User talk:Rosguill: Difference between revisions

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== Happy Christmas ==

{{User:Joseywales1961/Holidays 2023}}

== Recent AFD Decline and Autopatrolled removal ==

Hi, you removed my autopatrolled and declined my AFD request in this edit. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=Special%3ADiff&diff=1194431866]

Please in good faith reconsider your position and see it from my POV.

I recalled a specific day that I wished to apply for NPP again because of my denial for not doing enough AFD's, so after doing some, I applied for it again without the intention to game the system whatsoever. I also continued to do AFD's after it as well.

What you said about casting multiple delete votes was because of my honest opinion on these votes, including to delete articles that failed common requirements such as [[WP:GNG]].

I believe the removal of such permissions (specifically autopatrolled), without a warning that something like this was not permissible to do per [[WP:GAME]] may have not been the correct decision, as it says to assume in good faith.

"A warning from an administrator is usually the best way to prevent gaming, because a clear warning should help correct both good-faith mistakes and bad-faith games. If an editor ignores a warning and repeats their behavior, or if they find new creative ways to achieve the same disruption, it is likely that editor is gaming the system in bad faith."

There also seems to be nothing regarding on "gaming the system" for AFD's, especially towards NPP, so I am asking you to reconsider your decision, thanks for reading. [[User:Noorullah21|Noorullah]] ([[User talk:Noorullah21|talk]]) 06:30, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Noorullah21}}, I understand your frustration, but ultimately I have to consider this from the perspective of protecting the broader Wikipedia project. When it comes to advanced permissions like autopatrol or new page reviewer, it is not enough for me to simply AGF and back off when there is a plausible cause for concern.

:Further, the intent in originally recommending that you participate more in AfD the first time around was that you build up a track record of participation that can be evaluated. Jumping into a half dozen discussions right before requesting the permission doesn't do that: as admins considering permissions applications, we wanted to see you participate over an extended period of time so that we could also see the discussions come to a conclusion, and to see your evaluations of sources in a variety of contexts including when editors make counter-arguments against them. Even setting aside the gameing concerns, quickly leaving several comments the same day that you apply for the permission doesn't do that, and essentially leaves the reviewing admin in the same position as the first time around, with insufficient data to assess your relevant skills.

:Now, again, I can see how this could have all been a good faith misunderstanding, and for that reason I ask that you don't take these decisions personally. With full AGF-goggles on, you simply mistook what we were looking for and thus unintentionally prepared your edits in the wrong way. But given that these are advanced permissions with high potential for abuse, there needs to be a high bar for receiving the permissions. To that end, if you spend the next three months engaging in the kind of thoughtful, slow participation in AfD that we're actually looking for, I think you will likely receive the permission then. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 14:08, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

::@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]] I see, I apologize for anything that might've caused confusion and definitely on my part for what happened.

::May I at the very least request my autopatrolled back given that the situation has been relatively cleared up? [[User:Noorullah21|Noorullah]] ([[User talk:Noorullah21|talk]]) 20:01, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

:::I believe I have proven myself non-abusive in those permissions, and quite contributing per the pages I've created such as [[Khalji Revolution]], [[Durrani Campaign to Khorasan (1754–55)]], etc. [[User:Noorullah21|Noorullah]] ([[User talk:Noorullah21|talk]]) 20:06, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

::::No, I stand by my decision, for the reasons already explained. It is unfortunately all too easy for someone to make good contributions only long enough to avoid scrutiny. Further, having the permission confers no special advantage to you (unless you're trying to skirt scrutiny), so there's really no reason to request it. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 21:07, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

:::::Its to cut down on backlog while creating articles. Am I never allowed to request for it again then on [[Wikipedia:Requests for permissions]]? [[User:Noorullah21|Noorullah]] ([[User talk:Noorullah21|talk]]) 22:04, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

::::::While there is no formal sanction against you seeking the reinstatement of permissions, I personally do not recommend seeking it, as that is going to look like [[WP:Hat collecting]]/gaming behavior in itself and it confers no actual benefit to you. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 22:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol|NPP]] Awards for 2023 ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray; width:100%;" | For all your hard work in 2023! Thank you! '''[[User:Dr_vulpes|<span style="background:#4B0082; color:white;">Dr vulpes</span>]]''' [[User talk:Dr_vulpes|(Talk)]] 03:06, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

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== Question2 ==

Hello @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]]! I'm not sure if you're the right person to ask but did I understand it correctly that under [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Creative Commons Attribution 4.0] I can upload non-free images as long as I attribute the author? Best regards, [[User:WikiEditor1234567123|<b style="font-style:italic;font-family:Georgia,Times New Roman,serif;color:#87b4a7">''WikiEditor''</b>]]^{[[User talk:WikiEditor1234567123|<b style="color:#87b4a7">123…</b>]]} 21:41, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|WikiEditor1234567123}}, no, CC 4.0 means that you can upload images posted by someone else under CC 4.0 as long as you attribute them. Maybe the following example will clear it up:

:*If someone publishes their original work Foo '''without invoking CC4.0''', it cannot be reused in any context without their express permission.

:*If someone publishes their original work Foo '''invoking CC4.0''', it can be used in any context as long as you give attribution to the original and do not attempt to impose restrictions on who can then share the original work.

:_signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 22:15, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

==Recent draftifications==

Hi Rosguill, thank you for your work reviewing redirects and articles. I just wanted to point out that the Wikipedia community decided to disallow draftification of old articles (i.e., articles older than 90 days). I'm quoting the guideline [[WP:ATD-I]] {{nq|Older articles—as a rule of thumb, those older than 90 days—should not be draftified without prior consensus at AfD.}} So, could you please revert the moves that are against this consensus and bring them to WP:AfD (so that it is not seen as soft deletions). I've identified some of them that trigerred [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/1076 1076 filter (6 months or older)]. There might be more because rule is 3 months or older while filter only captures 6 months or older. You may check your move log please.

* [[Draft:Childhood Yawn]]

* [[Draft:Athar Amin Zargar]]

* [[Draft:Akbar Nasir Khan]]

* [[Draft:Drumeo]]

* [[Draft:Medynsky family]]

Thank you. Have a great day. [[Special:Contributions/2.29.138.75|2.29.138.75]] ([[User talk:2.29.138.75|talk]]) 01:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

:As the guideline says, that's a rule of thumb. In most of these cases we're talking about articles that made it to the back of the NPP queue without anyone signing off on them, and where there are fairly apparent COI concerns--I stand by my decision to draftify them pending clarification of the editors' COI status. In the case of [[Draft:Athar Amin Zargar]], that was primarily, possibly exclusively, edited by a sockpuppet that engaged in widespread abuse and UPE; draftification there was an anti-UPE measure. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 01:19, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

== Thanks for your action on [[125 kilometer]] ==

An editor prodded [[125 kilometer]], and the prod was removed. I was just about to check for Russian language sources as that was called out by the de-prodder, but I see that you found that 125 kilometer was duplicative. I think the redirect is a good move. [[User:Bruxton|Bruxton]] ([[User talk:Bruxton|talk]]) 18:20, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

:I still cannot find anything so it was a good move. [[User:Bruxton|Bruxton]] ([[User talk:Bruxton|talk]]) 18:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

:Yeah, in Russian I find stations in Sverdlovsk and Irkutsk that appear equally prominent (i.e.: only in timetables and databases, less than notable) to the Vitebsk station that the article was written about. There also appear to be at least two stations in Ukraine by the same name. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 18:24, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

::It seems like a rather non-descript rail stop. Sigh, so much to do but thanks for all you do. I was working on a Russian reltated article about a [[Hanging Stone]]. And I have to do quite a bit of online translating. [[User:Bruxton|Bruxton]] ([[User talk:Bruxton|talk]]) 18:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

== Gepind2024 and others ==

I felt filing an SPI would take too long. I came across through these speedy deletion request on Commons: [[:c:File:Gepind P. Requierme.jpg]] and [[:c:File:Gepind Panganiban Requierme.jpg]], uploaded by User:Gepind2024. The files were used at five identical sandboxes of different users: [[User:Samarthvohra/Sample page]], [[User:Fellydino/Sample page]], [[User:Republic of west nelwon/Sample page]], [[User:IFreezeALot/Sample page]] and [[User:Itcpeproject/Sample page]]. ─ [[User:TheAafi|<span style="color:SteelBlue">The Aafī</span>]] [[User talk:TheAafi|<span style="color:#80A0FF">(talk)</span>]] 06:25, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

:I did it [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gepind2024|here]]. ─ [[User:TheAafi|<span style="color:SteelBlue">The Aafī</span>]] [[User talk:TheAafi|<span style="color:#80A0FF">(talk)</span>]] 13:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

::Just seeing this now. In general I think going to SPI is the right move, as even if the behavior is obvious enough for me to block on that basis, a CU will be able to potentially link it to a longer-term sockmaster. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 13:38, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

== Draft:Sudipto Sen ==

You mentioned that I may have COI with the subject, But I wanna ask how it is possible to have contact with such big director. This isn't first time I facing this issue, tired of giving clarification on COI. How a ordinary guy get in touch with such people. [[User:IVickyChoudhary|iVickyChoudhary]] ([[User talk:IVickyChoudhary|talk]]) 19:40, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

:Your choice of topics and patterns of editing thus far are consistent with that of an [[WP:UPE|undisclosed paid editor]]. You have not adequately justified how you have come to choose the various topics you write about in response to prior COI inquiries. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 19:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

::Damnnn again the same COI thing, if my work seems like Paid editor than can you guide me how to choose topics :) I'll surely follow that. As per my recent discussion with an admin, I come to know about Paid contribution tag, I'll use that if I will do any Paid work or COI thing in future. But all of sudden you take action on this page with the same COI thing, @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]] [[User:IVickyChoudhary|iVickyChoudhary]] ([[User talk:IVickyChoudhary|talk]]) 13:38, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

:::In general, I would recommend focusing on subjects that are historical, or which otherwise have no possible promotional motive. Biographies of still-active entertainment industry professionals are the most [[WP:UPE]]-prone topic, and you will raise people's suspicions if that is the focus of your editing (especially if your subjects of choice are not clear-cut cases for notability). _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 14:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

::::I'll choose topics of my interest, how can I work on thing I don't have any knowledge? I'll try to focus more on historical subject as of now. But all my work is not fully based on entertainment inudstry, and that guy Sudipto sen is seems notable as He directed many films some of are well known too and also he has few upcoming project. Kindly re look into that page, rest choice is yours as you have more knowledge about Wiki. <3 [[User:IVickyChoudhary|iVickyChoudhary]] ([[User talk:IVickyChoudhary|talk]]) 14:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

== [[Dmytro Kushneruk]] ==

Hello @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]]! You wrote "Ukrainian consul generals in the US are not heads of mission; the head of mission is Ambassador Oksana Markarova" - can you please back up this assertion? Intuitively, a consulate is a mission, and Markarova - being 3 timezones away - isn't its head. Of course, this intuition may be wrong, but we need some evidence or rationale. Thank you [[User:Qq8|Qq8]] ([[User talk:Qq8|talk]]) 16:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Qq8}}, head of mission typically means the head of the entire diplomatic mission, i.e. the top dedicated representative from Country A to Country B. For foreign relations where an ambassador is appointed, that top representative is the ambassador. In situations where there aren't full bilateral relations the top official may be a consul general (e.g. [[Taiwan–United States relations]]), but that is not the case for US-Ukraine, which have full ambassadors appointed bilaterally. It's also worth noting that [[WP:DIPLOMAT]] only has essay status, and thus is not an ironclad argument for keeping an article that otherwise falls short of GNG (although in my experience, ambassadors are routinely kept per that essay without any issue) _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 17:21, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

::Thank you for explaining, @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]]. I don't know if the Kushneruk article falls short of GNG (it has refs about Kushneruk and his official work). But that's a different issue, ofc. [[User:Qq8|Qq8]] ([[User talk:Qq8|talk]]) 01:47, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

== About the Dutch-Indonesians page ==

Hi, I see you've redirected the page 'Dutch-Indonesians' to Indos. Would you like to explain why? [[User:Sazhetsky123|Sazhetsky123]] ([[User talk:Sazhetsky123|talk]]) 03:53, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

:As can be seen from the page's history, the article was created by a [[WP:SOCK|sockpuppet]] evading a block, and their contributions are thus not welcome on Wikipedia. The article further appears to be a [[WP:CFORK]] of the current target, [[Indo people]], so any good-faith recreation of the article would also need to explain why a separate article is warranted. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 14:00, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

::Hi @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]],

::Under good-faith, I'm considering recreating the article under the article creation clause for a proper review. I believe it could be a valuable addition, given its relevance. I would ask permission first before I could go forward. What are your thoughts on this, and do you have any advice or insights?

::Cheers, [[User:Kaliper1|Kaliper1]] ([[User talk:Kaliper1|talk]]) 03:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC) <small>Edits: added @ and "a"</small>

:::{{u|Kaliper1}}, you can go ahead, but my two suggestions would be:

:::*While you may want to use some sources cited in the pre-existing revision, I would recommend starting with new prose written from scratch rather than restoring any of the sock's text.

:::*Before you begin in earnest, make sure that high-quality sources actually make a distinction between Indo people and Dutch-Indonesians; the current framing of the articles suggests that while Indo can technically refer to other European-Indonesian groups, in practice it refers primarily to Dutch-Indonesians. If that framing is accurate with reference to high quality sources and Indo predominantly refers to people of partial Dutch descent, creating a separate article is likely not warranted.

:::_signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 13:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

== Permission ==

@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]], I hope you're doing well. I saw you protect and redirect the page [[Solanki (Gurjar clan)]]. Against IP [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|disruption/vandalism]], I would like to get your permission to restore this page to the last version when I move the page from the inaccurate title [[Solankis]] to the accurate title Solanki (Gurjar clan), thinking that Solankis is more close to the Disambiguation page [[Solanki]]. and I did this because the subject was well sourced in accordance with [[WP:RS]] and [[WP:GNG]]. I'd like to expand and improve this page further, so if you will allow me, I'll restore it with your permission, ''{{Xt|but if you think I don't have the permission or it is against Wikipedia's guidelines, do let me know so I'll not insist.}}''[[User:Kokaabi|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">Kokaabi</span>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#F4A460;">[[User talk:Kokaabi|talk]]</span></small>}</b> 16:33, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

:Can you address the concerns raised by {{u|DreamRimmer}} and {{u|Chariotrider555}} that the content of the page was poorly referenced hoax material added by a sock farm? _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 16:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

::Nowadays, I notice numerous IPs and new users creating pages about Gurjar clans. Based on my experience, these articles seem to be hoaxes, created by copying existing clan names and connecting them with Gurjars. There are many LTAs trying to push Gurjar POV on Wikipedia by using primary sources published by Gurjar authors. The list is extensive, but I'd like to mention some for reference: [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Anujror]], [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bensebgli]], [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/PakistanHistorian]], [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Chauhan1192]]. In my experience in the [[Wikipedia:GSCASTE|GSCASTE]] area, I want to emphasize that almost all new creations using the term 'Gurjar clan' are likely hoaxes. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 17:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

:::@DreamRimmer, But how are you so sure that this should be related to any sock? We can check through Global Contributions or any related platform to confirm the facts. And I was the one who moved page '''Solankis''' to '''Solanki (Gurjars clan)''' and I did not take any further edits there, even though I had not made any edits there. I saw this page after a few days, but I don't understand if we don't have proof that this was actually a LTA or not, just as we thought.? It can be. I guess [[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]] can fix this matter. [[User:Kokaabi|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">Kokaabi</span>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#F4A460;">[[User talk:Kokaabi|talk]]</span></small>}</b> 17:31, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

::@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]], as not make any edits on the page except a move yet and yes I read

::* '''Chariotrider555''' concern that page was poorly sourced but that's not the fact I guess overall there were reliable sources one of them might not be reliable but without mentioning such source hard to understand and

::* '''DreamRimmer''' raised a concern that content might be posted by IP or by sock but he/she not mentioned the place were we could understand where it's a fact or not and I don't know how last concern can be addressed it's up to you.[[User:Kokaabi|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">Kokaabi</span>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#F4A460;">[[User talk:Kokaabi|talk]]</span></small>}</b> 17:22, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

:::Rosguill, I kindly ask for your assistance in deleting [[Solanki (Gurjar clan)]] since it was recently created by [[Special:Permalink/1196808294|moving]] [[Solankis]]. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 17:27, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

::@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]], I am leaving it to you as I addressed all the issues and I was the one who moved the page a week ago, and I guess '''DreamRimmer''' is not quite right here because all the links about random [[WP:SPI]] did not prove that such an IP that posted content on '''Solankis''' page was actually a sock or related to any sock according to the provided SPI links, but it's up to you whether you want to delete the page moved from Solankis to '''Solanki (Gurjar clan)''' or you want to use any trick to find out what the fact was thank you.[[User:Kokaabi|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">Kokaabi</span>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#F4A460;">[[User talk:Kokaabi|talk]]</span></small>}</b> 17:38, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*{{u|DreamRimmer}}, I'm not sure I see the need to delete the page, as there does appear to be some relevant information at [[Chaulukya dynasty]] where it currently redirects. That having been said, to {{u|Kokaabi}}'s points there are broad, valid concerns of [[WP:SYNTH]] and unreliable sources in the prior revisions of the page, in addition to the underlying context of pervasive sockpuppetry. If you believe that there is encyclopedic information to write on this topic, I would encourage you to start an article in draft space. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 17:36, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*:@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]], This is my first ever talk with any user or editor here, and I always try to maintain distance from edit wars, etc. Before doing anything, I asked your permission. Even here, I respect DreamRidersl's concern, but he has not yet succeeded in proving or explaining whether such an IP was genuinely linked to any sock or not, but in any [[WP:SPI]] provided links, such a fact has not been proved, so I would request that you, if you have any spare time, please look into this case and take your decision. I trust you, whatever you think is right would be acceptable for me. [[User:Kokaabi|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">Kokaabi</span>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#F4A460;">[[User talk:Kokaabi|talk]]</span></small>}</b> 17:44, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*::I would like to emphasize that the [[Chaulukya dynasty]] and [[Gurjar|Gurjar tribe]] are distinct entities. The Chaulukyas ruled over the regions of old [[Gujarat]] and [[Rajasthan]], collectively known as ''[[Gurjaratra]]''. This is why they were referred to as『Gurjararāja』and『Gurjareśvara,』meaning "ruler of Gurjara." This information can be verified via sources in the article. They belonged to the [[Solanki (clan)|Solanki clan]] of [[Rajputs]]. I hope this helps. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 17:48, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*:::{{u|DreamRimmer}}, understood; given the context of the underlying sockpuppetry, I'm going to treat the initial move from [[Solankis]] to [[Solanki (Gurjar clan)]] as a controversial move that should be proposed through [[WP:RM]], which Kokaabi can propose if they so choose. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 17:53, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*::Kokaabi, I've already looked into it and stand by what I've already said. The fact that there has been widespread sockpuppetry relating to "Gujjar clan" articles being created with very weak sourcing is not up for debate, I've seen plenty of examples first hand without even needing to look through the examples DreamRimmer has noted here. If you want to add content in relation to these topics, you should scrutinize every source and claim in keeping with [[WP:ARBIPA]] and [[WP:GSCASTE]]. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 17:49, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*:::@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]], alright, so now I should propose the transfer of Solankis to [[Solanki (Gurjar clan)]]. Should I start with the draft, or should I write a separate article?. In addition, I will obey the policies of [[WP:ARBIPA]] and [[WP:GSCASTE]].[[User:Kokaabi|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">Kokaabi</span>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#F4A460;">[[User talk:Kokaabi|talk]]</span></small>}</b> 18:02, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*::@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]], I don't know why DreamRimmer is quite possessive for [[Rajput]] or related topics. If I am wrong, sorry in advance, but I want to say that on the [[Solanki (clan)]] page, it is said that the Solanki clan is found in more than ten Indian communities. Even on the [[Rajput]] page, it is clearly mentioned that the [[Rajputs]] are descendants of Gurjars, Jats, Tribals, Shudras, Meena, and Ahir/Yadas. When in the Chaulukya dynasty page in the origin section, it is mentioned that Chaulukya and Solanki were [[Gurjar|Gurjars]]. How can DreamRimmer not accept the fact that many communities have the same clan names as Rajput? Even on the Solanki (clan) page, it is clearly mentioned that this clan is found in many communities. Why can Gurjar not have Solanki (Gurjar clan) on a separate page when [[Solanki (Mer clan)]] is also another community that has the same clan name.?[[User:Kokaabi|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">Kokaabi</span>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#F4A460;">[[User talk:Kokaabi|talk]]</span></small>}</b> 17:55, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*:::See last reply. You should expect sourcing in this topic area to be held to a very high standard, and are welcome to contribute so long as you can maintain that standard of quality. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 17:59, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*::::@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]], alright, so now I should propose the transfer of Solankis to Solanki (Gurjar clan). Should I start with the draft, or should I write a separate article?. In addition, I will obey the policies of [[WP:ARBIPA]] and [[WP:GSCASTE]] and thank you very much for giving us a nice solution. [[User:Kokaabi|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">Kokaabi</span>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#F4A460;">[[User talk:Kokaabi|talk]]</span></small>}</b> 18:05, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*::::@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]], please respond to my last query, if you don't mind.[[User:Kokaabi|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">Kokaabi</span>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#F4A460;">[[User talk:Kokaabi|talk]]</span></small>}</b> 18:15, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*:::::{{u|Kokaabi}} I would start work in draft space. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 18:17, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*::::::@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]], Okay, thank you very much. Have a great day. [[User:Kokaabi|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">Kokaabi</span>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#F4A460;">[[User talk:Kokaabi|talk]]</span></small>}</b> 18:21, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*:::Yeah, I have a deep interest in all pages related to [[Wikipedia:GSCASTE|GSCASTE]] and Indian history. Indian history was my chosen subject. Also I've actively participated in several SPI reports addressing Gurjar POV pushers. Through this involvement, I've gained a close understanding of the cases. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 18:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

*::::@[[User:DreamRimmer|DreamRimmer]], I appreciate your hard work and dedication throughout the past three years that you have been actively serving here. As a novice, I'm always eager to learn from veteran editors here.[[User:Kokaabi|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">Kokaabi</span>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#F4A460;">[[User talk:Kokaabi|talk]]</span></small>}</b> 18:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

== A kitten for you! ==

[[File:Cucciolo gatto Bibo.jpg|left|150px]]

Fantastic job spotting that LTA again! I was also on the lookout for clues, but you beat me to it. Thanks a bunch!

– [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 01:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

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== Peter's Sister ==

That episode was actually important as it gave a reason to Peter's abuse towards Meg. [[Special:Contributions/96.242.83.43|96.242.83.43]] ([[User talk:96.242.83.43|talk]]) 19:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

:An article should not be created unless there is enough coverage in independent [[WP:RS]] to meet [[WP:GNG]]. Episode reviewsinentertainment magazines are the most common form of RS for television episodes. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 19:55, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

== Question ==

Hello @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]]! I have a question: there's a free image of an Ingush writer [[Idris Bazorkin]] in the 1928-29 when he was young but can a non-free image under fair use be added into the article to depict what he looked like when he was old? [[User:WikiEditor1234567123|<b style="font-style:italic;font-family:Georgia,Times New Roman,serif;color:#87b4a7">''WikiEditor''</b>]]^{[[User talk:WikiEditor1234567123|<b style="color:#87b4a7">123…</b>]]} 20:09, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

:I would lean towards "no" on the basis that the younger image of him is sufficient illustration for a short biography. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 21:18, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

== Nomination of [[:Anointed One (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)]] for deletion ==

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The article will be discussed at '''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anointed One (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)]]''' until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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== Presidential provincial delegate of Cardenal Caro ==

The post of governor has been superseded. While it is true the article is not in great shape, I think it is notable and could be improved. There is plenty of coverage. I just haven't got the time to update it. Have a great day. [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|talk]]) 01:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

== Oversight ==

There's some activity from an account which is removing sources from the article [[Mousiotitsa]] without any explanation or arguments and is personalizing the discussion because they think other editors are admins. I thought that an actual admin might need to step in [[User talk:DHyperion#January 2024]] as they don't seem to realize that they can't just remove content based on their own personal views.--[[User:Maleschreiber|Maleschreiber]] ([[User talk:Maleschreiber|talk]]) 01:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

== Gabe Simon and Harlow16! ==

I noticed early this morning that you removed the [[Gabe Simon]] page for a multitude of reasons (rightfully so) and left a COI warning on Harlow16!'s page (I don't want to ping him). However, he has repeatedly reverted bot and human edits and keeps bringing the page back, removing maintenance tags, and ignoring warnings from you and bots. I am not an admin, and not even sure how this process works, but it is not hard for me to notice that this user's activity is problematic. [[User:Akyyka|Akyyka]] ([[User talk:Akyyka|talk]]) 21:39, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

:I saw your blocks and deletions. You're quick. Have a great rest of your day<br>

:- [[User:Akyyka|Akyyka]] ([[User talk:Akyyka|talk]]) 23:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Akyyka}} For future incidents, I would say that:

:*If the issue is ''only'' COI without any other problematic editing behavior, raise the issue at [[WP:COIN]] if you are not able to resolve the issue after leaving a relevant template.

:*If the issue is primarily [[WP:Edit war|edit warring]], you can file a report at [[WP:AN3]]

:*If the issue is primarily petty vandalism, you can file a report at [[WP:AIV]]

:*If the issue is none of the above, and is in a [[WP:CTOPS]] topic, you should file a report at [[WP:AE]]

:*For anything else, [[WP:ANI]]

:In this case, the edit warring against multiple editors on a single page, from an account [[WP:SPA|with no other constructive edits]], involving the repeated addition of copyright violations, is a slam dunk case for an indefinite block. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 23:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

::Thank you. Not sure if you've checked my edit history, but most of my contributions are surrounding music artists and New England history/infrastructure. I only found this user because of a random edit to [[Noah Kahan]] where s/he linked to [[Gabe Simon]], and immediately noticed red flags. In the past, I've submitted protection requests for [[Zach Bryan]] following vandalism from IP editors surrounding his arrest, but I was unaware of the procedure for dealing with autoconfirmed editors. Thank you for the resources.<br>

::- [[User:Akyyka|Akyyka]] ([[User talk:Akyyka|talk]]) 23:32, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

== Barbara Capponi page edit ==

Hello Rosguill,

I have received your message you left for me on your talk page. I am not directly or indirectly compensated for the edits made on Barbara Capponi page. I am just translating the information left on the Italian wikipedia page on her to the English version with appropriate references and sources. [[User:Soafy234|Soafy234]] ([[User talk:Soafy234|talk]]) 18:07, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

:Please respondonyour talk page so that the discussioniskept in one place. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 18:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

::Apologies for responding here again but I have a left a response to your question on my talk page incase you didn't receive that notification on your end. [[User:Soafy234|Soafy234]] ([[User talk:Soafy234|talk]]) 21:52, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

==[[WP:AE]]==

Hi, Rosguill, thanks for reporting Sudhansu7. As for not noticing their legal threat, perhaps you were too fascinated by the waist and buttocks stuff to take note of anything else? It made me blink all right. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] &#124; [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 20:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC).

:Haha, to be honest, I didn't realize that Google Translate could handle latinized Hindi and ignored it beyond noting it as another potential sign of CIR. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 20:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

== NY International FC ==

Dunno why I wasn't alerted to your "notability" header. I do not want to get into an edit war and would love to discuss it here. [[NY International FC]] has been mentioned by reliable sources, both for on the field performances and unfortunate tragedies. It was named in an international magazine ([[World Soccer Magazine]], June 2023 issue - I'd love your help sourcing that and should be able to show you the article). Its not perfect but I don't see why that's worth removing/redirecting the entire page. It plays in a historic league and has enough of a history that it merits being categorized. Also, there's Division 9 teams in England with less sources (I know that's WP:OTHERSTUFF but you need to understand how silly it is). Also, we can move this to the page's TALK page if that's better for record keeping. [[User:ColeTrain4EVER|ColeTrain4EVER]] ([[User talk:ColeTrain4EVER|talk]]) 02:09, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|ColeTrain4EVER}}, yes let's discuss. I think here is fine, since the paths forward from here are either a) we agree and implement the outcome b) we disagree, in which case it would be appropriate for you to revert my blanking of the page and discussion would proceed at AfD.

:This was my assessment of the sources cited:

:*[https://www.protagonistsoccer.com/underthelights/2020/1/19/new-york-international-fc Protagonist Soccer] - interview without additional analysis

:*[https://web.archive.org/web/20210410233019/https://www.cosmosoccerleague.com/going-beyond-it-s-roots-new-york-international-f-c-looking-to-kick-off-first-year-with-success/ Cosmo soccer league] - primary source from the league itself

:*[https://web.archive.org/web/20210410233019/https://www.cosmosoccerleague.com/going-beyond-it-s-roots-new-york-international-f-c-looking-to-kick-off-first-year-with-success/ World Soccer] - paywalled, could be good but I can't access it

:*[https://www.onceametro.com/2021/6/11/22529071/cosmopolitan-soccer-league-playoff-preview SBNation/OnceAMetro 1] - not entirely sure what to make of this source. The coverage is decent, but the branding on the page suggests a community website rather than a professional publication, and both the Staff link and the profile for the article's author lack additional information.

:*[http://elements.demosphere.com/74021/MatchReports/99119043/9065307.html Match report] - stats without analysis

:*[https://digital.abcaudio.com/news/columbia-university-student-stabbed-death-near-campus-way-home-soccer-practice ABC News] - Coverage of the death of Davide Giri but no more than a mere mention of the club

:*[https://nypost.com/2021/12/03/who-is-davide-giri-the-columbia-student-fatally-stabbed-in-nyc/ NYPost] - Ditto

:*[https://www.onceametro.com/2021/12/14/22833648/first-on-the-team-sheet-friends-and-league-remember-davide-giri SBNation/OnceAMetro 2] - similar situation as the first SBNation article, and it's the same author, which raises concerns that the author is affiliated with the club.

:*[https://www.onceametro.com/2022/6/15/23169342/lower-league-round-up-june-15-2022#:~:text=NY%20International%20FC%20Wins%20League%20Title%2C%20Organizes%205K%20for%20Fallen%20Teammate SBNation/OnceAMetro 3] - ditto

:*[https://nysoccertimes.com/2022/10/new-york-international-fc-president-nick-platt-on-the-clubs-progress-future/ NY Soccer Times] - interview without additional analysis

:*[https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesnalton/2023/03/28/new-york-international-fc-supports-ev-loves-nyc-bid-to-tackle-food-insecurity/?sh=8ef67fd35df1 Forbes contributor] - [[WP:FORBESCON]], not reliable

:*[https://qns.com/2022/06/ny-international-football-club-late-teammate-5k/ QNS] - ok coverage (more about Giri than the team, but it does mention the team in some detail), but the source looks like a community bulletin board more than a professional publication: no masthead, no about us, but there are submission forms.

:*[https://www.stevenson-school.org/blog/soccer Stevenson] - local school blog with minimal coverage of the team

:So, all told, it comes down to whether Mike Battista at SBNation/OnceAMetro is a reliable source. The most recent RSN discussion I found has a small consensus that it should be used only on a case by case basis, when the specific author is a recognized professional journalist or for completely uncontroversial details like match reports. My sense is that this bar isn't met here. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 15:02, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

::@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]] So first off, I have a copy of the World Soccer article (PDF). What would the best way to show that to you be (website or service where I can put it up for you to review)? I'm hoping to follow [[WP:Offline sources]] with this, especially with it being paywalled. But if you don't mind assuming good faith I would love to show it to you and you could help me cite it. I've never cited offline stuff before and want to do it correctly.

::As for Mike Battista, if we count him as a source it looks like he's written for [https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2023/03/appalachian-fc-sasquatch-open-cup-the-power-of-belief U.S. Soccer] itself. See the bottom where it says "regular contributor to TheCup.us, Once A Metro, & New York Sports Nation". Though [https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2023/10/bonding-growing-under-the-banner-of-sharktopus-fc a recent article] says he writes for Hudson River Blue now. Both of which are soccer websites for the New York area. If it comes down to SB Nation/Once A Metro being reliable, one of his articles there [https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/united-soccer-coaches-announces-2022-media-contest-winners/ won a national award] from [[United Soccer Coaches]]. Would USC being reputable and awarding Once A Metro give the website or author more credence? That makes sense on paper to me. [[User:ColeTrain4EVER|ColeTrain4EVER]] ([[User talk:ColeTrain4EVER|talk]]) 17:01, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

:::Regarding the offline source, I'm ok with accepting that on good faith. I'm not sure I find the examples bolstering Battista's case to be particularly strong, unfortunately. I'd rather see recognition from a journalistic body than a US Soccer body, as the latter isn't really independent. The media award seems to be an [https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/awards/association-awards/media-contest/ open-submission contest] hosted by a coaches' organization rather than a professional award for excellence in the field, and being a "regular contributor" doesn't sound like an actual staff journalist position. Can you find any [[WP:USEBYOTHERS]] for Battista's work? _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 17:25, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

::::I don't fully understand [[WP:USEBYOTHERS]] so apologies if I'm off base here. I'm not finding anything about them being staffed anywhere. Just articles at other websites for various different levels of soccer. Though there is one at [https://www.protagonistsoccer.com/coverage/nisa-valleyunited-immigration-issues Protagonist Soccer] (since that popped up before). But it calls him a guest contributor. Though at the very least I think that would eliminate the concerns that they are affiliated with the club? [[User:ColeTrain4EVER|ColeTrain4EVER]] ([[User talk:ColeTrain4EVER|talk]]) 17:41, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

:::::By USEBYOTHERS, I mean examples of established RS (e.g. ESPN, Sports Illustrated prior to the current meltdown, or any reputable non-sports newspaper) citing Battista's work in another publication. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 18:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

::::::Then I'm not so sure. It feels like they consistently write for Hudson River Blue, which used to be SB Nation but is independent now. But in terms of being mentioned by established RS I'm struggling. Is that a deal breaker then? It's frustrating since it feels like they're established enough as a "soccer source". Even if U.S. Soccer isn't independent, soccer itself isn't covered extensively in the United States like it is in Europe. So I think it should be worth something in terms of validity.

::::::Look, I don't think every soccer team needs a Wikipedia page. I don't think every Cosmopolitan Soccer League team needs one. But NYIFC feels like its a "notable" lower division soccer team in the United States. But because its lower division, and not playing in a national league, the types of sources it gets are lower. They won't get a NY Times article. But they do get covered by soccer media in New York. Combined with Giri's murder, the former Bundesliga player on their roster, and World Soccer mentioning them in an article about NYC soccer (and the team's tenable connection to the NY Cosmos fanbase) it feels like its low grade notable (but still notable). [[User:ColeTrain4EVER|ColeTrain4EVER]] ([[User talk:ColeTrain4EVER|talk]]) 19:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

:::::::I think it's a gray area, and for that reason, if you were to restore the article I would probably leave it to someone else to review. However, if you want a more definitive opinion on the source's reliability, I think it would be appropriate to open a thread at [[WP:RSN]] and ask whether Mike Battista writing at SBNation is sufficiently to contribute towards establishing notability for a soccer team and other sports journalism claims. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 20:05, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

::::::::@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]] wouldn't me restoring it after you reviewed it be a faux pas? Like, as much as I disagree with you I'm seeing a lot of praise for your work on this page. Plus your user page itself shows you know what you're talking about haha. I'll consider it though.

::::::::In the meantime, can I ask you two things:

::::::::1: What's the best way to cite the World Soccer article? Just add the info to the "Cite News" template? Like I said, never cited non-web material before.

::::::::2: Let's say NYIFC isn't ready right now. If they, say, enter [[U.S. Open Cup]] qualifying - that would be enough right? Since previous discussions have ruled participation in a national knockout tournament is basis for GNG.

::::::::In which case, thank you for not deleting the article and simply making it a re-direct. That would make restoring the page much easier. [[User:ColeTrain4EVER|ColeTrain4EVER]] ([[User talk:ColeTrain4EVER|talk]]) 19:19, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

:::::::::{{u|ColeTrain4EVER}} We do have {{t|Cite magazine}}, which you can find in the Insert --> Template menu instead of the usual citation menu.

:::::::::I'm not familiar with a standard that participation in a knockout tournament establishes notability. Back when [[WP:FPL]] was an active guideline, there was a standard that participation in a fully-professional league established notability for players, and in practice, teams were presumed notable in this situation as well. That might be what you're thinking of? _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 20:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

::::::::::If it helps, Rosguill, I have your talk page on my watchlist for some reason and saw the FC and got curious what this was from the header. I looked at the page before the redirect including analyzing the sources and I would send it to AfD for not passing GNG if restored. Not sure about World Soccer but apart from that I don't see a source that either sufficiently covers the team or is clearly reliable in the article. [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;">[[User talk:SportingFlyer|T]]</span>''·''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;">[[Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer|C]]</span>'' 20:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

::::::::::Got it, thanks @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]]. BTW, I was thinking of [[WP:FOOTYN]] which says "Teams that have played in the national cup (or the national tier(s) of the league structure in countries where no cup exists or in the countries whose national cup does not include all teams who play in the national league(s)) generally meet WP:GNG criteria". So I think the safer option here is to leave your decision as it is for now, especially after what @[[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] said. And if something changes I can restore the page at a later date with more acceptable sources. Which, again, I appreciate you not deleting it and making it a re-direct. [[User:ColeTrain4EVER|ColeTrain4EVER]] ([[User talk:ColeTrain4EVER|talk]]) 18:48, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

== Awareness ==

User Noorullah21 is a very dubious editor who has been requesting to get AutoPatrol and Pending Change Reviewer for not any honest reason but to have the authority to edit and revert the articles as he best fits suitable. This user is also very supportive of editors from his own ethnic group and ignores the disruption and vandalism caused by them. Here is one such example. An editor named Monabhaii made this edit using unreliable self published sources [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_battles_involving_the_Sikh_Empire&diff=1194154128]. Another good faith editor removed this change but Noorullah21 reverted the change back knowing very well that the sources are self published from Trafford Publishing and the other source is where the author is not even historian. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_battles_involving_the_Sikh_Empire&diff=1203901498]. So you can clearly see that for someone who is looking for AutoPatrol permit, how can you trust such editor who ignores such details of unreliable sources. He definitely cannot be trusted who also proudly likes to declare that he is supporter of Taliban.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Noorullah21&oldid=1155510539#Userboxes] editors like Monabhaii, Leviathan12, Abdullah7922 are suspected to be sock puppets of banned editor Kamal Afghan01 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kamal_Afghan01] as their edits overlap one another. Noorullah21 seems to be well aware but does not pursue to go against such sock suspects as they are contributing to his agenda. [[Special:Contributions/24.3.219.151|24.3.219.151]] ([[User talk:24.3.219.151|talk]]) 21:40, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

:While the edits at [[List of battles involving the Sikh Empire]] do give cause for concern, I don't see any discussion on the talk page that would make this rise above being a content dispute. In order for this complaint to go anywhere, you either need many more examples of poorly-justified edits by Noorullah or clear examples of them contradicting consensus or obviously misusing sources. The complaint about their professed support for the Taliban makes this notice seem like a political grievance, which further disinclines me to action. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 23:03, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

::You are right, mentioning professed support for Taliban was over the top but this awareness has nothing to do with political grievance. Focusing on awareness, there are many many examples which will be quite a tedious task to scroll through thousands of edits but I will give few more quick ones. Here is an example of canvassing. Noorullah21 made an edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Anglo-Afghan_War&diff=1194071918] but when this edit was reverted with good reasoning, another user Leviathian12 made EXACT same edit back [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Anglo-Afghan_War&diff=1194613716] and it was obvious of an ongoing canvassing which even another editor recognized [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Anglo-Afghan_War&diff=1194720400]. Another example, Noorullah21 removed sources with page numbers and more content with false misleading description that the sources had no page numbers [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kabul_Expedition_(1842)&diff=1203005781]. Reason is very clear and that is that if he isn't happy or satisfied with the result, he will create dubious misleading description to remove the good edits by other users. One more example, an editor removed [[WP:RAJ]] source which can not be verified and was added by a dubious editor Monabhaii. But Noorullah21 went ahead and added back the changes of Monabhaii knowing very well again that such [[WP:RAJ]] sources are not reliable especially when the source is poorly templated without any proof of verification. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Standoff_at_the_Khyber_Pass_(1834%E2%80%931835)&diff=1203901732], especially when he himself gave reason for one of his revert on another article for source being a [[WP:RAJ]] as seen here [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kabul_Expedition_(1842)&diff=1203005781]. All this is good enough reason to find this editor not suitable for any AutoPatrol permit. [[Special:Contributions/24.3.219.151|24.3.219.151]] ([[User talk:24.3.219.151|talk]]) 00:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

:::I would suggest that you bring this to ANI, as I think these accusations need collective evaluation, and that we also need to give an opportunity for Noorullah21 and other editors mentioned to provide explanations for their actions. I really only take admin actions based on reports to my talk page when the behavior is a simple, obvious violation that cannot be explained away as anything other than a clear inability/unwillingness to abide by policy. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 13:53, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

== Request for Review ==

Hello, hope you’re fine and well?

I really admire all your efforts and contributions. Thanks a lot.

Please, is it okay to ask if a review can be done on a page I created since over a month ago.

Here it is: [[Ebuka Songs]]. I humbly look forward to hearing from you soon.

Best regards. [[User:Mevoelo|Mevoelo]] ([[User talk:Mevoelo|talk]]) 11:57, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

:Sorry, I do not review articles on request. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 13:52, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

== January 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award ==

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|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | This award is given in recognition to Rosguill for collecting more than 500 points during the January 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 16,070 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 22:31, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

== Topic ban from 2022 may not have been logged? ==

Hello Rosguill. A [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Grandmaster current AE complaint] makes reference to a topic ban of [[User:Grandmaster]] that you imposed in 2022. A link to the ban is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Grandmaster&diff=prev&oldid=1072615557 here]

[[User:Vanamonde93]] has observed:

:{{talkquote|I am slightly confused as to why neither GM's 2022 TBAN nor its lifting can be found in the AE log, but I assume that if that TBAN was still in place someone would have mentioned it. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:45, 9 February}}

From a quick look I could not find the ban recorded in [[WP:DSLOG]]. Could you check and see if it is there? If not it's not too late for you to add it, because the log is only a form of record-keeping. Could the ban have been lifted somehow? If the indefinite ban is still in place ("indefinitely topic-banned from AA2"), then Grandmaster should not have been making edits on [[Flight of Nagorno-Karabakh Armenians]] at all. Thanks, [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 18:20, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:The ban was lifted by an AE decision about a year later IIRC. My guess is that it was probably deleted from the log, rather than struck, at that time. Here's the diff of me logging it in 2022 [[Special:Diff/1072614281]]. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 18:31, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

::Without throwing around any blame here - I'm quite capable of forgettingtolog - I do think we should enter both the original sanction and its lifting into the log. Both pieces of information are relevant, I'd say, for anyone evaluating the conflict down the road. [[User:Vanamonde93|Vanamonde93]] ([[User talk:Vanamonde93|talk]]) 18:33, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:::I found the edit where it was removed at the time of the sanction being lifted in October 2022, 8 months after the original ban. I've restored the original ban text, struck it, and provided an explanation with a link to the sanction appeal decision. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 18:37, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

::::[[User:Rosguill]], thanks for sorting this out. It is ironic that there is some advice at the top of DSLOG which states:

:::::{{talkquote|Whenever a sanction or page restriction is appealed or modified, the administrator amending it must append a note recording the amendment to the original log entry}}

::::So the strikeout (that you just implemented) is actually the preferred method for lifting a ban entry in DSLOG. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 03:18, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

== Withdrawing from your NPPSCHOOL ==

Hello Rosguill! Over a year ago (About October 2022), I became an NPPSCHOOL student of yours. I had a lot of trouble figuring out the curriculum and keeping up with it. As I haven't edited the page in four months and have a lot more experience with AfC and editing Wikipedia in general, I'd like to withdraw from this program. I feel bad about this, but I just don't think those questions were helping me and I could probably get the NPP user rights without them now. Sorry! <span style="font-family:Serif">[[User:Asparagusus|<span style="color:#562">'''—asparagusus'''</span>]] [[User talk:Asparagusus|<span style="color:#682">(interaction)</span>]] [[User:Asparagusus/Sprouts|<sup style="color:#050">''sprouts!''</sup>]]</span> 22:33, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

== Editor keeps deleting my Edits in bad faith ==

@[[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] keeps deleting the title section of the info box for the Article [[Ahmed Gurey]] despite me sourcing it in the article. He also deleted my edits to [[Zeila (Historical Region) for no reason. [[User:Matan ibn Uthman|Matan ibn Uthman]] ([[User talk:Matan ibn Uthman|talk]]) 02:15, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:Also I believe he is violating [[WP:Hound]] he keeps and following every edit I make and reverting it.

:A couple Examples:

:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zeila_(historical_region)&diff=prev&oldid=1205603119&title=Zeila_%28historical_region%29&diffonly=1

:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ahmad_ibn_Ibrahim_al-Ghazi&diff=prev&oldid=1205602555&title=Ahmad_ibn_Ibrahim_al-Ghazi&diffonly=1

:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_wars_involving_Somalia&diff=prev&oldid=1205600813&title=List_of_wars_involving_Somalia&diffonly=1

:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nasir_ibn_Uthman&diff=prev&oldid=1205154282&title=Nasir_ibn_Uthman&diffonly=1

:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_colonies&diff=prev&oldid=1205152178&title=List_of_colonies&diffonly=1

:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Slavery_in_Ethiopia&diff=prev&oldid=1205151981&title=Slavery_in_Ethiopia&diffonly=1

:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gulf_of_Aden&diff=prev&oldid=1203498757&title=Gulf_of_Aden&diffonly=1

:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sa%27ad_ad-Din_II&diff=prev&oldid=1203497690&title=Sa%27ad_ad-Din_II&diffonly=1 [[User:Matan ibn Uthman|Matan ibn Uthman]] ([[User talk:Matan ibn Uthman|talk]]) 02:18, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

::{{u|Matan ibn Uthman}}, looking through these edits, Zinnober9 appears to have generally provided proper justifications for their edits: across pretty much all of these edits, they responded to either a removal of sourced content without explanation, or the addition or reformulation of new content without a new source. Hounding only applies if there is {{tq|no overridingly constructive reason [for the edits].}}-- _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 13:30, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:::The content wasn’t sourced though. Not to mention he deleted the Ahmed Gurey edit despite providing a source [[User:Matan ibn Uthman|Matan ibn Uthman]] ([[User talk:Matan ibn Uthman|talk]]) 13:43, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

::::{{u|Matan ibn Uthman}}, you are pretty clearly editing against a talk page consensus at [[Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi]]; discussion has been ongoing since February 8 and is not looking to be in favor of your position, yet you reinstated your preferred version today on February 10. I would suggest that you self-revert and follow the discussion to its conclusion, or I'm going to have to block you. At [[Zeila (historical region)]], in [[Special:Diff/1205560379|this diff]] you remove content sourced to the Cambridge History of Africa with the edit summary {{tq|Added sources}}. At best, this is insufficient diligence on your part. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 13:57, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:::::But It’s a misquotation the source doesn’t say that [[User:Matan ibn Uthman|Matan ibn Uthman]] ([[User talk:Matan ibn Uthman|talk]]) 14:51, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

::::::Then you should have made that clear in the edit summary, rather than saying "added sources". _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 16:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

== Note ==

Hello @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]]! Just so you know, @[[User:Товболатов|Товболатов]] started again editing in the area where he's topic-banned from, see here: [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Artur_Beterbiev&diff=prev&oldid=1205017951&title=Artur_Beterbiev&diffonly=1], [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Artur_Beterbiev&diff=prev&oldid=1205020516&title=Artur_Beterbiev&diffonly=1], [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Artur_Beterbiev&diff=prev&oldid=1205465048&title=Artur_Beterbiev&diffonly=1]. Best regards, [[User:WikiEditor1234567123|<b style="font-style:italic;font-family:Georgia,Times New Roman,serif;color:#87b4a7">''WikiEditor''</b>]]^{[[User talk:WikiEditor1234567123|<b style="color:#87b4a7">123…</b>]]} 13:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:Hello @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]] again! I had not realized this much earlier but... isn't @[[User:Simba16|Simba16]] creating the article "[[Bersa Sheikh]]" and @[[User:Takhirgeran Umar|Takhirgeran Umar]] "[[Tovbolat Kurchaloevsky]]" considered [[WP:MEATPUPPETRY]] as the Russian analogies of these articles were all heavily edited by @[[User:Товболатов|Товболатов]] while the Russian analogue of the article "Tovbolat ..." was created by Товболатов? Seems like they created {{ill|lt=Kurchaloy|Kurchaloy (teip)|ru|Курчалой (тайп)}} (to which, I assume, Товболатов belongs) related articles for Товболатов while he's blocked. Best regards, [[User:WikiEditor1234567123|<b style="font-style:italic;font-family:Georgia,Times New Roman,serif;color:#87b4a7">''WikiEditor''</b>]]^{[[User talk:WikiEditor1234567123|<b style="color:#87b4a7">123…</b>]]} 15:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

::I'd want to see more evidence of cross-project meatpuppetry before taking action on this second accusation. It's likely going to take a fair amount of digging, and the involved accounts should be given a chance to speak to their case, so this is something that should be brought to AE, rather than my talk page, if you wish to pursue it further. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 15:38, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

==Review==

* Why isn't the article appearing on Google? I've been the Wikipedia editor for a long time now, and whenever I create articles they do appear on Google. But surprisingly this time, it didn't appear. So my question is, Why hasn't the article appeared on Google?

--[[User:Princessruby|Princessruby]] ([[User talk:Princessruby|talk]]) 07:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

:Articles should not appear on Google search until they have been marked as reviewed. I can't speak to whatever happened with the other articles you're thinking of, but it's not too unusual for Google to sometimes pick stuff up even when we haven't released it. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 14:14, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

== Can you please help me to get copy of a deleted profile ==

Dear Rosguill,

The profile that I have translated from Vietnamese into English ( profile of Michael Baron) got deleted. I really appreciate all feedback and would like to review my work and understand better how to create wiki profiles/improve the profile.

Could you please send me copy of the deleted profile if possible. I would like to see if I can make further improvements and i think others may edited it after me so I may not have final version

Thank you so much. I am really keen to understand better how to do the translations/creations of profiles.

Emma [[User:Emma knows it well|Emma knows it well]] ([[User talk:Emma knows it well|talk]]) 12:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

:No, this request suggests to me that you still fundamentally don't understand how English Wikipedia's inclusion policies work, and I'm frankly still under the impression that you have an ulterior motive in writing about Michael Baron. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 14:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

== Request ==

Hi @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]]. Could you please remove advanced flags from my alt account {{u|AafiOnMobile}}? I don't see any need of these flags at the moment. Best regards, ─ [[User:TheAafi|<span style="color:SteelBlue">Aafī</span>]] [[User talk:TheAafi|<span style="color:#80A0FF">(talk)</span>]] 18:59, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

:{{Done}} _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 19:02, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

::Thank you. ─ [[User:TheAafi|<span style="color:SteelBlue">Aafī</span>]] [[User talk:TheAafi|<span style="color:#80A0FF">(talk)</span>]] 19:08, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

== Extremely snide comments ==

Hello, User:Botushali, whom you recently warned about CTOPS, has been making snide comments at [[Talk:Lynkestis]], especially this: '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lynkestis&diff=prev&oldid=1207089754 As a side note, I don't know what kind of children's books Alexikoua is reading. None of the books I read as a child were all about domination...]'''. This, after they cast aspersions against me [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lynkestis&diff=prev&oldid=1207074708], and after I warned him against doing that, this was their response [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lynkestis&diff=prev&oldid=1207083736]. I have contacted another admin who is familiar with this user, but since you are the admin that issued the CTOPS notice, I felt it appropriate to contact you as well. For the record, this is a major flashpoint article, with lots of reverts and tension in the talkpage. [[User:Khirurg|Khirurg]] ([[User talk:Khirurg|talk]]) 02:31, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

:Hi Rosguill.

:Let me start off by stating that Khirurg has complained on the talk page of the admin @[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]], who was rational enough to realise that the usage of the term “childish” is in reference to Alexikoua utilising the term “childish” in unfitting contexts. I’d perhaps toss that up to a language barrier for Alexikoua, but they do have a track record of using that word a lot. Anyways, that’s not really an issue here.

:Indeed, I have actual diffs that provide concrete proof of Khirurg reverting me on a couple instances without checking the sources, only to admit they were wrong. So either they were reverting me out of spite, or they were intentionally falsifying sources. I can provide these diffs if need be.

:In regards to Khirurg’s “warning”, this was it: {{tquote|I strongly recommend you avoid edit-warring and casting aspersions, unless you want your 3 month block at [[Battle of Kosovo]] to become wikipedia-wide.}} Hardly seems like an appropriate or mature warning to me - it’s quite “inflammatory” (for lack of a better term), so I’m surprised that Khirurg is now complaining about me for responding in a tone that matches theirs. Keep in mind this “warning” is coming from the same user who keeps a [[User:Khirurg/Taunts|list of taunts]] to try and victimise themselves to the admins with - on this very list there are '''3 (yes, not 1, but 3)''' examples of editors bringing up Khirurg’s past blocks. So, that means Khirurg considers editors mentioning their past blocks as taunts, as Khirurg compiles them on a list of “taunts” against him. In that case, he is intentionally taunting me by bringing up my past block? Interesting stuff. [[User:Botushali|Botushali]] ([[User talk:Botushali|talk]]) 06:55, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

*{{u|Khirurg}}, {{u|Botushali}}, the complaints raised here seem mild enough that I'm not inclined to take action at this time. If you think there is a stronger case to be made that this is a pattern of behavior (with appropriate diffs to back it up), I'd suggest taking it to AE, I really only consider acting on obvious, open-and-shut cases brought to my attention here. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 14:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

== Talk page access ==

<small>*here from the active admins list*</small><br>

Hello. Can you please remove this IP's talk page access?: [[Special:Contribs/203.59.230.30|203.59.230.30]]. They are abusing it. &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|talk]]) 03:36, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you :). &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:8086:5501:5D65:401E:4412:A164|talk]]) 03:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

== Forgot to move talk page ==

Hi, it seems like you forgot to move the talk page of [[Caddebostan, Kadıköy]] to [[Caddebostan]]. Cheers! [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Youprayteas | c]]) 11:34, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

:That's odd, that should have happened automatically. At any rate, now that you added the {{t|old afd}} tag to [[Talk:Caddebostan]] there isn't anything that really needs to be moved there. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 13:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

::That's true, just wanted to point it out, seemed odd to me that's why. [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Youprayteas | c]]) 14:28, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

== Notability ==

After the first notability tag on the [[2023–24 LEN Women's Euro Cup]], I brought several foreign articles into the page to improve it. Now, you've put the notability tag back for the page without giving me even an explanation. I have no clue what is wrong with this page. [[User:ILoveSport2006|ILoveSport2006]] ([[User talk:ILoveSport2006|talk]]) 18:28, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

:The sources you cite do not add up to [[WP:GNG]]. The best form of coverage for demonstrating that would be in-depth reporting of the championship itself. Looking at the sources cited:

:*[https://total-waterpolo.com/changes-to-european-competitions-reinforced-in-belgrade/ Total-Waterpolo] has minimal coverage of the Women's Euro Cup

:*[https://www.fosonline.gr/polo/eyropi/article/267145/len-euro-cup-gynaikon-oi-antipaloi-tis-glyfadas FOS Online] mostly just reprints the bracket listing.

:*[https://waterpolo.ffnatation.fr/fr/posts/news/344151 FFNation] has an unbylined press release

:*[https://www.nemzetisport.hu/vizilabda/2023/09/noi-vizilabda-a-bl-ben-is-osszekerult-az-eger-es-a-ferencvaros Nemzeti Sport] gives very minimal coverage to the Women's Euro Cup alongside several other competitions

:*[https://www.il-meridiano.it/sport/altri-sport/sport-acquatici/7217-pallanuoto-trieste-effettuati-i-sorteggi-delle-coppe-europee-per-maschi-e-femmine.html Il Meridiano] has another press release.

:The kind of coverage that actually establishes notability would be sources that analyze the event in depth, rather than just repeating announcements regarding its format. Examples of this kind of coverage are articles like [https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64952428 this one], that examine the implications of the tournament's schedule, or [https://web.archive.org/web/20181107025617/https://timesofoman.com/article/73579/Sports/Football/Football:-Ignored-in-Europe-Club-World-Cup-finds-adulation-in-SAmerica this article] that comments directly on the cultural significance of the subject tournament, or detailed match writeups such as [https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/super-bowl-2018-patriots-26-yard-field-goal-attempt-ends-with-crazy-miss/ this].

:Now, in this case I think it's plausible that there exists such writeups spread across multiple languages, that may be difficult to find due to the rather generic name of the tournament (and that "LEN" often ends up either translated or omitted, making searching for coverage even harder), which is why today I placed the {{t|notability}} tag and also marked the page as reviewed, releasing it from the new pages queue for search engine indexing. I had actually forgotten that I had previously tagged this page a few weeks back; I simply came across it again while going through the new pages queue today. Had I believed that this subject has no shot at establishing notability, I would have proceeded to nominate it for deletion. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 18:56, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

== Neutral Edits ==

@[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]] I edit on a neutral ground. Am not receiving anything from anybody and not compensated by anybody. I follow the wikipedia policy. I work as an editor on Wikipedia, so as to contribute in a free an fair way Thanks. [[User:Jutos222|Jutos222]] ([[User talk:Jutos222|talk]]) 00:12, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

== Regarding High Commission of The Gambia, New Delhi ==

Dear Rosguill.

The edits and contributions are made on neutral grounds on subjects where i fairly know a bit more or would have read it. i spend 5-6 hours everyday reading news and content as part of my job, so i would fairly know more about a few developments. I am not paid by anyone to do these things and i am not related to any of these folks. I have gone ahead and undone the edit and i hope I have your respect and goodwill towards the same. Thank you Rosguill. Apologies if my edits created confusion, but i work in full compliance with wiki policies. Sincerely, yours. [[User:BellaNYork|BellaNYork]] ([[User talk:BellaNYork|talk]]) 04:49, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|BellaNYork}}, be sure to review [[WP:N|notability guidelines]]--separate from the COI inquiry, the High Commission of Gambia, New Delhi article does not meet this guideline as written. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 13:47, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

::Dear Rosguill ! You are the best judge, your primary contention was COI which I clarified, now you change the same to notability. After all it is a government embassy and by default it is notable. Should we wish to change, delete the same, we defeat the very purpose of how society and readers would benefit. I call upon your wisdom to permit the same and i hope good sense prevails. My highest regards and assurances ! Keep cheerful & thank you for your time and consideration. [[User:BellaNYork|BellaNYork]] ([[User talk:BellaNYork|talk]]) 16:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

:::{{u|BellaNYork}}, Government offices are not notable by default. Please actually read [[WP:N|our notability guidelines]]. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 16:46, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

== Page moves ==

I wanted to leave a personal message for you. I appreciated your thoughtful responses to me during the unblock discussion. I have a question about the page moves. I noticed later that the latest review I found about the Tohoku earthquake was still describing the plate that Honshu is located on as the "North American or Okhotsk plate" [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Okhotsk_microplate&diff=prev&oldid=1205468964]. Microplate was used by Britannica. I got these mixed up. Britiannica is a pretty bad source for tectonic plate articles. I wonder if this is why Vanezi considered the moves inconsequential? It was a mix up on my part so it's ok with me if you undo them. [[User:Cornsimpel|Cornsimpel]] ([[User talk:Cornsimpel|talk]]) 06:36, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

:I think Vanezi's reasoning was more that your edits looked like an uncharacteristic burst of quick activity in response to learning about the extended-confirmed rules than anything else. As I myself have very minimal familiarity with tectonic plate articles, I'd defer to whatever you think is the best representation of reliable sources on these topics. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 13:58, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

::I read [[WP:GAME]] carefully and the policy only says "making unconstructive edits" to gain EC is not allowed. I don't think my edits were unconstructive by any reasonable interpretation and I was close to EC anyway.Even though no one but you and Vanezi supported a topic ban, I am not going to edit in that topic area again because this is a low priority subject for me. It doesn't effect me personally, I am not of Armenian or Turkish heritage, and I am allowed to contribute on many diverse areas of this project without experiencing hostility towards my contributions. I am disinclined to make contributions that I can feel are unwanted even if I don't understand ''why'' they are unwanted. Vanezi simply does not want me to be allowed to edit about Armenian ethnic conflict, which according to him, includes edits about earthquakes and fault zones in modern Turkey, ''and'' I am not going to fight you over this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eastern_Anatolia_Region&diff=prev&oldid=1205024994]. Additionally, I had an opportunity to review Vanezi's edits, and I think you should also review Vanezi's edits more carefully and be a little more slow on the trigger in the future. The articles currently seem to slant towards a pronounced right wing Armenian nationalist viewpoint where I would encourage more of a diversity of views among Armenians of different views to be represented in the talk page discussions. Vanezi's removals and edit summaries to the [[Western Armenia]] article show that his definition of Western Armenia is strictly geographical[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Western_Armenia&diff=prev&oldid=1158962379] and challenged by the high quality sourced content that I added to the [[east Anatolia]] article (without intending to challenge him)[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eastern_Anatolia_Region&diff=prev&oldid=1206162370]. He does not want to discuss it on the talk page, so, whatever. If I had understood this before editing, I would not have made those changes to the article because I am ''not'' going to edit in a ''minefield''. I simply will not and I don't think good faith editing should be a blockable offense on Wikipedia, even when it gets heated. Please consider my viewpoint for the future. All editors are allowed to edit, but I will not cause any further problems by editing this contentious topic. [[User:Cornsimpel|Cornsimpel]] ([[User talk:Cornsimpel|talk]]) 13:05, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

== International Association for the Study of Dreams (AfD) ==

Hi, many thanks for drawing attention to the woeful lack of reliable sources at [[International Association for the Study of Dreams]]. I've done my best at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Association for the Study of Dreams|the AfD]] to provide multiple new references, including three from ''The Washington Post'', which I found by searching for the organisation's old name "Association for the Study of Dreams". I've listed seven of the best sources at the AfD and I think you should be able to pick your own "top 3" from these. Hope this helps, <b>[[User:Esowteric|<span style="color: green;">Esowteric</span>]]<small> + [[User talk:Esowteric|<span style="color: blue;">Talk</span>]] + [[Special:Contributions/Esowteric|<span style="color: red;">Breadcrumbs</span>]]</small></b> 08:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:Hey {{u|Esowteric}}, I appreciate the work you've put into this. Unfortunately, I've hit the WaPo paywall, so I'll defer to what others can say about the relevant sources. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 15:27, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

::Thanks, Rosguill. Yes, I hit the pay wall after three freebies yesterday. I discounted a fourth WP article after reading the page source with much difficulty. <b>[[User:Esowteric|<span style="color: green;">Esowteric</span>]]<small> + [[User talk:Esowteric|<span style="color: blue;">Talk</span>]] + [[Special:Contributions/Esowteric|<span style="color: red;">Breadcrumbs</span>]]</small></b> 15:33, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

== Archived ==

Hi. The report I've opened was auto archived [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1208309625], but shouldn't it be closed first? [[User:Vanezi Astghik|Vanezi]] ([[User talk:Vanezi Astghik|talk]]) 15:29, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

== Answer ==

Hi. You are mistaken. Kind Regards. [[User:BobVillars|BobVillars]] ([[User talk:BobVillars|talk]]) 00:05, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

== [[Nazran Airport]] ==

Hello @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]]! Is there a way to make a request to delete not only the enWiki page but also the faWiki and tgWiki pages of this article? No airport exists in Nazran. Best regards, [[User:WikiEditor1234567123|<b style="font-style:italic;font-family:Georgia,Times New Roman,serif;color:#87b4a7">''WikiEditor''</b>]]^{[[User talk:WikiEditor1234567123|<b style="color:#87b4a7">123…</b>]]} 20:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|WikiEditor1234567123}}, not to my knowledge, you'll have to either file deletion procedures following those projects' local instructions, or potentially you may be able to get help from a steward on metawiki (this is not my area of expertise). _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 04:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

:: {{tps}} The process for wikis with no active administration would be to request at [[m:GSR]]. For wikis with active local administration (which includes both fawiki and tgwiki IMO, but I'm not the one making the decision) then you have to follow local processes and the stewards won't do anything. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 18:34, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

== PBS Kids Sprout ==

Can you take another look at [[PBS Kids Sprout]]? It looks like the IP editor tried to make it a stub again. -- [[User:William Graham|William&nbsp;Graham]]&nbsp;^{[[User talk:William Graham|talk]]} 22:56, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|William Graham}}, I think we can give the page a little bit more time, seeing as the IP's last edit was an hour ago or so. If they fail to provide sources again in a day or two (or if the page gets another cycle of BLAR and recreation without the provision of sources), then I think page protection will be appropriate. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 23:09, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

==[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Association for the Study of Dreams]]==

Hello, Rosguill,

A lot of editing has been done on this article since it was nominated by you. Can you review its development and see whether you still believe it merits deletion?

P.S. I saw the PBS Kids Sprout note and it reminds me of sockpuppets we have who continue to try to create that article as well as ones for other children's TV series. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 05:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Liz}}, I'm a little bit disinclined to re-review it per the reasoning at [[User:Rosguill/New_pages_patrol_is_racist#Behavior_at_AfD]] (racism isn't the issue here, but I think that the same "the goal of AfD is not to win" attitude may apply here) I suspect that the available sources still fall short of ORGCRITE but don't want to over-influence the discussion. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 14:26, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

== Seeking adoption ==

Hi!

I’m fairly inexperienced in Wikipedia despite making minor edits for a few years. (I’m a professional editor irl.)

I find the system here to be extremely daunting and non-transparent: Particularly, I’ve truly had trouble navigating the protocol to appeal editorial decisions? I can’t find earlier (archived?) conversations on talk pages, to track the history of issues. I’ve felt intimidated by specific seniors with what I’ve perceived as a dismissive, arrogant “rightness”. I would love some respectful guidance.

thank you.

[[User:Chico1112|Chico1112]] ([[User talk:Chico1112|talk]]) 08:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Chico1112}}, could you clarify a bit more what sorts of editing you're having difficulty with? _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 14:34, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

== House of Romay deletion abandoned ==

Good morning @[[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]]. I believe House of Romay deletion discussion reached community majority, but I also feel it's been abandoned after the initial 4 sockpuppets were blocked, with two new ones popping up and currently reviewed as potential sockpuppets too - this could be endless. As a neutral, and only polyglot admin (that has reviewed Spanish and English info and also voted delete) I thought perhaps you can do the honors. [[User:Benzeneshamus|Benzeneshamus]] ([[User talk:Benzeneshamus|talk]]) 15:11, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Benzeneshamus}}, I don't think I'm the only polyglot admin, but regardless, as I have !voted in the discussion, I am considered [[WP:INVOLVED]] and cannot close it. I expect a patrolling admin will likely close it later today, as it is currently sitting in the ready-to-close queue. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 15:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

== Draft Michael Beil ==

Hi Rosguill,

I have discussed my previously rejected draft of an article about Michael Beil with the reviewer. It was not an easy process, but I think I managed to address all relevant issues with the article.

During that process, something rather disturbing happened. Michael Beil reached out to me to inform me that he has been contacted by a number of people via email, claiming to be Wikipedia editors and offering him help to get 'his' page published. I read the page about this type of scam and I will report the emails. I wanted to let you know as well.

Best [[User:RDiependaele|RDiependaele]] ([[User talk:RDiependaele|talk]]) 19:39, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

==Lambanilakyanaik==

Hi, Rosguill. Thanks for giving Lambanilakyanaik a CT alert and a warning that they need to reply about COI/UPE. I don't know if you're aware of [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ramaprabha1]]? I actually think L is pretty ripe for an indef, whether or not they're a sock. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Lambanilakyanaik The edit filter] alone... But now that you've warned them, it may of course be as well to wait a bit. A CU is presumably also coming for them. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] &#124; [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 19:26, 29 February 2024 (UTC).

:{{u|Bishonen}}, I was not familiar with the SPI or the prior account that they're suspected of being linked to; I wouldn't oppose an indef for general disruption/CIR at this time. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 19:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

== Bro ==

Okay dude you can stop merging my pages into other ones. Plenty of other airports have pages with that amount of info. Go work on the ones without pages

[[User:Jerik.mitchell|Jerik.mitchell]] ([[User talk:Jerik.mitchell|talk]]) 07:30, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Jerik.mitchell}}, please see [[WP:OWN]] and [[WP:OSE]]. All pages are expected to meet [[WP:N|notability guidelines]] in order to provide adequate context for readers. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 14:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

::Bro? ridiculous; till now, I was in the dilemma that Rosguill is a female administrator. My apologies, Rosguill, if I have ever used the wrong pronoun for you due to a misunderstanding in any of my past interactions with you. Regards. [[User:Maliner|Maliner]] ([[User talk:Maliner|talk]]) 15:18, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

:::As I note on my user page, my pronouns are they/them. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 15:23, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

::::Thanks. I missed that. I have just noticed that you have knowledge of almost 15 languages. I see nowadays you are mostly dealing with South Asian sockpuppets. How about learning Hindi, Bangla, Urdu, and Nepali? a few days before I requested [[User:Usedtobecool|Usedtobecool]] to run for RfA as he is one of the sophisticated new page patrollers from Nepal who also hunts sockpuppets frequently. Regards [[User:Maliner|Maliner]] ([[User talk:Maliner|talk]]) 15:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

:::::I do want to study Indian languages , we'll see when I can find time for it _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 15:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

:::::[[User:Maliner|Maliner]], you're far too kind.<span id="Usedtobecool:1709654438793:User_talkFTTCLNRosguill" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;'''[[User:Usedtobecool|Usedtobecool]]'''&nbsp;[[User talk:Usedtobecool|☎️]] 16:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)</span>

:::I used to read "Rosguill" as Rose-gul ("gul" being the word for flower in, I want to say, Urdu). And I used to think you were German, until you responded to my call for Spanish-speaking admins, which made me go back to check your userpage again. Seems "oh, they know German!" from my first visit somehow turned into "yeah, they're German" over time. I just googled Rosguill to find out it's an Irish peninsula, hah!<span id="Usedtobecool:1709656123437:User_talkFTTCLNRosguill" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;'''[[User:Usedtobecool|Usedtobecool]]'''&nbsp;[[User talk:Usedtobecool|☎️]] 16:28, 5 March 2024 (UTC)</span>

::::Thank you so much @[[User:Usedtobecool|Usedtobecool]]. It is very nice to know that you are familiar with Urdu too. This will surely help you deal with abusive Pakistani sockpuppets too. I think you will be one of the great administrators from South Asia if you ever run. I am requesting Rosguill's opinion on this, as I have seen that their support at RFA is highly regarded, especially for the patroller candidates requesting for adminship. [[User:Maliner|Maliner]] ([[User talk:Maliner|talk]]) 06:09, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

== Sudani ==

Hello Mr. Rosguill, [[Sudatel]] and [[Sudani]] aren't the same company; Sudatel is the parent company, and many companies are under it, and Sudani is one of them. So they shouldn't have been in the same article. [[User:Ibrahim Old|Ibrahim Old]] ([[User talk:Ibrahim Old|talk]]) 20:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Ibrahim Old}}, subsidiary companies are only given separate articles if they independently meet [[WP:NCORP]]. The [[Special:Diff/1211986195|most recent version]] of the article has no sources other than an article by the company itself, which falls far short of the NCORP guideline. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 20:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

::Now I understand. But what if I added different sources? Will it be approved? [[User:Ibrahim Old|Ibrahim Old]] ([[User talk:Ibrahim Old|talk]]) 11:22, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

:::if the sources are strong enough to meet the specifications laid out at [[WP:ORGCRITE]] (part of NCORP), yes. Meanwhile, if you can find some secondary coverage but still fall short of NCORP, it may be more appropriate to add information about Sudani as a subsection of the Sudatel article. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 14:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management|Conflict of interest management]]: Case opened ==

Hello {{u|Rosguill}},

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management]]. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management/Evidence]]. '''Please add your evidence by March 20, 2024, which is when the evidence phase closes.''' You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management/Workshop]]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration]].

For the Arbitration Committee,<br>[[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 20:03, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|ToBeFree}}, I was under the impression that ARBCOM does not consider the actions/evidence relating to az.wiki sysopstobe in-scope for this case. Is that not the case? _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 20:05, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

::Thanks for asking, I'll forward this – but [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy#Jurisdiction|ArbCom's jurisdiction]] is limited to enwiki and the reason for including each party is based on their enwiki contributions, so I may need more details about why this could look as if it was in scope. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 20:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

:::Aah, I think I see what you mean now. One moment please. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 20:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

:::I haven't received a reply yet, but you're referring to {{u|Atakhanli}} and {{u|Wertuose}}. They haven't been named as parties, however, and the scope of the case is {{tq|The intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy, in the frame of the conduct of the named parties.}} To my understanding, other users' behavior is not in this frame and thus out of scope. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 20:25, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

::::As a drafter I can confirm that those two editors conduct is currently outside of scope. With this case the committee has gotten a few other COI reports which are being worked on independently so if this would fall inside our scope, please do contact us. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 20:29, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

== Lemontwigs1 ==

How are you with an unblock on this one, per request on their talk page? [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 07:53, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Daniel Case}}, I think that the fan explanation is plausible enough. Might be good to remind them about notability guidelines before unblocking though. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 14:29, 8 March 2024 (UTC)