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There is a draft for the person in question (Janne Lehtonen).

Janne has served 10+ years in the finnish Navy's special operation forces. He was notably one of the first-ever operator in the unit, along side his fellow collegues of the reality TV programme Erikoisjoukot.

He is also a firefighter, paramedic and serial entrepreneur. I hope someone views this draft of notable Finnish person!

82.197.27.70 (talk) 07:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've also contributed to the draft, by adding more specific information and reformated the text a bit. I think that he's notable enough, as he's literally the first SOF soldier of his country! 2001:999:705:5E4:4811:BCBE:7564:29B7 (talk) 19:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As the Draft was being declined, I added more specific information from his SOF times, including where he worked, and what he has acchieved. I'd say that his career as a soldier plays more important role in the Wiki... 2001:999:705:5E4:1405:1186:D4C:AF17 (talk) 08:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Enough more info added, ready for another check! 2001:999:705:5E4:68B9:5498:CDE0:8412 (talk) 15:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Huge updating has been made to the draft article, according to his notability as an special forces operator, but with an upcoming book as well. All the information is referenced well enough as well!

Could somebody review it plz?

2001:999:58C:BDA5:D56D:36F5:D00F:A1EB (talk) 13:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, more specific information have been added for now, to make him more notable. For example, he's more specific a Sergeant of the Navy, and that he currently writes a book with WSOY, making him an author as well. There are also a bunch of references to check the information from! 85.76.86.8 (talk) 08:33, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added info that he has post-traumatic stress disorder, PTSD. 2001:999:58C:BDA5:A58D:936B:9E7C:FFED (talk) 10:19, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't ordinarily deal with biographies and people-list articles, so I thought I'd ask the good folks at WP:BIOGRAPHY for their experience on how similar articles are treated, or maybe even get some links to other similar articles so I can see how those present such categorization.

My question is how to deal with articles that have lists of people that have been separated out by statuses such as current/former/deceased. Of course trying to find a particular person in such an article means you have to scroll through 3 lists to find the one you're looking for, but is it even necessary to split people out? Who is checking to see if someone has died (so as to move the entry to the other section)?

In my case, I'm working on Scientology officials. Earlier it was a list-article, separated by the three sections current/deceased/former (example of old list-only version). It has since been made into a regular article by the addition of non-list content, and renamed to remove the "List of" part of the title, but retains the original list of people (plus some added since then). I had thought of removing the subcategories current/deceased/former and making just one alphabetical list, so I checked each entry to make sure there was sufficient information in each paragraph where a reader could easily see if the person was deceased or a former official (if we even know that information). We almost never know when someone dies or has left the employ, so I think the subsections should be removed.

Are there other similar articles in Wikipedia? Have there been other discussions about this sort of situation that I could read? Any insight would be appreciated.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 15:54, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! As part of my work for Beutler Ink, I've posted Draft:Will Johnson (executive) for review at AfC and thought that editors here might be interested in having a look and leaving feedback. Happy to answer any questions. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 21:55, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, WikiProject Biography members,

I recently created a draft article about Michelle Valberg, a renowned Canadian nature and wildlife photographer known for her extensive work, especially in the Arctic regions. This article aims to highlight her career, contributions to photography, and her efforts in environmental and philanthropic activities.

As I prepare to move this draft towards a formal review, I am seeking your expertise to ensure that the article meets Wikipedia's standards for accuracy and neutrality and that it adequately covers her significant contributions to the field of photography.

I would greatly appreciate any feedback, suggestions, or edits you could provide to help enhance this article. Here is the link to the draft: Draft:Michelle Valberg

Thank you for your time and assistance Bojamon (talk) 16:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Allan Chappelow#Requested move 7 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 05:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tahir Pasha (governor)#Requested move 9 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 05:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Michael Messineo#Requested move 7 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 18:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Physics#Biographical importance ratings? and now realize that maybe I should have gone here, instead. Some biographical subject matter expertise is needed, since I don't understand how its supposed to work. Here's the post I put up there:

The physics project template counts the number of articles ranked by importance, and quality. Here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Quality Control There are currently 700+ articles with unassesed priority (marked "???"). Clicking through, almost all of these are biographies. I suspect that no one particularly wants to tackle this, because of the unpleasantness of tagging someone's biography as "unimportant". That, plus the true difficulty of actually assigning a relative ranking -- you have to be very cross-disciplinary to be able to assess such comparisons. And that's just within physics, never mind something like "my biologist is more important than your physicist" or god help us, "our TV anchor is more notable than your physicist". Thus, I'm wondering if perhaps there might be better to avoid this issue entirely? I'm thinking of allowing the template to have an "importance=biographical" value. Or maybe there is some better way to do this? FWIW, Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics has exactly this same issue with unrated articles. (I'll cross-post there shortly.)

Thanks 67.198.37.16 (talk) 03:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I would like to seek editor input on this edit request on the Dragan Šolak (businessman) article and its Money laundering investigations section.

In a discussion with another editor on the Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard I outline how the name of the section is misleading, as it could imply Šolak was investigated for money laundering, which he was not. This section is not about Dragan Šolak directly but rather a media company owned by him and its reporting into Slovenian government misconduct. AlexforUnited (talk) 06:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Technology#Pictures of eponyms of graphics processor microarchitectures for a discussion on whether Nvidia graphics microarchitecture articles should have pictures of the people they are named after. —DIYeditor (talk) 06:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi editors, I posted a request to add some additional information about Eric Hippeau's company Lerer Hippeau on his Talk page. Would anyone here be willing to take a look and see if this can be added? Because of my COI I can't make those changes myself BINK Robin (talk) 16:37, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've opened a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Veganism and Vegetarianism#Translating fi:Benjamin Pitkänen. Some extra eyes would be welcome. Nemo 10:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:House of Bjelbo#Requested move 27 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion currently ongoing at Talk:Snow Patrol regarding a controversial change in the band's nationality, which may be of interest to project members. The discussion is titled Change Snow Patrol from Scottish Rock Band to Northern Irish Rock Band. Thanks. HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have an open edit request on the article about Sam Yagan at Talk:Sam_Yagan#Request_to_update_Excelerate_Labs_and_IAC_information. This is to add information about some of Yagan's previous companies. I made this request on behalf of Yagan through my work at Corazon Capital. Thank you for considering. CBCorazon (talk) 16:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I came across archival material written by the subject of the Renée Vivien article. I want to include in the article, but am unsure whether to put it under another subsection under Works or in the Further reading section. I am curious how others have handled this & what examples exist.

Here is the citation I plan to use.

• Vivien, Renée. "3 carnets [3 notebooks]" (b. 1901) [PDF]. Gallica, ID: NAF 26579-26581. Paris: Département des Manuscrits, Bibliothèque nationale de France.

Peaceray (talk) 15:31, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Filip Turek (racing driver)#Requested move 9 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 02:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey folks, since writing BuZ blurr I've made some edits to it and am wondering what else could be improved in order to make it a B-class or Good Article.

One thing I know is missing is more media, though it's near impossible to find copyright-free material of his. Another thing I can expand on a little is his early life. Anything else I am missing? Sonovawolf (talk) 04:18, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a content dispute on Talk:Orlando Figes that could use the input of people who know BLP policy! The Orlando Figes#Amazon reviews controversy of 2010 is the subject, with one side preferring to excise it or at least minimise its coverage, and the other thinking that it is relevant content requiring full coverage. There are quite a few policy-based claims that have been made including some that regular BLP-ers might have more insight on like Wikipedia:Who is a low-profile individual.

For extra fun, the subject of the article (Orlando Figes) is also participating! So you can wiki-meet a famous academic if you come along. Samuelshraga (talk) 05:13, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]