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Talk:1973 Northern Ireland border poll

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Can someone confirm the date of the referendum, please ?

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When did this referendum take place ? on 1973 March 8 ? BBC says 1973 March 9. Can someone confirm the date, please ? The March 9 wikipage has no mention. hanks. -- PFHLai 23:47, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nicholas Whyte's site goes for March 8th. I suspect March 9th actually refers to the declaration of the result rather than polling - I somehow doubt all the votes were counted by midnight! Timrollpickering 23:55, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

With 1973 technology ? Yeah, I agree. Thanks ! -- PFHLai 20:42, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even in the 21st century Northern Ireland is not known for counting speedily. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:50, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've redirected "Border Poll" to this page.--Vintagekits 17:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quote "One letter to the editor of The Times from an English resident called for a referendum to be called in the rest of the UK where the question to be asked would be: "Do you think that Northern Ireland should be forced to withdraw from the United Kingdom?", the letter-writer feeling the answer would be yes.[5]"

If that rest-of-UK referendum had happened, the majority in NI would not have wanted to join the Republic. As the Republic and the UK had just joined the EEC, then presumably NI would have become the 10th member state? It seems very hypothetical, given that there was no political desire to hold such a rest-of-UK referendum.86.42.196.234 (talk) 09:54, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why so less votes in Proposal 2?--Kaiyr (talk) 08:13, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nationalists boycotted the poll.71.244.167.164 (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Are there plan make again Northern Ireland sovereignty referendum?--Kaiyr (talk) 08:28, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

test for a border poll in the Good Friday Agreement: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36621822 – Kaihsu (talk) 17:41, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like an odd name, why isnt it Irish unity referendum, 1973 or something to that effect? Apollo The Logician (talk) 15:31, 7 December 2016 (UTC) Apollo The Logician (talk) 15:31, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've renamed it as Northern Ireland border poll 1973 under WP:COMMON, which is the name it was called at the time and is most commonly described in Northern Ireland literature, e.g.

• Commission on the Conduct of Referendums, p. 20
• CAIN
• Ark elections.

It was also officially the 'Border Poll', provided for as it was by the Northern Ireland (Border Poll) Act 1972.

• Some other sources:

• Colin Turpin and Adam Tomkins, British Government and the Constitution: Text and Materials (Cambridge University Press, 2007), p. 232.
• Michael Cunningham, British Government Policy in Northern Ireland, 1969-2000 (Manchester University Press, 2001), p. 13.
• Vernon Bogdanor, The People and the Party System: The Referendum and Electoral Reform in British Politics (Cambridge University Press, 1981), pp. 63-64.
• Derek Birrell, Direct Rule and the Governance of Northern Ireland (Manchester University Press, 2009), p. 7

Mooretwin (talk) 23:35, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This article is currently included within Category:Constitutional referendums in Northern Ireland. Is this appropriate? And what makes such inclusion appropriate? AusLondonder (talk) 21:38, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There probably is an error in the calculations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andf9 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've read 1973 in Northern Ireland and 1972 in Northern Ireland and while it's clear The Troubles was harrowing Northern Ireland, it's not clear to me how this leads to a border poll. Was it a consequence of the 1972 ceasefires? 2A00:23C7:5D90:2100:D056:1F98:F842:DB55 (talk) 21:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that we should really have a section about this. Here is a note to remind myself. Matt's talk 23:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Under the Good Friday Agreement, a poll of NI must be held if the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland determines that it's likely that a majority of the residents want Irish Unification. This prospective vote has come to be referred to as a "border poll". (For example this is a good solid source: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/constitution-unit/research/elections-and-referendums/working-group-unification-referendums-island-ireland) Since Border Poll currently redirects here, it seems appropriate to add a short section explaining this other meaning of Border Poll, with reference to the Good Friday Agreement. Jaywilson (talk) 18:29, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Border poll. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. buidhe 02:10, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Border Poll. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 03:20, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]