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*'''Oppose deletion'''. If this template did not exist, someone would have to create it. We need the ability to tag IP talk pages that are being used for sock-puppetry. If there are problems with the wording, they can be fixed. But the basic principle is that editors need to collaborate - and to do this editors need to share information. There are situations when an editor is using a different IPs to make it look as if he/she is more than one person and create the illusion of support for his/her POV. There are also situations when editing from IPs is used to get round blocks. By putting these tags down a markers, it is practical to keep track of some of this and take appropriate action. The alternative is that we all have our own bespoke tag, that we paste in.--[[User:Toddy1|Toddy1]] ([[User talk:Toddy1|talk]]) 05:20, 29 September 2013 (UTC) |
*'''Oppose deletion'''. If this template did not exist, someone would have to create it. We need the ability to tag IP talk pages that are being used for sock-puppetry. If there are problems with the wording, they can be fixed. But the basic principle is that editors need to collaborate - and to do this editors need to share information. There are situations when an editor is using a different IPs to make it look as if he/she is more than one person and create the illusion of support for his/her POV. There are also situations when editing from IPs is used to get round blocks. By putting these tags down a markers, it is practical to keep track of some of this and take appropriate action. The alternative is that we all have our own bespoke tag, that we paste in.--[[User:Toddy1|Toddy1]] ([[User talk:Toddy1|talk]]) 05:20, 29 September 2013 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' until an alternative is devised to listify IP socks that have been identified by behavioral evidence etc. This came up on AN about a year ago too. This is essential in the case of some prolific sockmasters who jump IPs often and are restricted to a few ranges as it helps identify these socks for those involved in such cleanup. There is potential for abuse with such a template, but that should be fixed separately with consequences for the editor(s) abusing this. While tagging every IP sock to populate categories appears silly and can be a problem for the next editor, there is a need to keep this list as it helps link certain edits to certain masters based on the ranges. I would support an alternative where such a template addition causes a bot to add this to an SPI subpage along with diffs (similar to a CCI page) and then remove the template from the IP talk page with a link in the edit summary (or if the SPI is non existent, allow the editor to create one and if not, just remove the template). This way, the next person to use the IP isn't offended but there's also sufficient info for anyone investigating. —[[User:SpacemanSpiff|< |
*'''Keep''' until an alternative is devised to listify IP socks that have been identified by behavioral evidence etc. This came up on AN about a year ago too. This is essential in the case of some prolific sockmasters who jump IPs often and are restricted to a few ranges as it helps identify these socks for those involved in such cleanup. There is potential for abuse with such a template, but that should be fixed separately with consequences for the editor(s) abusing this. While tagging every IP sock to populate categories appears silly and can be a problem for the next editor, there is a need to keep this list as it helps link certain edits to certain masters based on the ranges. I would support an alternative where such a template addition causes a bot to add this to an SPI subpage along with diffs (similar to a CCI page) and then remove the template from the IP talk page with a link in the edit summary (or if the SPI is non existent, allow the editor to create one and if not, just remove the template). This way, the next person to use the IP isn't offended but there's also sufficient info for anyone investigating. —[[User:SpacemanSpiff|<font color="#BA181F">Spaceman</font>]]'''[[User_talk:SpacemanSpiff|<font color="#2B18BA">Spiff</font>]]''' 06:09, 29 September 2013 (UTC) |
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* '''replace''' the blocked ones with {{tl|SockBlock}}. remove from pages where there is no SPI, and make the SPI link mandatory, then archive all the old ones from dynamic IPs (e.g., the work by [[User:SharedIPArchiveBot]]). [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 15:30, 29 September 2013 (UTC) |
* '''replace''' the blocked ones with {{tl|SockBlock}}. remove from pages where there is no SPI, and make the SPI link mandatory, then archive all the old ones from dynamic IPs (e.g., the work by [[User:SharedIPArchiveBot]]). [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 15:30, 29 September 2013 (UTC) |
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