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Thanks. — Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 08:48, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Is anyone in this project also involved in discussions about disambiguation pages? I had a question from recent experience relating to articles on some West African surnames, which I posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#Borderline between dab page and name page II. --A12n (talk) 02:47, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is a bright line between a name page and a disambiguation page. At the extremes, if there is going to be a lot of content about the name, it should be a name page, but if there is only a list of names, it should be a disambiguation page. In the middle there may be pages that could go either way. SchreiberBike (talk) 04:59, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_April_12#Category:African-language_surnames. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 16:49, 25 April 2013 (UTC)Template:Z48[reply]

Please comment at Talk:Abdur Rahman on what to do about this very long page. Ego White Tray (talk) 8:04 pm, 5 May 2013, last Sunday (5 days ago) (UTC−5)

not all zaidis are shia ...i am a Sunni Zaidi ...pleas provide the percentage of zaidi peoplle according to the sect or some comparison of Sunni and shitte zaidis

If you are looking for the answer to a question, you might ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk. If the information is in Wikipedia, they might be able to find it. If you want to add information to Wikipedia relating to the Zaidiyyah page, you could discuss it at Talk:Zaidiyyah. If you can provide reliable sources about what you would like to add, you can make Wikipedia more accurate. I hope that helps. SchreiberBike (talk) 01:14, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(Sorry if this is answered elsewhere, but I've no previous knowledge of your project). Please could someone clarify whether it's OK to create a "Surname" page with a single entry in it, and no sources, references, explanations etc? or is this striking me as pointless - which it is - only because I'm thinking of disambiguation? I've just noticed a string of newly-created ones - e.g., Adiloğlu, Akagündüz, Ahmaoja, Ahokainen, Ahosilta, Akkanen, and others - and was about to send them to AfD, but thought I should seek a less confrontational second opinion here first. Jsmith1000 (talk) 20:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've answered my own question: according to WP:APONOTE, a single instance of a surname isn't enough to justify a surname stub.Jsmith1000 (talk) 00:00, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure - WP:APONOTE seems to say that a list of name-holders wouldn't be notable with less than two entries, but also "A properly sourced article about a name may still be notable without a list.". I'd think that a surname may be notable (very widespread, interesting origins) but not have any notable name-holders at all. These unsourced stubs have a single sentence "X is a Y-language surname", though with no indication of a source for that one fact, the language of the surname - whether it's just "sounds right and is a member of the Turkish/Finnish/Swedish sports team", or anything better. The question is whether the name is notable and merits an article. If not, then a redirect to the single name-holder would be appropriate (or deletion for any more like Adiloğlu which have no name-holders). Ah, I see you've already PRODded that one. Still, I'll leave this comment here anyway. PamD 07:42, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's helpful - I like the redirect option better, as it leaves a place for a resurrected article in case more information, or more name-bearers, appear later. I suppose that in a way if any surname is notable they all are, but I don't think a content-free stub acting in effect as an index entry for every surname in the world is a good idea. (Fuller articles on surnames from "difficult" languages like Turkish would be very worthwhile, however). Anyway, thanks for the second opinion.Jsmith1000 (talk) 09:58, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, there is an RM/RfC here that may be of interest to this project. --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 01:46, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If there's anyone familiar with Chinese language and Chinese family names, please take a look at Feng. That disambiguation page lists four different entries for various surnames/family names. One of the entries, Feng (family name), has been redirected to Feng (surname), but the original version of that page does not appear to have been merged. Many of the entries are relatively recent creations by Bmotbmot (talk · contribs). It appears there may be multiple characters that can be transliterated as Feng -- should these all be treated on a single page or is there basis for having multiple pages? And it seems the current article titles are not very meaningfully distinguished from each other. older ≠ wiser 16:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The same user also made many cut and paste moves in addition to creating articles, like moving Lí (黎)toLi (family name) which contains a disambiguation as good as none. I myself think that there certainly is a basis for separate pages, since they don't actually sound the same (different tones) and have widely different origins, not to mention the distribution and demographics involved. I suggest asking WikiProject China as well for this. _dk (talk) 17:04, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See Talk:Lì (chinese surname) for a mess regarding various Lee/Li surnames. -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 04:11, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I discovered that Gerard redirected to Gerhard and requested the former to be deleted, which it has. I just want to get get second opinions about moving the current Gerhard to Gerard (and splitting off Gerhard/Gerhardt), seeing as there is quite a tangle of redirects to fix and other work that I would have to do. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:22, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've just entered a request on Talk:Srđan:

Can someone supply the Arabic written form(s) of the name, as has been done for all the other non-Roman scripts?

I'm not qualified for it, but to me (I'm a linguist) it's a conspicuous gap, especially at the top of the list (languages in alphabetical order). ISTM that supplying forms of names in other scripts, including (especially?) those that only have transliterations, is a type of task that could be reasonably included in this project's routine. --Thnidu (talk) 17:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See talk:Qin (surname) for two colliding surnames and WP:PDAB issues -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 07:43, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]