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The result of the move request was: '''moved''' per consensus. —<span style="font-size: 104%; letter-spacing:1.5pt;"><span class="monospaced" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran[[User talk:Usernamekiran|<span style="letter-spacing:1pt;">'''(talk)'''</span>]]</span></span> 13:06, 29 April 2018 (UTC) |
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[[:Pertussis]] → {{no redirect|Whooping cough}} – "Whooping cough" is the [[WP:COMMONNAME]], especially in English-speaking countries: [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Pertussis,Whooping%20cough]. Note that the [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/whooping-cough/symptoms-causes/syc-20378973 Mayo Clinic], [https://www.webmd.com/children/whooping-cough-symptoms-treatment#1 WebMD], and [https://medlineplus.gov/whoopingcough.html Medline Plus] also title their articles "Whooping cough" rather than "Pertussis". [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 03:31, 20 April 2018 (UTC) |
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*Google Books disagrees with Google Trends: [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=whooping+cough%2Cpertussis&case_insensitive=on&year_start=1900&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t4%3B%2Cwhooping%20cough%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bwhooping%20cough%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BWhooping%20cough%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BWhooping%20Cough%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BWHOOPING%20COUGH%3B%2Cc0%3B.t4%3B%2Cpertussis%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bpertussis%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BPertussis%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BPERTUSSIS%3B%2Cc0 ngram]. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]]<small>[[User talk:Dekimasu|よ!]]</small> 05:25, 20 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:*I will go ahead and '''oppose''' this change. Though "pertussis" may be a more technical term as argued below, it is also well-known, particularly because it is referred to as "pertussis" in the names of various vaccines ([[DPT vaccine|DPT and DTaP vaccines]], etc.). I'd also note that relevant related pages, such as [[Pertussis vaccine]] and [[Pertussis toxin]], are currently at consistent titles. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]]<small>[[User talk:Dekimasu|よ!]]</small> 23:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''oppose''' - Usage evidence based on [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Pertussis%2CWhooping+cough&case_insensitive=on&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t4%3B%2CPertussis%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bpertussis%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BPertussis%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BPERTUSSIS%3B%2Cc0%3B.t4%3B%2CWhooping%20cough%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bwhooping%20cough%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BWhooping%20cough%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BWhooping%20Cough%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BWHOOPING%20COUGH%3B%2Cc0 Google Ngrams] leads me to believe that the current title and primary redirect are the best way to handle this. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 05:36, 20 April 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''oppose''' per Netoholic rationale--[[User:Ozzie10aaaa|Ozzie10aaaa]] ([[User talk:Ozzie10aaaa|talk]]) 22:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' I think "whooping cough" is the common name. [[User:Rreagan007|Rreagan007]] ([[User talk:Rreagan007|talk]]) 19:38, 26 April 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' Sites for the general public generally use whooping cough.[https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/whooping-cough/symptoms-causes/syc-20378973] Pertussis is a more technical term. [[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 11:46, 27 April 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' You can add [https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/whooping-cough/ the NHS] to the list of organisations that use 'whooping cough' rather than 'pertussis'. It looks like whooping cough is used in general texts, perhaps what Google books is doing is showing what the academic literature tends to use. Since Wikipedia's audience is essentially the general public, I think it makes sense to use a common term they're more likely to have heard of. [[User:Richard Nevell|Richard Nevell]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell|talk]]) 14:08, 28 April 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Support'''. We are a general encyclopedia, and should use the common name known to the general readership. A classic case of statistics being a good guide but a very poor arbitrator. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 17:39, 28 April 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' as per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. Heck, the only reason I know what pertussis is is because I'm in medical school. [[User:Waddie96|Waddie96]] ([[User talk:Waddie96|talk]]) 11:24, 29 April 2018 (UTC) |
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I created Category:Pertussis. At the time, this article had the title "Pertussis", so i used said category title. However, now that the article title has been moved, i think the category should also be retitled "Whooping cough", for consistency.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 16:00, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Goals:
1. Addition of global statistics of pertussis outbreaks
2. Addition of the difference between clinical presentation of pertussis in "Signs and Symptoms" portion.
3. Find information regarding the use of counter medication such as cough suppressants/lozenges with whooping cough in "Treatment"
Respond to peer review prompts on the ARTICLE talk page, following the statement made the group about its planned edits.
1. All group members should respond to the following prompts, with specific examples:
· Do the group’s edits improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review “Guiding framework”?
-- Yes, Kim's addition of statistics about India and other countries helps to add validity and expands on the gravity and prevalence of whooping cough in the world despite the fact that there is an existing vaccine. --Dannymrowr (talk) 20:44, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
-- The group's edits improve the article by providing more recent and accurate information about the prevalence of whooping cough in several countries.--Mparagas18 (talk) 21:29, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
-- Improved article by adding in statistics for Germany, China, and India from a reliable secondary source. Language is neutral and edits are balanced with respect to the overall structure of the article. --Alexuang (talk) 16:52, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
· Has the group achieved its overall goals for improvement?
-- Yes, I believe group 3c's goal of adding statistics to the page was achieved --Dannymrowr (talk) 20:47, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
-- Yes, the group achieved their goal of adding accurate, relevant statistics about whooping cough prevalence.--Mparagas18 (talk) 21:29, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
-- Global statistics added in for three countries. U.S. statistics already present in the article. Treatment section only contains information on prescription medications. --Alexuang (talk) 16:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
2. Each group should divide up the prompts below so that a different person responds to each question. Please sign your comments with your name and account name so that you receive credit.
· Person A: Does the draft submission reflect a neutral point of view? If not, specify…
-- Yes it does, the statistics are cited and straightforward with no opinion attached. It is simply the statistic of the prevalence of whooping cough. --Dannymrowr (talk) 20:44, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
· Person B: Are the points included verifiable with cited secondary sources that are freely available? If not, specify…
--Overall yes. Fixed statistic for China (10340 -> 10390). Good review article. --Alexuang (talk) 21:44, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
· Person C. Are the edits formatted consistent with Wikipedia’s manual of style? If not, specify… -- Yes, the edits are formatted consistent with Wikipedia's manual of style.-- Brendado425 (talk) 21:09, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
· Person D. Is there any evidence of plagiarism or copyright violation? If yes, specify…
-- No, the statistics Kim added are appropriately cited and do not show any evidence of plagiarism or copyright.--Mparagas18 (talk) 21:03, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Per https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3501154/ may be airborne. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:15, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tetanus meanning transletion to khasi 2409:4066:113:DF2E:8518:718F:AEBB:D55B (talk) 13:58, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
