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1 Did Arthur run or not  
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2 States are wrong  
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3 Arthur and the Republican Convention of 1884  
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4 Electoral College votes cast for Belva Ann Lockwood?  
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5 More information on the Belva Ann Lockwood vote  
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6 Popular vote numbers all disagree with the source cited.  





7 Confusion With Map  
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8 New York  
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Talk:1884 United States presidential election




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Did Arthur run or not

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This article said that Arthur did not seek the Republican nomination, yet in his own article it said that he did run but lost to Blaine. So which is it? Also this article said that he would have won the nomination had he ran. Really, the impression I got was that Arthur did not have sufficient support to win the nomination.--The Shadow Treasurer 04:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

States are wrong

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In 1884 there were 38 states, the split was 20 to 18[1]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Celtic hackr (talkcontribs) 03:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

Arthur and the Republican Convention of 1884

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Results of the first ballot, Republican National Convention: Blaine 334.5; Arthur 278; Edmunds 93; others 114.5.

Fourth ballot: Blaine 541; Arthur 207; Edmunds 41; scattering 31.

See http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=57960

Chronicler3 03:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Electoral College votes cast for Belva Ann Lockwood?

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I'd posted this query here: Talk:Faithless_elector#Faithless_electors_in_1884?. In short, Lockwood evidently claimed that Indiana's electoral college votes were cast for her. Esquizombi 03:05, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More information on the Belva Ann Lockwood vote

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It is not clear how many votes Lockwood received. She claimed to have received 4,149 votes, which appears to be the total nationwide scattering vote.

However, that number has some complications. In Ohio, the state board of canvassers certified 369 scattering votes, some of which were for Lockwood but not all. The Lockwood vote was not specified. Ohio State Journal, 11/17/1884.

The Raleigh [NC] News reported that Lockwood received two votes in Texas, but the official vote does not mention them.

The Fayetteville [NC] Observer reported on 11/20/1884 that Lockwood received 50 votes in New York State. The New York Times in different stories accounts for two of these votes (11/7/1884, 11/13/1884).

Miscellaneous votes for Lockwood were mentioned in the New York Times - but not officially recorded - as three in Pennsylvania (NYT 11/23/1884), one in West Virginia (NYT 11/25/1884), and one in Illinois (11/20/1884).

What all this adds up to is that the Lockwood vote cannot easily reach the 4,149 total often reported. If someone were able to track down all scattering votes, it seems likely that Lockwood received around 200.

Although it is reported that the Indiana Electors gave their state's electoral vote to Lockwood, I have not been able to find any evidence this took place. I have looked in newspaper accounts, and none mention such an event. Also, when the joint session of Congress assembled to count the votes, the only thing mentioned as out of the ordinary was that the certificate of vote from Maryland was mis-read. Chronicler3 01:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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This content cites Dave Leip's Atlas as the source for the popular vote, but none of the popular vote numbers agree with Dave Liep's Atlas. "Source (Popular Vote): Leip, David. 1884 Presidential Election Results. Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections (July 27, 2005)."

Could someone either explain the discrepancy or make a correction?

Candidate Wikipedia David Leip
Grover Cleveland 4,874,621 4,914,482
James G. Blaine 4,848,936 4,856,903
Benjamin Franklin Butler 175,096 150,890
John St. John 147,482 134,294
Other 3,619 3,576

Confusion With Map

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On the map of the counties and what presidential candidate they voted for, Keweenaw County, Michigan is raising me some confusion. The island of the county shows it voting for Greenback Party candidate Benjamin Butler while the mainland part of the county appears to be voting for Republican Party candidate James G. Blaine.

To add to the confusion, the map on the 1884 United States presidential election in Michigan article shows all of the county voting for Blaine. Can someone please explain this error to me? --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 23:50, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New York

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The article states "had he lost new York he would have lost the election" but he won by 37 electoral votes and NY had 36, so that's not true. 198.105.11.1 (talk) 13:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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