this article. Camaron · Christopher · talk 14:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be possible to indicate how long ago the relevant terms became obsolete? I'm reading John Rae's Westminster diary, The Old Boys' Network, and he uses "begging a play" as though it was current at the time. In the entry for 16 October 1973, Rae mentions that "I have asked Gerald Ellison ... to come to Latin prayers and beg a play" (lower-case p).

On a slightly different, but related, note, in the entry for 23 October 1975, Rae gives boys (plural) a digniora, and specifically refers to it as being Maundy money. When did that change? Loganberry (Talk) 18:55, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This sentence seems not to be suitable for an encyclopedia: "Prospective donors are particularly invited to note the School's gratitude to benefactors." I propose its deletion. Pemboid (talk) 12:55, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and I have deleted it. -- Alarics (talk) 14:14, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Changed caption of photo - which does not show the facade of the school. None of the range of buildings of The Sanctuary house the school, which doesn't really have a facade as such. The photo does, however, show the War Memorial to boys who died in the Crimean War. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.30.108.33 (talk) 14:10, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In view of close links between Westminster School and Oxford and Cambridge universities, the high number going to the latter two need not have any academic significance. Common staff are the norm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.153.96.198 (talk) 14:42, 10 August 2013 (UTC) See Greg Winter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.153.96.198 (talk) 14:45, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]